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The one thing I really want to know about Season 5 is who is the new villain? Grogar? Katrina? Smooze? or even something completely original? Who do you think? And what will the arc be about? Will we meet Chrysalis again in canon? What about Tirek? Will he return? I Want the villain to be a Giygas/Galactus-esque villain capable of destroying the universe. Or a dictator with a massive army. What do you think?

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Something original? I'm afraid to tell you none of the G4 villains are original. Back on topic, I hope Grogar with its original personality, and not changing him just like they ruined Tirek.

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A new villain that puts friendship to the fire. Have one of the Mane become the friend of this new villain after it does a good deed for them. She sees the villain as okay in her book and they have some serious discussion of ideologies. The other Mane 5 are suspicious of this new villain and they discover that the villain is trouble for Equestria. So the single Mane is quick to defend her new friend and speaks about the villain's ideology being right.

 

Now when it comes to the clash between the villain and Mane 5, that Mane's loyalty will be put the test as she has to betray one of her friends.

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Something original? I'm afraid to tell you none of the G4 villains are original. Back on topic, I hope Grogar with its original personality, and not changing him just like they ruined Tirek.

 

Yes but how powerful is Grogar compared to Tirek? He's a frickin goat!!! Tirek is a Centaur who can increase himself to the size of a large city. Maybe not as powerful as Giygas. But certainly as powerful as the hulk.

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Yes but how powerful is Grogar compared to Tirek? He's a frickin goat!!! Tirek is a Centaur who can increase himself to the size of a large city. Maybe not as powerful as Giygas. But certainly as powerful as the hulk.

 

Tirek was originally not a powerful monster-monkey/cow thingy as he was in G4, he had only one weapon, the Rainbow of Darkness, which would either be compared or be similar in power as the Elements of Harmony, since that Rainbow is made of pure evil.

 

Grogar in G1 was easily the most powerful in the show, only second to the Smooze that appeared before in the movie, he was able to control the magical horns of the Unicorns and make them unuseful, andalso was one of the most intelligent villains, he set traps and could get into dreams, just like Luna. Grogar had an impressive amount of power, but it was only from the bell he had in his collar. The same bell connected to the other powerful bell in his tower that kept him trapped in another dimension fro about 500 years or so.

 

Yeah, he might not seem like it, but he's friggin' powerful. More than G4 Tirek before absorbing the Alicorns' powers I would say. HIt also helps that he's ruthless and dark-hearted more than most villains in the show, in comparison with Lavan, Arabus or the Witches.

 

They can't bring the Smooze back because let's face it, nothing can stop it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CnOysetlQw

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Villains would need to be more than being lonely selfish characters bent on ultimate conquest.  With an alternate win scenario than Friendship Power > Villain's power > Individual's Power.

 

FIM hasn't tried the diplomatic solution of having the villain just give up their harmful endeavor in the end rather than blast with magic into submission.

 

The story could just have the villain just ultimately fail own their own without the Mane 6 doing it and have them pick up the villain from that failure.

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It'd be interesting if it was Hydia

 

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Make her a villain obsessed with beauty. She was once a beauty who was driven into exile by ponies because a certain Alicorn curse changed her to be ugly. Now her plan is to make ponies look horrible and suffer the same curse. Attempts to be her friend by ponies fail because of the bad history she has with them in the past. 

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Make her a villain obsessed with beauty. She was once a beauty who was driven into exile by ponies because a curse changed her to be ugly. Now her plan is to make ponies look horrible and suffer the same curse. Attempts to be her friend by ponies fail because of the bad history she has with them in the past. 

 

Yes! Rarity would make a lot of fight to her :D

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Make her a villain obsessed with beauty. She was once a beauty who was driven into exile by ponies because a certain Alicorn curse changed her to be ugly. Now her plan is to make ponies look horrible and suffer the same curse. Attempts to be her friend by ponies fail because of the bad history she has with them in the past. 

 

There's already a G1 villain obsessed with beauty. Some kind of pig queen.

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I want the villain to be something a bit different to what we've seen before. A villain who's scheming and intelligent, rather than just magically powerful, and for their role to be played out throughout the season and not over after the first two episodes.

 

I'm actually quite curious to know all the villains that are in Tartarus. An interesting starting point for the season would be if somepony (our intelligent villain) released all the prisoners of Tartarus so that throughout the season the mane 6 have to find and defeat all of them, before they eventually uncover at the end of the season who let them out. Of course, by that point the villain has already wormed his way to the throne of Equestria and now they need to try and outsmart him and save the Kingdom.

