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IMO I hate R34.

Yes it will always be there because there are always those weirdos who are into seeing it and making it. From their childhood characters to brother and sister r34.

 

Yes R34 makes and has some great artist. But in my opinion its wasting time. R34 is disgusting and basically ruins shows and randoms for me.

Hello, thank you for attempting to start a flame war.

 

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Well, look here.

http://www.fightthenewdrug.org/get-the-facts/

I didn't believe it until it actually started happening to me.

Most of those arguments apply to pretty much anything that can be potentially addictive. I am not saying porn/R34 can't be addictive but anything that brings pleasure can. It dosen't make those things inherently bad but it does mean that people should be careful that they don't indulge so much that it becomes an addiction.

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IMO I hate R34.

I dont usually like any but i especially

hate the really vulgar kind.

 

Yes it will always be there because there are always those weirdos who are into seeing it and making it. From their childhood characters to brother and sister r34.

 

Yes R34 makes and has some great artist. But in my opinion its wasting time. R34 is disgusting and basically ruins shows and fandoms for me.

Well, so much for "To each, their own" eh?

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I love Rule 34 and I'm not ashamed one bit about it. I've known about it before I even became a brony (it was actually the main tool in my sexual discovery). I can understand somewhat about the hate it get, but is it really a bad thing?

 

I for one don't think so. I think it's a really good sign for a fandom. To me it means that people enjoy the characters so much that they would want to see them in sexual situations. And that artists actually like the characters enough to draw said situations. A high content of Rule 34 means a lot of people really enjoy the characters of a particular media.

If there's R34 there's R34 but I for one do not care for it and unfortunately it makes it harder for people to respect a fandom when it's R34 "art", if I so call it that is so large that that's all people talk about. I don't care what other people enjoy until it affects me that's when I have a problem with it, I won't scorn or hate anyone whose into it I just don't like that its so prominent in our fandom that in most situations we can't have a nice conversation without some reference to it or someone popping into the conversation with a rather vulgar avatar thinking there funny or that "I like it so everyone else who doesn't want to see that or enjoys it is a hater". I don't like seeing it make communities become not so family friendly that are centered around a kids show that could have some kids as members who then are exposed to way more then they should be because of how prominent this MLP R34 thing is, I just find it sad. Kinda ranted there but like I said earlier I have no problem with it or those who partake in it until it affects me and once it does it is really a bad thing.

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Here's one of the most appealing images of Rainbow Dash I've found on the internet:

 

 

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What?  What'd you expect???  That's plenty smexy to me.

 

 

 

I'd call R34 a "necessary evil," but I generally don't view it as evil, wrong, or immoral.  And, for some of us, it totes is a good thing. xD  The internet is a veritable smorgasbord of naughty, and there's something for everybody.  I understand if you don't care for something in particular (and even I'm pretty darn picky), but it's silly (and potentially approaches hypocrisy) when MLP:FIM pornography attracts a disproportionate amount of hate.  At least it qualifies as erotic art; I've never once thought that of live action pornography lol.

 

If you're the type that says, "I don't care for porn," okay; that's a personal choice (just don't run around trying to nuke all porn on the internet - it's a lost cause anyhow lol).  If you're the type that says, "Certain porn but I don't care for that porn," okie dokie; we've all got preferences.  If you're the type that says, "Certain porn, yes, but THAT PORN IS AN ABOMINATION BECAUSE PONEHS!!1!"  ...Blah.  Stay in your own playground and leave others be. 

 

And here's a little trick I've learned when searching practically anything: make use of your peripheral vision!  I can more or less tell what's going on in this or that thumbnail without staring intently at it - much less clicking to enlarge the image.  And don't linger. xD  If something genuinely upsets you, don't go, "OOOOOoooooo this upsets me...  I am looking at it.  And it upsets me.  Still looking.  Lingering an unusual amount of time...  Perhaps I should just...  NO I KEEP LOOKING!"  I doubt anyone actually does that lol.  But, if you do, you may want to do some soul searching.  I.  Am.  Just.  Saying.

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"I like it so everyone else who doesn't want to see that or enjoys it is a hater".

