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Before anyone brings up Twilight just flying around, this will just be a magic duel. In other words, both fighters will stay within view of the other and basically blast spells at each other. Teleporting is allowed, but only to doge

 

I think No-Nose wins because Avada Kedavra is unbelievably hax(tears the soul from your body)

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Excluding explosive spells, Harry potter magic is depth of penetration, which means it can only affect targets with wall level durability or lower. This is due to them being unable to to affect dragons unless aimed at sensitive spots, giants being immune to stun spells unless combined, people being immune to light curses with sufficient body protection, harry being able to hide from Avarda Kedavra behind a tombstone, etc.

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Well, if he-who-must-not-be-named (:lol:) uses the Avada Kedavra curse, then I'm pretty sure he would win, and it's likely he would try to use that. I could only see Twilight winning if she had the power from the rest of the princesses too, like in the season 4 finale.

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Well, if he-who-must-not-be-named ( :lol:) uses the Avada Kedavra curse, then I'm pretty sure he would win, and it's likely he would try to use that. I could only see Twilight winning if she had the power from the rest of the princesses too, like in the season 4 finale.

I definitely agree with you. If she had the power of all the princesses and her friends, she could most likely overpower Voldemort.

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Twilight loses... if we were talking first episode or so. Twilight's been past Harry Potter verse since Boast Busters; she casually crushes him and everyone in the verse, at the same time, with minimal application.

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Twilight loses... if we were talking first episode or so. Twilight's been past Harry Potter verse since Boast Busters; she casually crushes him and everyone in the verse, at the same time, with minimal application.

Fiendfyre can do the trick on Twilight, she doesn't have resistance to fire in her bag of tricks, does she? She could sheild it though

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Fiendfyre can do the trick on Twilight, she doesn't have resistance to fire in her bag of tricks, does she? She could sheild it though

It would kill Voldemort, but its chance of working on Twilight is minimal. If Voldemort's duel with Dumbeldore is any indication, and if we're taking movie canon, Fiendyre can be manipulated by a stronger user, which means she can turn it back on him. She has intangibility to avoid it entirely, teleportation to avoid it momentarily, and magical shields to prevent it from reaching her at all. Or she could simply dispel it, if we're assuming dark magic is the same in both worlds.

Meanwhile, considering flying is restricted, Voldemort has no way to avoid it at all. He would either be forced to dispel it, or risk dying in the inferno.

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It would kill Voldemort, but its chance of working on Twilight is minimal. If Voldemort's duel with Dumbeldore is any indication, and if we're taking movie canon, Fiendyre can be manipulated by a stronger user, which means she can turn it back on him. She has intangibility to avoid it entirely, teleportation to avoid it momentarily, and magical shields to prevent it from reaching her at all. Or she could simply dispel it, if we're assuming dark magic is the same in both worlds.

Meanwhile, considering flying is restricted, Voldemort has no way to avoid it at all. He would either be forced to dispel it, or risk dying in the inferno.

I'm going by the books in this case, as in those cases, it was more like a slug fest of them tossing spells at each other, not really deflecting

 

DBZ laser > little green beam

Twilight only did that whilst powered up. Also, the little green beam would kill Twilight if she didn't shield it, though she probably will

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I'm going by the books in this case, as in those cases, it was more like a slug fest of them tossing spells at each other, not really deflecting

 

Twilight only did that whilst powered up. Also, the little green beam would kill Twilight if she didn't shield it, though she probably will

Still useless in that regard. Also, HP spells only have penetrative power up to wall level; the killing curse wouldn't work on Twilight.

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Still useless in that regard. Also, HP spells only have penetrative power up to wall level; the killing curse wouldn't work on Twilight.

Twilight's skin isn't thicker than a wall and she's not as tough as a wall either, considering she was afraid of a bundle of glorified sticks

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Okay, as a huge book nerd...

 

FRICKEN "HE-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED"

Only Harry Potter can beat 'He-Must-Not-Be-Named. Wait, Harry killed him.... VOLDEMORT VOLDEMORT.

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Twilight's skin isn't thicker than a wall and she's not as tough as a wall either, considering she was afraid of a bundle of glorified sticks

Just fixing a dam in mysterious Mare Do Well already puts her higher than wall level. So does moving the Ursa. So does taking a shot from the dragon in Dragonshy. So does scaling from Rainbow Dash. So does all of the shields she's conjured in the show, and accelerating Spike's growth, and flipping her tree upside down...

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Well, as voldemort cant be killed unless all the horcruxes are destroyed first, including harry, i doubt Twilight could defeat him. We should also count that Twilight doesnt kill people, even Voldemort is someone Twilight wouldnt kill.

 

Discounting the whole horcrux deal, The killing curse would definitely kill twilight.

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Just fixing a dam in mysterious Mare Do Well already puts her higher than wall level. So does moving the Ursa. So does taking a shot from the dragon in Dragonshy. So does scaling from Rainbow Dash. So does all of the shields she's conjured in the show, and accelerating Spike's growth, and flipping her tree upside down...

