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Okay, to start this out, I actually have a good amount of piercings, as I am writing this, I count 5 including snake bites. I love them, and they are definitely something I'm passionate about. I want to get an industrial through my left ear, and even a genital piercing (yes, I know). I also am on my way to get my first tattoo hopefully next week, so I am totally excited for that. I love the piercing and tattoo community, because there is like... This unity where people look out for each other that you don't seem to find anywhere else. They all stick up for each other, and it's amazing.

 

What I don't like though, is how NON-progressive the rest of the world is these days. You can't not hire someone for being gay, but you can for having a tattoo. It's insane how many jobs won't even hire you for HAVING piercings and tattoos even if you offer to cover them up/take them out. Personally you shouldn't have to take them out or cover them. So long as they are not offensive, who cares? I hear the same excuse over and over "it doesn't look good on the corporation". Our lives are more or less defined by what the corporations feel is "professional" but professional all a matter of opinion. The corporations could see them as professional then they would be.

 

How many customers walk into Walmart saying "Boy, I love these savings! But I won't shop here again because that boy has a nose ring"? Not to mention even if people like that existed, giving into them is just pushing the world to continue its shallowness. Shouldn't we be pushing more towards telling people to just accept people as they are?

 

It just gets on my nerves because when I am at work, I do what I am paid to do, but so many jobs these days police what you do OUTSIDE of work too. Why are no more laws being put into place to stop these kinds of problems? Why can your boss fire you for what you post privately on Facebook? I understand it might be seen as "offensive" to the company, but people have been fired for having pictures of themselves at a party. Also I can't get my own piercings outside of work BECAUSE of work. It's just insane that in 2014 people are still so iffy about piercings and tattoos to the point where they won't hire people with them, and will fire people for having them. This really should be covered in the discrimination laws.

 

Not to mention to this day, I STILL get people who think I worship Satan because I have black hair and snake bites. How have we gotten so progressive in terms of acceptance of homosexuality, but not piercings and tattoos which have existed almost as long?

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Nope? To what might I ask? Tattoos and piercings or the mentality about them? More specific would be nice.

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I don't know exactly, but something about them makes me feel uneasy.

Well yeah, but don't you think it's unfair how people are expected to not do stuff outside of work because of work? What if someone wouldn't hire you because of what you wear outside of work? Is that anymore fair? That's the point I am making. I understand people will not like them, and I always accept that, but I just expect people to treat me like a person regardless of what I am wearing.

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Well yeah, but don't you think it's unfair how people are expected to not do stuff outside of work because of work? What if someone wouldn't hire you because of what you wear outside of work? Is that anymore fair? That's the point I am making. I understand people will not like them, and I always accept that, but I just expect people to treat me like a person regardless of what I am wearing.

I defiantly understand and agree. I just never could get myself to wear them.

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I defiantly understand and agree. I just never could get myself to wear them.

It's something you definitely have to be very dedicated to to do. Like when I got my snake bites, I had thought about it for almost a year before I did it. I decided that it was right for me, and that I would not regret getting them. I think they look great, and I am part of the community now. It's not something that you just get because it's "in right now". You have to want to be a part of the community or you're going to regret getting them. Like it's really refreshing to see that when people see I have piercings and they have them, there is like the aura of respect between us. You can chat with them about their body art and they are always excited to hear about more and tell you about it. I work with a guy who has a bunch of nice tattoos and piercings, and the moment I said I liked his tattoos, we were like instant friends.

 

People in that community are so understanding because they know what it's like to be judged for how you look. They build each other up, and that's something I love about it.

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Jeez... That's a surprisingly valid point. The problem arises in other areas too like, for example, in my school we have rule about being clean shaven (as if beards just magically make you look less smart or something). I suppose when it comes down to it; it's because you make the decision whether you have a piercing or not.

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Jeez... That's a surprisingly valid point. The problem arises in other areas too like, for example, in my school we have rule about being clean shaven (as if beards just magically make you look less smart or something). I suppose when it comes down to it; it's because you make the decision whether you have a piercing or not.

Wait I re-read that 4 times to make sure I read it right... School? The school requires you to be clean shaven...? Please tell me more.

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Wait I re-read that 4 times to make sure I read it right... School? The school requires you to be clean shaven...? Please tell me more.

 

No kidding. Most English schools require uniform but ours is just a little over the top; there's even a shaving kit on premises. Uniform is a serious matter over here.

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No kidding. Most English schools require uniform but ours is just a little over the top; there's even a shaving kit on premises. Uniform is a serious matter over here.

Is this a high school? And what country are you from?

