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Silly random question, but if Lauren Faust was back in the developing of FiM, what do you think she would change to the current show?

 

IMO, probably:

 

- No more alicorn Twilight (She had another plans with her, according to her Twitter)

- A way to end EG (Craig McCracken said she was devastated when EG was announced)

- Princess Cadance and Shining Armor wouldn't appear anymore (as I know she wanted to keep the show romanceless)

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She'd have made Rainbow Dash "Firefly" of the original gen 1 ponies, she likes Firefly and even describes RD as having her brain in her body.

 

She was even originally her colours (redish pink and purple) but they didn't have rights to some of the G1 ponies so she was recoloured and given the name of another pony they did have the name for, Rainbow Dash.

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Pretty much the three things you said. I would also feel devastated if I found out that a company turned my intriguing work into something clichéd.

 

I'm pretty fine with how the show is going, personally. Meghan McCarthy is a better show runner for MLP: FiM. But just because she makes a better show runner doesn't mean I hate Faust's ideas. In fact, I wish most of her ideas were on the show. :P

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There's no way Lauren would be able to get rid of Shining Armor and Princess Cadance.

Twilight and Cadance are sister in laws. So there's no logical way to get rid of her and Shining.

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Not only was she devastated when it was released, she was enraged when the images for the dolls were posted.

I know I would be if everything I had worked for had been turned into the very opposite, and the cliche girls programing that I had fought so hard to break the mold of.

 

 

but I'd think she'd leave shiny and Cadance if she were to just return right now. They are fairly well established characters, and if fixed up can actually be very interesting. She did want to keep the mane 6 out of any romance however, but she had no qualms with secondary or background characters being in a marriage (as shown by the cakes).

 

And it would mean the end of the waifu stealer. He would be relegated to the background pallet, never to return (as EqG would be either be dead, or Faust would refuse to work on it) to the forefront of FiM again. And we could all rest easy, knowing that Twilight will indeed stay single.

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Not only was she devastated when it was released, she was enraged when the images for the dolls were posted.

I know I would be if everything I had worked for had been turned into the very opposite, and the cliche girls programing that I had fought so hard to break the mold of.

 

 

but I'd think she'd leave shiny and Cadance if she were to just return right now. They are fairly well established characters, and if fixed up can actually be very interesting. She did want to keep the mane 6 out of any romance however, but she had no qualms with secondary or background characters being in a marriage (as shown by the cakes).

 

And it would mean the end of the waifu stealer. He would be relegated to the background pallet, never to return (as EqG would be either be dead, or Faust would refuse to work on it) to the forefront of FiM again. And we could all rest easy, knowing that Twilight will indeed stay single.

I agree with Lauren, the Equestria Girls dolls are HORRIBLE!

But, Equestria Girls itself was actually decent.

Silly random question, but if Lauren Faust was back in the developing of FiM, what do you think would she change to the current show?

 

IMO, probably:

 

- No more alicorn Twilight (She had another plans with her, according to her Twitter)

- A way to end EG (Craig McCracken said she was devastated when EG was announced)

- Princess Cadance and Shining Armor wouldn't appear anymore (as I know she wanted to keep the show romanceless)

How could Lauren Faust make Twilight a Unicorn again?

Because she would also have to explain why Twilight lost her wings.

Besides, I like the direction the show is going.

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I agree with Lauren, the Equestria Girls dolls are HORRIBLE!

But, Equestria Girls itself was actually decent.

How could Lauren Faust make Twilight a Unicorn again?

Because she would also have to explain why Twilight lost her wings.

Besides, I like the direction the show is going.

I found EqG to be the antithesis to everything Faust set out to do when she created FiM. She wanted to make entertainment for little girls that went beyond the tropes and cliches of highschool, cute bois, and social drama. She wanted to create a show to prove that girls entertainment could be enjoyed by all, and it could break the mold of the tropes that had long relegated the girls entertainment industry to a laugh and a toy isle at walmart. And EqG just proved to be everything Faust worked so hard for FiM not to be. It had the cliche settings, it had the plot that made no sense, it had the perfect boi with his sports car and leather jacket who saved the day just in time to win her heart. So in my opinion, it was a waste, as it was everything FiM tried not to be.

 

And Faust's original plan was to have Twilight replace Celestia anyway (as in direct replacement). So her being an alicorn would actually assist with that somewhat, even though it goes against her original plan to only have two alicorns. Shiny and Cadance could easily be salvaged, they just need some solid writing and screen time. She could have Twilight loose her wings in some form of "ultimate test" to see if she is really deserving, but that would be stretching it a little.