 

 

There's already a G1 villain obsessed with beauty. Some kind of pig queen.

Just because there was a similar G1 villain doesn't mean the idea can't be done again. I don't think any of the previous generations really have anything to do with or should affect the current one. Yes, there may be some characters or concepts that appear in both, but I'd take this Gen to be something unto itself, an alternate universe really. There's a pony multiverse out there...all being watched by the Pony Monitor!  :ph34r:

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Just because there was a similar G1 villain doesn't mean the idea can't be done again. I don't think any of the previous generations really have anything to do with or should affect the current one. Yes, there may be some characters or concepts that appear in both, but I'd take this Gen to be something unto itself, an alternate universe really. There's a pony multiverse out there...all being watched by the Pony Monitor!  :ph34r:

 

You do realize 98% of the G4's characters have been in the previous gens? And the characters aren't even that original, pretty bland and generic, and that includes the new Tirek, who just straight up robbed another G1 villain's power, Arabus, who also sucked magic from his mouth and also became bigger and stronger.

 

Clearly, the writers of G4 are VERY good. And I could mention a lot of other similarities that could maybe ruin G4's status. For example, the Diamond Dogs who are just some thugs in G4 are inspired by Crunch the Rock Dog, a bulldog that was the guardian of a heart jewel that kept a living mountain alive. 

 

Diamond Tiara is really similar to a few bullies from G1.5, Discord is an obvious rip-off of a Star Trek villain, Sombra is just a bad mix between Sauron from LOTR and Grogar from G1, Queen Chrysalis is another obvious rip-off; Scar from The Lion King and Ursula from the Little Mermaid. Aside from other obvious ruined characters.

 

Does Lauren's team thinks bronies are stupid ot something? Well, maybe they are. They do really think the personalities of the characters are somehow unique and that the villains are great somehow, when ALL of them are barely a dangerous lethal threat.

 

At least in G1 they tried something new, even if it didn't always worked.

 

Again, as I said previously I want the original Grogar.

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You do realize 98% of the G4's characters have been in the previous gens? 

Yes, hence why I said:

 

Just because there was a similar G1 villain doesn't mean the idea can't be done again. I don't think any of the previous generations really have anything to do with or should affect the current one. Yes, there may be some characters or concepts that appear in both, but I'd take this Gen to be something unto itself, an alternate universe really.

 

 

Tirek, who just straight up robbed another G1 villain's power, Arabus, who also sucked magic from his mouth and also became bigger and stronger.

 

Yeah, because no other villain in anything ever absorbed power from the heroes.

 

Clearly, the writers of G4 are VERY good. And I could mention a lot of other similarities that could maybe ruin G4's status. For example, the Diamond Dogs who are just some thugs in G4 are inspired by Crunch the Rock Dog, a bulldog that was the guardian of a heart jewel that kept a living mountain alive. 

 

I took the Diamond Dogs as a nice David Bowie inspired reference...or possibly a Bowie reference via a Venture Bros reference.

 

Diamond Tiara is really similar to a few bullies from G1.5,

 

Or any other bully portrayed in any form of media ever.

 

Discord is an obvious rip-off of a Star Trek villain

 

That was played up a lot more deliberately with the voice casting.

 

Sombra is just a bad mix between Sauron from LOTR and Grogar from G1, Queen Chrysalis is another obvious rip-off; Scar from The Lion King and Ursula from the Little Mermaid. Aside from other obvious ruined characters.

Absolutely none of any of those other characters mentioned are truly "original". Original characters, plots, situations, etc. all stopped existing long ago, as everything has pretty much already been done. Everything is just an archetype of something, and all we can really do is determine whether it's being done well or not.

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A Queen Beryl type main villain with a turn pony into a "monster" of the week and harvest negative energy to free a more major evil upon the land. It could give a background pony their own moment in the spotlight with the Mane 6 stopping them from destroying Equestria and resolving their problem. Have some disposable officer underlings who disappear and never return after failing too much for the Queen villain.

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I would definitely prefer to have an original villain for s5. If they are going to bring back villains from g1, it better not be The Smooze or Hydia. Because I find the idea behind them to be completely stupid.

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Just because they brought Tirek back, doesn't mean they're going to go all out resurrecting characters from previous gens. On one hand it's nice to see those old characters getting some attention, but they are probably wanting to make new ones.

In my opinion, Tirek wasn't as liked as Chrysalis or Discord for example though that's not to say it wasn't an outstanding episode he starred in.

 

Personally I'd like to see a villain for the whole season arc.

One we've never seen before, a new threat!

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