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Addressing the gay thing, they do not choose to be gay, so you can't not hire people based on things out of their control like race, sex, sexuality, stuff like that.  You chose to get piercings and tattoos knowing full well that it would limit the types of jobs you can have.

 

It does limit their clientele with people like that working for them, mostly older people and really uptight against body mod people.  No matter how much you dislike them or think they're shallow, they're just dollar signs to the company.

 

Of course, a lot of jobs are ok with it.  I've had to take out piercings for certain school classes like band (BAND!!) and for my working hours at my nursing class.  I had to dye my hair just to be let into our nursing program.  You can cover up your piercings and tattoos, just don't make it obvious you have them, and there really shouldn't be a problem.  If you have them all over your face, that's a different story though.

 

Some jobs have good reason.  I really can't be having piercings at my nursing job.  If, by some freak accident, they fell out during a surgery, i could risk giving the patient an infection.

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Addressing the gay thing, they do not choose to be gay, so you can't not hire people based on things out of their control like race, sex, sexuality, stuff like that.  You chose to get piercings and tattoos knowing full well that it would limit the types of jobs you can have.

 

It does limit their clientele with people like that working for them, mostly older people and really uptight against body mod people.  No matter how much you dislike them or think they're shallow, they're just dollar signs to the company.

 

Of course, a lot of jobs are ok with it.  I've had to take out piercings for certain school classes like band (BAND!!) and for my working hours at my nursing class.  I had to dye my hair just to be let into our nursing program.  You can cover up your piercings and tattoos, just don't make it obvious you have them, and there really shouldn't be a problem.  If you have them all over your face, that's a different story though.

 

Some jobs have good reason.  I really can't be having piercings at my nursing job.  If, by some freak accident, they fell out during a surgery, i could risk giving the patient an infection.

I can understand and adhere to safety reasons, but like... Working at Walmart, you can't have snake bites working in the electronics department. There is no reason for that.

 

Also as much as I know it's about dollar signs, here's the thing: the more we try and PLEASE that older generation who is stuck in their ways, the more that mentality of other people should police how you look and act will continue. If companies just said "look, we are hiring whoever, if you don't like it, too bad, the world doesn't bend around you." people would be forced to accept people as people and not make stupid judgments based upon idiotic things.

 

Secondly... as much as I agree homosexuality isn't a choice, I don't think that's a good reasoning, that just because you can choose something, means it's okay not to hire someone for it. Some religions actually require you  get a piercing/tattoo, and yet we still can't not hire people for religious reasons, which is also a choice. You can not legally tell someone they can not wear a veil at work if their religion requires it, even if it violates the dress code. Why do we make exceptions for religion, which is also a choice?

 

I don't think "it's a choice" is a good enough reason to say that people can't wear certain things. If I am wearing the uniform, and my piercings are not covering up said uniform, it shouldn't matter. If you get a few customers who can't handle that people live differently than them, I am sure you are not going to cause the company to go bankrupt overnight.

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I can understand and adhere to safety reasons, but like... Working at Walmart, you can't have snake bites working in the electronics department. There is no reason for that.

 

Also as much as I know it's about dollar signs, here's the thing: the more we try and PLEASE that older generation who is stuck in their ways, the more that mentality of other people should police how you look and act will continue. If companies just said "look, we are hiring whoever, if you don't like it, too bad, the world doesn't bend around you." people would be forced to accept people as people and not make stupid judgments based upon idiotic things.

 

Secondly... as much as I agree homosexuality isn't a choice, I don't think that's a good reasoning, that just because you can choose something, means it's okay not to hire someone for it. Some religions actually require you  get a piercing/tattoo, and yet we still can't not hire people for religious reasons, which is also a choice. You can not legally tell someone they can not wear a veil at work if their religion requires it, even if it violates the dress code. Why do we make exceptions for religion, which is also a choice?

 

I don't think "it's a choice" is a good enough reason to say that people can't wear certain things. If I am wearing the uniform, and my piercings are not covering up said uniform, it shouldn't matter. If you get a few customers who can't handle that people live differently than them, I am sure you are not going to cause the company to go bankrupt overnight.

Think of it this way, instead of choosing to get a piercing, the employer sees it as you choosing to risk not getting that job and just not caring about their policies.

 

If you can't see that the employers just care about the money, and that's the reason they're trying to appease all of their customers, i really don't think i can explain it any better than that.

 

I've seen people look really nice for the interview, and after they got hired, they'd put all their piercings back in and they couldn't be fired for it as long as it doesn't explicitly state it in the dress code.

 

I've had plenty of jobs that let you wear whatever though.  Maybe you should try looking for work in other places.  The places you're talking about are really not going to change their minds.  Walmart is big enough that they can hire/not hire anyone they want and be as picky as they want.  

