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My Thoughts on Recent Events


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[Forewarning: I'm not the best at internet rants. This could see some minor or major edits in the future.]

 

Normally I'm not one to drag out any argument or disagreement longer than it possibly needs to be, and I hope that this post doesn't fan the flames, so to speak. Rather, I have an opinion on recent events and a solution to the problem that was apparently brought to light.

 

There was a rather controversial topic that was posted a few days ago and, after a degeneration of productivity, locked by staff. No, I'm not bringing up any personal grievances that were addressed in that topic. Rather, I'm calling attention to one particular part of the subject that was given special attention: the matter of the "livelihood" of this website and, among other things, a lack of attention given to new members.

 

Looking back over it, I see one point being argued repeatedly: new members are not being treated with the same respect given to "senior" members. I can totally see where this argument comes from: often when I post in a Welcome Mat I am followed by Muffin-, Parasprite-, and similar-ranked forum members as opposed to older members. I just checked on my Welcome Mat topic, my first post on this forum. I didn't know anybody, and nobody knew me. (Using current ranks), an administrator, a Muffin, a Butterfly, and a Bird all commented on my post. These were high-ranking members, and they were taking an interest in me. And these weren't just "Hey, enjoy the site" comments. The majority pertained to what I had said in my initial post. I remember how nervous I was with that first post -- what if I messed up? What if I said something wrong? This place seemed really awesome, and the last thing I wanted to do was make a social pariah out of myself before I even officially conversed with anyone.

 

But you know what happened? Those replies made me feel welcome. They made me feel like I could be a part of a community, of something bigger than myself. I felt like I could speak my mind and I wouldn't be laughed at or insulted or flat-out ignored. In short, those first few replies were the reason I stuck around in the first place.

 

What would have happened if those replies were any different, or had never existed in the first place? Well, I can take an educated guess: I would have lost interest in the site within a few days due to being too nervous of making a fool of myself to post. I never would have continued writing, and I wouldn't have met some of my best friends. My life would be definitely different -- and definitely worse -- than what it is now.

 

Think back to your Welcome Mat topic, if you posted one. Who commented on it? Did that have any influence on you sticking around this site? But, of course, the Welcome Mat is not the only "make-or-break" point for whether or not a new member will stick around. They need to be included in all aspects of the site, and that means the discrimination of lower-ranked members needs to come to an end. And while "discrimination" may seem a strong term, but to me it seems fitting. As was brought up in the above-linked topic, a status update or an art post created by a newer and/or relatively low-ranked member is often ignored, while higher-ranked and aged members can expect many replies and views. That isn't to be unexpected; we know how to interact with these people because we've seen them around enough.

 

This needs to change, and for one important reason: it is the right thing to do.

 

I'm not saying we need to hightail it over to the Welcome Mat, and I'm not saying that we need to start ignoring the forum members we've come to know and love. All I'm asking is that, when you see a new member post a status, remember that it takes only ten seconds to make a reply. It doesn't need to be anything fancy -- just let that user know that they are recognized in the community, that they aren't just another statistic or avatar that occasionally appears on the front page.

 


 

In a similar vein, an issue involving the arts around the site was brought up. Many submissions get a quick one sentence reply similar to "Wow this is good, you're so good at drawing." That helps no one, especially the artist. Be a responsible forumgoer and formulate your true opinion. I've told users before that their art could use work (in a friendly manner, of course) and suggested points of improvement. You know what happened? The user was gracious for my true opinion and resolved to try again. Whether they used my advice or not is anyone's guess, but I made some new friends and helped a fellow member. That goes a lot farther than an empty compliment.

 

Oh, and don't like how people are critiquing? Then go out and critique the art yourself. And before someone calls me a hypocrite, yes, I have taken my own advice. I just don't dip into the arts section as often as I really should.

 


 

As a closing piece, I want to say this to everyone who was in the above linked thread: keep all the flaming and hating that went on there out of here. I'm posting this to restate my concerns and opinions and nothing more. Comments that do not degrade other members or their opinions are more than welcome.