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There's a big difference between what Lauren would change (or would have changed, as the case may be) and what she could change. She was the creative director, but Hasbro always had and will have final say as to what makes it into MLP. From my understanding, the staff was even more constrained in the early days because Hasbro wanted to keep MLP largely marketed toward families and kids; only after Lauren departed did Hasbro loosen some things up while continuing to pursue an overall agenda (i.e., toy marketing).

 

Lauren is often very mum about details, mostly because she doesn't want to step on anyone's toes. She did state she had different plans for Twilight, but she has never said anything specific. I don't recall her explicitly ruling out all romance; rather, she wanted to avoid the trap of having a bunch of female characters swooning over boys. Cadance and Shining Armor were never portrayed in that manner, so I haven't the slightest clue as to whether or not their relationship violates Lauren's essential sense of handling romantic relationships.

 

Equestria Girls is completely a Hasbro sideshow. I don't mean that in the pejorative sense but instead that it did not emerge organically from the world Lauren built. Even if she were still the showrunner, she would have little if any authority to exercise over the Equestria Girls spin-offs.

 

In a hypothetical scenario wherein Lauren returned to her former position, she wouldn't be able to reverse past decision without effectively rebooting the entire series. That in and of itself is a near impossibility, unless Hasbro decides to change course and develop Generation 5.

 

Like Loki, I think we've come too far for anything else (other than what we have at present).

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Well there would be a few key changes, like no more Equestria Girls movies. (seriously, she got really angry when that movie was announced), also removing Twilight's wings since she wanted there to be 2 alicorns. Actually, season 5 seems to have a more adventurous tone which I think is what Lauren originally wanted the show to be.

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A lot of things would become different, I think.  We'd be seeing more G1 villains at the finales and premiers.  Tirek would return, after Lauren had enough time to salvage him, and be the Nightmare King Satan-Horse he once was -- Once she could get him past corporate.  She'd keep Twi's wings, but use her princesshood as an excuse to steer it in a more adventure-themed direction, with her becoming Equestria's prime defender.  (As if she and the rest weren't already.  Hah!)  We'd definitely be seeing more history and worldbuilding, and there would be a lot of character development for the other five girls as well, not just this Sentai-syndrome thing we have going on right now.

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Not to be sacrilegous, but Lauren's episodes were among the worst. The pilot was heinous as was the Ticket Master.

 

I expect I would have never gotten into the show if Lauren had kept up the lead like that. I hate Discord, but he was far better written than the atrocity known as Nightmare Moon. Also, the Ticket Master was just bleh. 

 

So forgive me if I find her returning not too great. I credit her with the idea, sure, but the actual writing was sub-par.

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There's a big difference between what Lauren would change (or would have changed, as the case may be) and what she could change. She was the creative director, but Hasbro always had and will have final say as to what makes it into MLP.

Noooo! Lauren is all powerful and her vision for MLP lines up perfectly with mine and everything would be amazing and perfect if she were still around.

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1: that assuming she COULD do anything to the show. she was a supervious and really only wrote the pilot. yes they were orignoally her character but as soon as the show went on the air they became DHX's property and they have the right to do whatever with them, or rather Hasbro i guess, not sure depends on who holds the rights.

2: to be honest she not the best writers..sure she make good character but she never really written much.

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Noooo! Lauren is all powerful and her vision for MLP lines up perfectly with mine and everything would be amazing and perfect if she were still around.

I can see the hint of sarcasm there.

 

This sounds like the fandom's equivalent of genwunners.

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I can see the hint of sarcasm there.

 

This sounds like the fandom's equivalent of genwunners.

Pretty much.

 

 

Alright everyone, Lauren Faust is an idiot. She was brought in to take an already existing property that was never hers to begin with and make it into a TV show to promote a line of toys. If she somehow believed that this was her baby and that she was going to be able to always get her way, then she was an idiot.

 

While she has been gone Meghan McCarthy has taken all the weird homework assignments Hasbro gave her:

 

"Okay we need a new princess and a big royal wedding."

"You know what would be awesome? Sparkly translucent ponies."

"Hey do you think you could completely change the setting to a high school with humans instead of ponies?"

"Alright we need the ponies to turn all rainbow color, because reasons."

"You know what was a good show? Jem. Hey could you maybe..."