There are douchebags who post R34 where it dosen't belong to troll people I won't deny that but I haven't heard very many serious arguments that boil down to "if you don't like it you are a hater". If R34 is not someones thing I can understand but what does bug me is when people get self righteous about it and try to guilt trip people who are into that and in the case of cloppers in particular to scapegoat them by claiming that they are "making us look bad" or some other arguments like that which is something I have never seen in any other fandom ever. I can understand not want to be associated with that stuff but unfortunetely that is all haters are trolls will ever see and they will find an excuse to hate no matter what anyway.

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I guess it would be a very bad time to bring up clop/gore fics huh

Yeeeeaaaah, I think that's a little beyond the scope of this thread. :-/ Let's not. If R34 involves things people consider friendly and amiable in a way that leads to R34, okie-dokie. If it leads to harm, I think it's a pretty bad idea. That's definitely underground. Edited by SkyDream
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The purpose of 34 as a rule is to prove that human sexual curiosities are pretty much endless. We keep inventing new things. They keep inventing new ways to make it a fetish.

 

Live and let live, as long as they're not spamming it to people who don't want to see it.

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Grey morality.  Not good or bad.  The bad is it hurts the fandoms image in the public eye as well as potentially disturbs kids (MLP is a kids show but they will find this kind of stuff)

However I believe in free expression.  Art is one way to share your vision, even if most people are grossed out by it.  I support free creative endeavor and while in an ideal world this stuff can exist and be completely invisible to people who don't want to / shouldn't see it that's just not the way the internet works.

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There are douchebags who post R34 where it dosen't belong to troll people I won't deny that but I haven't heard very many serious arguments that boil down to "if you don't like it you are a hater". If R34 is not someones thing I can understand but what does bug me is when people get self righteous about it and try to guilt trip people who are into that and in the case of cloppers in particular to scapegoat them by claiming that they are "making us look bad" or some other arguments like that which is something I have never seen in any other fandom ever. I can understand not want to be associated with that stuff but unfortunetely that is all haters are trolls will ever see and they will find an excuse to hate no matter what anyway.

I know that no matter what people will work to make the fandom or just people look bad and to hate them, If I appeared self righteous then sorry and I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone into not enjoying it, I just want those who try and bring it where it doesn't belong to well not bring it there, and I have seen quite a few situations where someone with a vulgar avatar pops on and gets into a conversation and someone mentions that their profile pic is a bit inappropriate for the setting they go off on them and attack them for "not letting them enjoy what they enjoy" not that this happens all the time and that everyone who enjoys that will do it.

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I promised myself when I joined this fandom I wouldnt get into the whole R34 thing. I mean, I look at it, but I dont get, you know... It doesnt do anything for me. However, Im fine with other R34 things. So I guess R34 is a good and a bad thing. Good, because some people like to see their favorite shows and whatnot getting it on, and bad because some people take it too far, IE making it so that most people know the fandom from the R34 produced. 

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R34. Will always exist it will keep makeing grear art which leads to commissions being made and it is good fun if it is not brothering you leave it alone.

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This thread asks the question as if any of us have a say in the matter. R34 is a fact of humanity, and by its very nature it will happen whether we want it to or not, so we should just get used to it and get good at avoiding it.

 

On the flipside, bronies really shouldn't be ashamed because every fandom has r34 floating around. You think every Star Trek fan enjoys slashfics starring Kirk and Spock?

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On the flipside, bronies really shouldn't be ashamed because every fandom has r34 floating around. You think every Star Trek fan enjoys slashfics starring Kirk and Spock?

 

I had assumed so

Good point

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I'd have to say no, it's not a good thing. Personally, I'm quite bothered by the over-sexualization that society is rife with and how lightly people treat sex.

 

Over-sexualization? I'm genuinely wondering why you say that and what you mean by "how lightly people treat sex". And what's so bad about Rule 34? What has it done to you?

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It's whatever. It's a good thing if you like it, but really, it's something that isn't harmful whether you like it or not.

