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  G1 vs G5 Posey

  North Star · Started 17 hours ago

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  hey guys i have something to show you

  TwilightSparkleSunny · Started Wednesday at 03:39 AM

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  Frozen II (Spoilers)

  Props Valroa · Started Wednesday at 03:26 AM

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  Didn't this community have a minecraft server? What happened

  NetherFalcon · Started Tuesday at 11:46 PM

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  "Different" entries in a series.

  CastletonSnob · Started Tuesday at 11:16 PM

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  A possible way to fix G5

  By Axiom Crash · 1 minute ago

  Okay, a few things are jumping out at me right away. Let me just say: Not trying to offend. I may be blunt or insensitive, but it's not intended to be violent, just direct and to the point. I don't think what you've written is bad, necessarily, just overtly risky. I'm mostly posting this, by the way, because I saw WickedGames's post's and wanted to try to respond to the question of "why would it be controversial and/or damaging to the brand". But I guess I'm offering my thoughts about everything to. Like, first thing, "new elements of harmony" immediately strikes me as worrisome, for a few reasons. The first is that MLP as a franchise has clearly reinvented itself at least once. The connections to G4 are clearly there to try to rope in the massive fanbase they had from the prior incarnation of the franchise, but they've got a whole new art direction and have to appeal to a generation that isn't quite the same as the old one. They absolutely had to include cell phones to be relevant to today's kids, for example, and that creates a whole host of problems. Here's the thing, cell phones suck. Sure, having a conversation at a distance is great, but being called sucks! It's so much nicer to receive a letter, handwritten and sent by dragon fire than to have your boss yelling in your ear to get to work already. So why would ponies invent something they didn't need? That absolutely rules out a smooth rollover from one generation to the next, there absolutely had to be a reset, from a worldbuilding perspective. I think what the writers were asked to do was asinine, honestly: Totally reinvent the world to appeal to a new generation of kids and recreate that sense of wonder and exploration Then tie it back to a generation where all the exploration has already been done But without pissing off the older generation, who is already known to generate tons of controversy over perceived changes in the canon, because it's very easy to confuse the ironed-out fanon with the full-of-merchandisability-inflicted-continuity-holes canon. And if I were a writer, I would be pretty annoyed at having to cater to two audiences with totally incompatible priorities! So they picked one of those things over the other, and I think G5 is stronger for it. But that third bullet point is the real kicker here. We've got fans here that write about immortal Twilight mourning her friends, and Lauren Faust telling us Twilight won't outlive her friends ... but Celestia and Luna retired? Who's going to replace Twilight? How many attempts did it take Celestia to produce someone that could replace her? Does she really expect Twilight to produce a replacement faster than she did? OMG. Anyways, I'm sure I had a point, but I don't remember it anymore. *Shrugs* Eh! ...has the tree ever talked before? Legitimate question. Haven't finished G4, like I said.   Oh ... oh my goodness, umm... Imagine you're a kid, and suddenly, the characters from your parent's show intrude on yours, and start getting their muddy discordant hoofprints all over everything. The problem with this is that it caters *too much* to older fans over the identity of the new generation. Leaving aside that not everyone feels the same way about the mane six becoming alicorns, and Lauren Faust's insistence that alicornhood doesn't imply immortality, the bigger problem is that it's unlikely that fans of G4 would actually be attracted to getting into G5 by such an inclusion. I mean, if it works, great! But if it doesn't, it looks really, really disingenuous. People who like G4 and G5 are already watching, and those who don't like G5 are not likely to change their minds based on this inclusion. It's just kind of ... not great when you start thinking about how it would actually play out in real life. But I think it works in a multiverse sort of setting. A timeline where the mane six became alicorns is neat and functional, as that's kind of meant for 'what if' scenarios, but as long as we're dealing with a single timeline, that's just way too many pandora's boxes to be opening at the same time. I feel like shoehorning the new mane six into the elements of harmony is just kind of ... annoying in that it makes G5 beholden to the lore of G4 in a very rigid and inflexible way. I would much, much prefer something more creative, lore wise. To explain, we notice that in ancient times when the sisters wielded them against Discord (and each other, I think), the elements were simple gemstones, all uniform, so they've changed over time. There's no good reason they would remain the same from G4 to G5 and them having a new incarnation entirely is, I think, both appropriate and far more interesting. Hmm... Aside from that, what you've written does flow well, does seem to explain what you set out to explain (haven't watched enough to verify that myself, of course), and is probably still better than what we'll end up getting. I think the biggest issue with bringing a dozen characters being brought back is that none of them will get enough time to feel like more than a cameo, and if they do, then they're taking the spotlight away from the main characters of the show. While fanfiction can run on as long as we like, a show's runtime is a finite resource. Now I would absolutely love to see this, I would love to see what immortality does to the rest of the mane six and how their personalities have changed as they aged and gained wisdom. They would be entirely new characters, and I'd want to at least hear how their various ascensions went down and some of what they've been doing since the end of G4. And that, unfortunately, brings up the problem that the kids that haven't watched G4 won't have a clue about any of that background and won't benefit from it. Aaaand ... that is also time that could also be used on worldbuilding for a city of freaking alicorns. Ultimately, I think Hasbro would reject it because it takes way too many risks. This is an absolute firestorm of ragebait. There are many people I've seen say they stopped watching the show after Twilight ascended. The simple reality of the situation is that it's best to just let the past lie as much as Hasbro can manage and just reject the idea of honoring the past canon entirely. In my opinion, G5 shouldn't be beholden to G4, and I think making G5 an **AU** of G4 is far and away the best possible option. ... not sure this post is coherent. I wrote it over quite a few hours. But oh well.
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  Post A Quote From Your Day, Without Any Context.

  By Tropical Melody · 18 minutes ago

  "I admire the effort here to brush it off, but as every kid and parent knows, the only way she's getting that glitter off her pants and car, is by burning them both to the ground ..."  
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  Autumn Blaze Fan Club

  By Steve Piranha · 21 minutes ago

  Beauty from Mounts of Peril
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  Rainbow Dash Fan Club

  By Steve Piranha · 41 minutes ago

  Forceful snuggles incoming 
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  The recent purchases thread

  By Tropical Melody · 58 minutes ago

  I Googled that, and went down a rabbit hole ..... - Mine: Mac-in-a-sac poncho.  

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