 

...and has made them work. She has taken all this weird crap and incorporated them in ways that still preserve the themes of the show (I could write volumes about how she actually took the High School cliches in Equestria Girls and totally subverted them), and many of these resulting episodes and characters have become fan favorites.

 

Faust was weak. Long live McCarthy!

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How could Lauren Faust make Twilight a Unicorn again?

 

Come on! She's Lauren Faust! She's creative and genius enough to make a logic plot to something like that!

However, if you ask me I'd think in two possibilities:

 

1. Twilight decides to quit being a Princess for some friendship reason.

2. Ponyville is under attack and her only way to save it is sacrificing her wings, which wouldn't surprise me since the ponies already sacrificed the elements of harmony to save Ponyville.

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Come on! She's Lauren Faust! She's creative and genius enough to make a logic plot to something like that!

However, if you ask me I'd think in two possibilities:

 

1. Twilight decides to quit being a Princess for some friendship reason.

2. Ponyville is under attack and her only way to save it is sacrificing her wings, which wouldn't surprise me since the ponies already sacrificed the elements of harmony to save Ponyville.

Meh, you know, I like the way the show is currently going.

Besides, if no pony likes Equestria Girls, it can just be ignored. It's not, like. their focus or anything.

They're focus is the show itself.

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I like the show as it is just now. Looking at the difference between the first two seasons and 3 and 4 I don't think there is much. My only complaint would be that the show became a bit too musical over 3 and early 4, but it's not like I hate songs I enjoy a good song in the show just felt there was maybe a bit too many at that point. But I'd say subsequent seasons have maybe gotten a bit more mature, there's definitely some early episodes that feel very aimed towards kids whereas now I think for the most part it's a bit broader overall. Did anyone ever imagine they'd get an epic fight scene in season 1 like we did with the s4 finale?

 

As for Cadence/Shining Armour, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a relationship in a show, if anything it makes these two standout a bit because they have that, plus they're older than Twilight and her friends so it's only natural that they should be pursuing a relationship. That's part of the natural evolution of things. Won't I don't like is when relationships are put in a show for the sake of it. Example, recently I've watched through 5 seasons of Parks & Rec and the show has got to the point that most American Sitcoms do in that everyone needs to be paired with someone...no they don't! Relationships should happen if they come naturally to the characters and story, developing it further in a meaningful way, not for the sake of "all characters must have happy ending = get them in a relationship".

 

I don't think it would be a bad thing for one of the mane 6 to have a relationship, but certainly not all of them. I've said before but I think Fluttershy might benefit from a relationship. She's been really underwritten and underdeveloped, but I think it would be interesting to see her in a relationship, giving her someone to put all that love towards, seeing them appreciate her back, having to deal with when they have an argument and think it would be funny that they'd perhaps be such a sickly sweet couple that it would annoy the rest of the mane 6. Then if she got dumped it would teach her that not everything will always work out perfect and she needs to be more independent and outgoing at times.

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When Lauren was around, the jokes were better and characters had little quirks. Twilight Sparkle was better in Season 1 and 2 since she had more faults.

 

Spike was sexist in Season 1. Now he's a bumbling joke.

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Lauren is a creative and brought on a whole

new show to the masses and did one hell of

a job and  maybe she might have taken

the show in a different light if anything but

I like Cadence/Shining which did give MLP

a bit more depth if anything!

 

Spike is not a running joke but has had

some good moments in season 4 and

such.  Personally I think they made Pinkie Pie

a bit well, more shallow in this last season,,,,

 

We also saw some peer pressure  in which

our own so called best friends can put

on you when making a choice also a bit

in the show which is a real life thing!

 

Twilight as a Princess is not a fully

bad thing,  it just adds some twist and all,

it just see took a bit of a back seat in this

season it felt like to me till like

the last two eps and all to end the season

which felt rushed in some parts.

 

Season 4=We got more Discord.

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I doubt we'd really see any changes, though the episodes she wrote were among the weakest in the series, IMO. I loved the concept of Nightmare Moon, but the execution doesn't really stand up to repeated viewings; IMO.

 

I like her overall ideas, but I prefer where the show stands now.

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Well, she didn't want Cadence to be an Alicorn....I think that would make Canterlot Wedding better actually, because Cadence is the anomaly among royalty. And no I do not consider the children's chapter books as canon because seriously, have you read those? They are as girly and prissy as it gets without much coherence.

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