 

First off, allow me to begin by saying no one is making you look at it. If they are, which, they're not, they suck. Also, don't throw that "kids can see it" nonsense out on me, because if they're not old enough to handle porn, they're not old enough to be on the internet unsupervised, because there's SO much more stuff out there that makes R34 look like child's play. Also, if it's visible on google images, just flag it. No reason to get all upset over it when you can make things good for both sides by just flagging it and moving on with it.

Really, there isn't a good excuse for wanting it gone. No one is making you like it, no one is making you look at it, so just ignore it if you dislike it. That simple :confused: Why people continue to throw fits about it when they can just not acknowledge its existence if they don't like it is just beyond me.

 

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But porn has been around for...hmmm...sh*t, even during the Victorain time periods, where "classyness" was all the rage, and sexuality was sunned.

 

http://www.cracked.com/article_19575_5-ridiculous-sex-myths-from-history-you-probably-believe.html

 

Go to number 5.

I'll just give you a snippet:

 

"It's true that Victorians weren't exactly into halter tops and assless pants. In public, that is. In private, they made up for it by producing extraordinary amounts of porn. And not just any porn, but the type of porn that would make the most seasoned Internet deviant blush and cover their table legs. We're talking incest, rape, pedophilia, orgies, BDSM ... and that's the normal stuff."

 

Basically, friend...porn has been around for, like, for ever.

We don't need Carl's Jr ads telling us so.

his problem isn't just about the porn its about how our society has made Sex such a string-less meaningless thing, that people do just because. and just saying the article is titled Sex MYTHS that you probably believe I'm not saying it isn't true just that the title of the article doesn't exactly help you.

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he reason i call them weirdos is because people who do like the vulgar stuff that makes me very uncomfortable post it non stop around my group and around me which creepys me out sorry but thats the way it is. I get very uncomfortable around people who post vulgar R34 where it shouldnt be. I dont mind subtle R34. And again i dont care who likes it why they like it. Its whatever you are into.

 

Who the heck are you hanging around? Maybe stop being around those people?  :huh:

 

I can totally understand if you do not like R34 and if it makes you unconfortable, but that doesn't give you the right to shame anyone who does enjoy these things.

 

Please people.

Don't argue with this cat anymore. I wouldn't want another thread like this closed down.

 

Before anyone takes offence = cat, as in the old Jazz slang

 

Yeah, sorry about that. 

his problem isn't just about the porn its about how our society has made Sex such a string-less meaningless thing, that people do just because. and just saying the article is titled Sex MYTHS that you probably believe I'm not saying it isn't true just that the title of the article doesn't exactly help you.

 

I think we should stay on topic. But do make a topic yourself about this if you want to discuss it. :)

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his problem isn't just about the porn its about how our society has made Sex such a string-less meaningless thing, that people do just because. and just saying the article is titled Sex MYTHS that you probably believe I'm not saying it isn't true just that the title of the article doesn't exactly help you.

The myth was that all Victorians were sexually repressed

The fact was that the very opposite was true

 

Get where this is going?

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I'm with you on that.

Sexuality today is flaunted needlessly and everywhere, bringing up the term "sex sells".

Hell, I probably believe it harder than anyone else here. I've been in countless arguem,nts here about the moral degradation of society.

 

So why do I think porn is okay?

 

Basically: "the overabundance of sex in today's modern culture" is not a good argument in why porn is bad.

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It's whatever. It's a good thing if you like it, but really, it's something that isn't harmful whether you like it or not.

 

First off, allow me to begin by saying no one is making you look at it. If they are, which, they're not, they suck. Also, don't throw that "kids can see it" nonsense out on me, because if they're not old enough to handle porn, they're not old enough to be on the internet unsupervised, because there's SO much more stuff out there that makes R34 look like child's play. Also, if it's visible on google images, just flag it. No reason to get all upset over it when you can make things good for both sides by just flagging it and moving on with it.

 

Really, there isn't a good excuse for wanting it gone. No one is making you like it, no one is making you look at it, so just ignore it if you dislike it. That simple :confused: Why people continue to throw fits about it when they can just not acknowledge its existence if they don't like it is just beyond me.

 

The only problem is that it's a tad difficult to pretend it doesn't exist when people keep bringing it up. The mere existence of this thread is evidence to that.

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