That's with shields, not with her actual physical body. I said if it actually hits her, she's dead. And I fail to see how some of those matter

 

In Mare-Do-Well, she levitated some rocks. I can lift a bowling ball, doesn't mean that I can tank a knife stab

Same with the Ursa. She's just lifting it

She took a blast of steam that didn't even scorch the ground? Regardless, heat resistance is different from explosive and concussive resistance

There's nothing to say Twilight's physical body can take hits as well as Rainbow Dash

The most her shields have blocked is the CMC and Discord playing around immensely

How does accelerating Spike's growth matter? Poison Ivy can make plants grow, a knife in the back would kill her

Flipping a tree was done by Trixie, wasn't it? Regardless, it's a levitation feat, not a shielding thing

 

The only way that's relevant is if shields are some form of levitation. Again, it's worth saying that Timberwolves scared her, the same thing that can be killed by choking on a pebble.

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That's with shields, not with her actual physical body. I said if it actually hits her, she's dead. And I fail to see how some of those matter

 

In Mare-Do-Well, she levitated some rocks. I can lift a bowling ball, doesn't mean that I can tank a knife stab

Same with the Ursa. She's just lifting it

She took a blast of steam that didn't even scorch the ground? Regardless, heat resistance is different from explosive and concussive resistance

There's nothing to say Twilight's physical body can take hits as well as Rainbow Dash

The most her shields have blocked is the CMC and Discord playing around immensely

How does accelerating Spike's growth matter? Poison Ivy can make plants grow, a knife in the back would kill her

Flipping a tree was done by Trixie, wasn't it? Regardless, it's a levitation feat, not a shielding thing

 

The only way that's relevant is if shields are some form of levitation. Again, it's worth saying that Timberwolves scared her, the same thing that can be killed by choking on a pebble.

That's actually purely based on concentration. Knife stabs focus force into one specific point, which lets them do more damage than if it were spread out over a surface area.

For the rest of it, magic in MLP comes from the body, unlike in the HP universe, where it's attached to an object. It's akin to physical strength in that regard, in that in order to magically manipulate something, you have to withstand that same force acting on you. Someone lifting a building with magic wouldn't be harmed by a wall level attack because they've already withstood more force than that attack can give.

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I'm going to have to give this one to Voldemort.

 

Voldemort would have no compunction against just killing Twilight from the start, whereas Twilight is not really the sort go go straight for the kill, and I doubt that Twilight could keep Voldemort contained for long, as even Dumbledore failed.

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Again, she's afraid of Timberwolves and Manticores and was taken down by the Cockatrice, whose stare failed against Fluttershy 

Plot elements have nothing to do with a characters abilities, which makes me wonder why you keep bringing them up. Twilight's baseline is consistently above even building level.

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Plot elements have nothing to do with a characters abilities, which makes me wonder why you keep bringing them up. Twilight's baseline is consistently above even building level.

If you discount being afraid of something's power as useless, I'd dread to see your power chains for pretty much any shonen anime. And magic is specific, just because she can lift the Ursa, doesn't mean she can crush it

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If you discount being afraid of something's power as useless, I'd dread to see your power chains for pretty much any shonen anime. And magic is specific, just because she can lift the Ursa, doesn't mean she can crush it

Straw man argument: I never said she could crush it, or that she even needed to. Although it is possible to crush things via telekinesis in MLP: Twilight did it with a sheet of paper in Testing, Testing, 1 2 3. When you're strong enough, same principles apply to the human body.

Of course, the entire backend of this conversation is a red herring, since you decided to talk about Timberwolves instead of adressing my actual post on magic on the last page. 

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It's a pretty direct correlation. If she's afraid of a Timerwolf, they are in the same range of power as her. Timberwolves can choke on pebbles yet Twilight can't mimic this with a force choke or something. Ergo, Twilight's levitation is just levitation, not crushing. And comparing crushing a paperball to crushing a piece of wood is rather silly 

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It's a pretty direct correlation. If she's afraid of a Timerwolf, they are in the same range of power as her. Timberwolves can choke on pebbles yet Twilight can't mimic this with a force choke or something. Ergo, Twilight's levitation is just levitation, not crushing. And comparing crushing a paperball to crushing a piece of wood is rather silly 

I's not in the shows nature to resolve things through explicit violence, especially choking things. It's also not in Twillght's nature, so I don't know why you'd bring it up. We don't really have enough information on Timberwolves for this to be a worthwhile conversation

And it's not all that convoluted, crushing something larger just requires applying more force. If I can crush a rock, I can crush a caterpillar. If I can crush a mountain, I can crush a building. I've already shown that Twilight can crush things, now we just need to establish how much force she can exert. She has enough magical energy to move several hundred tons of rocks in Mare Do Well, more than enough to pulverize a human being.

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