 

Thank you for reading through this poorly formed rant.

 

-Kolth

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Hmmm...I remember my first day. I hadn't gotten a single reply in the first 10 or 15 minutes. I was so embarrassed :blush:

 

Then, boom, outta nowhere, I get totally bullrushed :D 

 

Made me feel so, so happy... :D 

 

Now, man, this site seems to be so tense, you know, dude?

 

I was involved in one of the reasons it has gotten like this, I'll admit. :blush:

 

There's been a lot of incidents like that, though...

 

I've been trying to do my best, though, to redeem myself for it :D I've been pretty active on the Welcoming Plaza as of late...I think I've gotten 4 or 5 posts in there yesterday and today (Hey, HUGE improvement.)

 

Anyway...you're completely right about all of this. I'll back you up as much as I can on this subject :D

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I remember when i use to try to post enough in welcome plazza that i'd have posts in all the topics on the first page of recent welcome topics ;p.

 

I only got there like once.. but still.

 

I need to do that again.

 

Thanks for the inspiration, gonna have to try and use that to fuel me rushing the newbies some more in the welcome plazza :D.

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Good to see that people are taking some of this to heart.

 

But remember, it doesn't stop at the Welcome Mat: newcomers become oldcomers because they feel welcome everywhere!

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I got two replies on my Welcome topic, and my first post outside of it was fairly well received (with three brohoofs if I recall).

 

...But even with that, I initially found the forums rather intimidating. It was probably just my social anxiety, but it took me about two months of being here before I started making any friends at all.

 

If possible I would like to prevent newbies from feeling like I did, so count me in.

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Well, I'd like to disagree with your observation...but it's hard to disagree with the truth.

 

I was quite active in the Welcoming Plaza once (too bad I barely find the time to post there again, but maybe I'll find the time again) and from what I've seen I can confirm what you atr saying.

There were those few "older" members who were pretty active there, but mostly Muffins and Cupcakes. Sometimes a Mod or Admin and not all top many Butterflies or "higher ranks".

Furthermore I've noticed that there've been threads that get overwhelmed by replies while others get two at a maximum. I don't want to tell anyone who they should welcome or not, but if you see two threads in the Welcoming Plaza, one with three, the other one with fourteen replies, do the new members a favor and post in the former.

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I agree with everything. Though one of the biggest disappointments is this rather large hostilely or "flame" spike happening in a lot of other threads. Now I know everyone has different opinions and likes talking about them, but it is ignorant and rude to call people out and clam how they are a bad person for having a different opinion. I don't see this as eye candy for by-passers.

As for new members, I guess I too am guilty for ignoring the welcome mat. I shall go posting there more often.

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It's great to see that people are trying to support the community! Please remember, however, that this is more than a Welcome Mat issue. Don't forget that newcomers need to feel welcome EVERYwhere on the site! :)

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I have the third most replies to my Welcome thread.

GOML

 

ohwaitrwebeingsrs

 

Well, I would like to agree with your point, but I never post in those things unless I'm in the mood because I'm really bad at fake sentiment for people I will likely never talk to.

2harsh4u

But since you made me feel guilty and this is clearly all about me all the time then I will try to post in some.

Try.

>trrry

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I have the third most replies to my Welcome thread.

GOML

 

ohwaitrwebeingsrs

 

Well, I would like to agree with your point, but I never post in those things unless I'm in the mood because I'm really bad at fake sentiment for people I will likely never talk to.

2harsh4u

But since you made me feel guilty and this is clearly all about me all the time then I will try to post in some.

Try.

>trrry

 

Yeah, we definitely can't post super-happy all the time everywhere. Just a friendly extension now and again never hurts. :3

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Yeah, we definitely can't post super-happy all the time everywhere. Just a friendly extension now and again never hurts. :3

If I can find someone with an interesting welcome I promise I will post.

ON MY HONOURRR

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