 

If you really feel strongly about it, perhaps try to get a lot of people together to start an organization that works towards having the work force accept body modification.  Don't protest or do anything hostile, but just spread awareness and why you think it should be allowed.  If you get enough of the customers to agree with you, then maybe the employers will start to open up to the idea.

Tattoos are okay...I dislike piercings.

lol, i'm the opposite.  i hate tattoos but i love piercings

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Think of it this way, instead of choosing to get a piercing, the employer sees it as you choosing to risk not getting that job and just not caring about their policies.

 

If you can't see that the employers just care about the money, and that's the reason they're trying to appease all of their customers, i really don't think i can explain it any better than that.

 

I've seen people look really nice for the interview, and after they got hired, they'd put all their piercings back in and they couldn't be fired for it as long as it doesn't explicitly state it in the dress code.

 

I've had plenty of jobs that let you wear whatever though.  Maybe you should try looking for work in other places.  The places you're talking about are really not going to change their minds.  Walmart is big enough that they can hire/not hire anyone they want and be as picky as they want.  

 

If you really feel strongly about it, perhaps try to get a lot of people together to start an organization that works towards having the work force accept body modification.  Don't protest or do anything hostile, but just spread awareness and why you think it should be allowed.  If you get enough of the customers to agree with you, then maybe the employers will start to open up to the idea.

 

lol, i'm the opposite.  i hate tattoos but i love piercings

That's what I am saying, I think more people should be rising up to support this idea because unless we tell employers they can't police what we do outside of work, they are going to keep doing it. Also believe it or not, Walmart is less picky than you'd think because they have SUCH A HIGH TURN OVER, they actually can't afford to be as picky because people quit that job so frequently. Beggars can't be choosers.

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That's what I am saying, I think more people should be rising up to support this idea because unless we tell employers they can't police what we do outside of work, they are going to keep doing it. Also believe it or not, Walmart is less picky than you'd think because they have SUCH A HIGH TURN OVER, they actually can't afford to be as picky because people quit that job so frequently. Beggars can't be choosers.

The unemployment rate is really high right now.  People leaving the job a lot is good, because then they get new people that will do as they say just so they have a job.

 

I've worked in a job like that that was really shi**y and people quit constantly.  Every person that left had 20 more people lined up to take that job.

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The unemployment rate is really high right now.  People leaving the job a lot is good, because then they get new people that will do as they say just so they have a job.

 

I've worked in a job like that that was really shi**y and people quit constantly.  Every person that left had 20 more people lined up to take that job.

Honestly, I am hoping that within the next 5 years we will see companies start to hire more people with piercings and tattoos and tell this older generation to shove it because what I wear should not affect my performance at work. Just because I have piercings does not mean I am suddenly going to be bad at my job.

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Honestly, I am hoping that within the next 5 years we will see companies start to hire more people with piercings and tattoos and tell this older generation to shove it because what I wear should not affect my performance at work. Just because I have piercings does not mean I am suddenly going to be bad at my job.

I may be biased because i work with a lot of old people, but sometimes they're legit scared and uncomfortable around people with a lot of piercings and stuff.  Back in their day, it was bad guys that were associated with that image.  It doesn't really help to get mad at them.  It's not like they're trying to just outcast everyone.  

 

But like I said, there are a lot of jobs that are ok with it.  Dress nice for the interview, be respectful, maybe look for places that have employees that also have piercings and stuff.  

 

I'd love to just wear whatever without being judged, but that just isn't going to happen.

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I personally would never get tattoos or piercings in my life. However I have no problem with people who do. But don't take it personal dude. Those employers know that many people are uncomfortable and intimidated by people with piercings and such and wouldn't want to risk any problems. Until people get more used to others with piercings it isnt gonna change and probably will when we are much older.

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Tattoos and piercings, at least when someone has plenty of them, are generally associated with gangs and drop-outs. Is this a fair generalization? I don't think so, but that's how it is, and that's why the discrimination still exists. It should be illegal to refuse to hire someone based off this. Having a tattoo or piercing doesn't automatically make you incompetent. What should matter is work ethic and productivity, both of which can't accurately be judged simply based on the number of tattoos and piercings one has.

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I don't like piercings except on the ears AT ALL. I mean, I don't know why. I just don't like the idea. And I have watched many shows where body parts get cut off for whatever reason and I just said 'Oh, so that happened' so I just don't know.

 

Tattoos are fine though, despite the fact I'd never get one.

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I plan on getting one sometime soon. To honour my Nordic heritage I'm getting a Longsword with Jörmungandr the serpent around it on the back of my leg. Im going to have an artist friend draw it up for me and then go to a good tattoo shop to get it done

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