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We all love SpongeBob back in the late 90's. It was boomed with popularity and beliefs, also presented with excellent dialogue and humor, especially heartwarming moments. With SpongeBob, the titular character, the show has plentiful of musical scores, including the characters. I had always thought that Stephen Hillenburg would end the show altogether with a bang and leave it as the legendary show... or so I thought.

 

After Paul Tibbit and an inexperienced number of writers were brought in, things went for the worst. He and the writers turned a legendary show into a nightmare.

 

The majority of the episodes from season 4 and beyond has lost its jewel from Seasons 1-3, and the many of the episodes have been altered and degraded, from SpongeBob's complete idiocy to the episodes' bad morals. Take One Coarse Meal, for example, an episode involving torminting a victim and drive said victim to suicide, and Mr. Krabs showed no remorse for it. That showed lack of consistency and humor/comedy. It was not only sadistic, but downright ineffable, thanks to Paul Tibbit and his rookie writers. Another is Demolition Doofus, an episode of having someone being physically disabled, and made fun of the said disabled person in the most insulting manner there is. And again, SpongeBob showed no remose, and it even shows that he intentionally crashed into the lighthouse, but doesn't even admit the fact that he obviously disabled Mrs. Puff.

 

The other episode was known as Squid's Visit, an episode which involves, simply put, stalking a person. Even going as far as to rip his toenail off, and this got past the ratings why? Because they thought it makes children laugh at seeing someone's toenail being ripped off. Face Freeze is, to put it simply, a creepypasta-like episode. It pretty much makes Jeff the Killer something to laugh at, instead of to fear at. Lastly, Stuck in the Wringer is pretty much my hated episode. Patrick, who was SpongeBob's best friend and neighbor, did more harm than good, by gluing him in between the wringer, rather than pulling him free. And what happened to SpongeBob after he scolded Patrick for making things worse? He ends up taking the blame by the Bikini Bottom citizens. Patrick was stupid in Seasons 1-3, but ina  funny way. Seasons 4 and beyond, though, Patrick goes beyond stupid that his IQ was now -75 that you'd be wishing the writes thought twice of ruining the former legendary show.

 

As for the morals? Seasons 4 and beyond had poor morals, which was already mentioned by the episodes I've pointed out, so as of today, and unless Paul Tibbit can end the show and only air the older episodes, it'll teach children something, but I highly doubt it. He'll pretty much go as far as Seasons 50-100, not even caring to the realization that this show was never meant to be; with poor morals, and alienated personalities in famous characters. He'll only end SpongeBob when he feels like it.

 

All in all, what do you guys think of SpongeBob Season 4 and beyond? Apart from Seasons 1-3.

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To me, I'd rather think that there are two categories: good Spongebob and Bad Spongebob. If I were to use Classic Spongebob and Modern Spongebob, not only that'll make me look like a nostalgia jerk, but it'll also be a poor judgement to Modern Spongebob.

 

That isn't to say that I like new Spongebob, however. I've only seen most of Season 4 and 5 and I know that the majority of Bad Spongebob is, well, bad. I always enjoy myself a Classic/Good episode from time to time (Krusty Krab Training Video <3) but there are still some Modern episodes that I like. Skill Crane and Roller Cowards are two modern episodes I like. 

 

The episodes you listed are bad, however. Or, at least what I've seen in some reviews. Speaking of the toenail scene, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find it disgusting. Hating an episode just because of one gross-out scene is very unfair, isn't it? It's like saying that I hate Dragonshy because of the scene when Lyra sits like a human. (I don't hate that scene. It's kind of cute, actually. xP)

 

As for the moral thing... Spongebob has always been a comedy show, right from the start. They may play morals seriously from time to time, but most of the time Spongebob is all about the humour. Some people think MLP:FiM like this, but there's a big difference between the two. Spongebob's stories are simple and focus on entertainment, while MLP:FiM has story arcs and morals that aren't taken seriously.

 

Season 50-100 is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? :P I'd rather see what'll happen to the show than say "I told you so" when a new Season appears. Then again, that's how I usually feel about most long runners in general. People would think that they'll never end, but everything has to come to an end one day.

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There are good and bad episodes for every season, and while I never watched Spongebob as much (whether newer or older), it's still an alright show, even the newer episodes. Also, watching Spongebob for morals seems like a bad idea in the first place, it just seems more like an entertainment show. And I've personally always thought the hate for the modern episodes has always been overblown. 

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Why is Sponge Bob even being put on display in this forum? This is to showcase one of, if not, the best show

in existence. MLP. With magnificant showmanship of literacy and working knowledge of what everypony wishes to watch. Nopony wants to see distruction of populations or the dismemberment of body parts. Nore do we wanna whitness the rude/ crude humor of mean spirited Democrat writers. I anyway, wanna see friends; and how too come about making them. Not how too make ones my slaves. Or how to force somepony to become one. Thats not what TV should be promoting. SpoungeBob should be on the same list of relics like Ren And Stimpy or Bevis and Butthead. Great shows of its time. But nothing substantial to the development of the human culture.

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Speaking of the toenail scene, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find it disgusting. Hating an episode just because of one gross-out scene is very unfair, isn't it? It's like saying that I hate Dragonshy because of the scene when Lyra sits like a human. (I don't hate that scene. It's kind of cute, actually. xP)

 

Wasn't the toenail scene in the episode House Fancy? I swear that episode would be a lot more liked if the toenail scene was disregarded

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case in point just watch the splinter episode it is disgusting and show make spongebob be rated TVMA instead of a show directed to children. I also dislike the crappy sponge because he helped to get korra off the air korra was such a good show and became replaced with reruns of the sponge essentially
 

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I to this day still watch spongebob but only the first 3 seasons because I have them on DVD. I can only remember a few season 4 episodes but the ones I remember we're pretty good :I maybe it's because I haven't seen any season 4 for a few years but I can still agree that season 1-3 had all the best episodes of spongebob and of any children's show! Yeah that's right! I said it! The best spongebob episodes are better than the best mlp episodes but mlp is better overall.

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I think the hate for Modern Spongebob has been overblown a bit. Sure Modern Spongebob may not be as good as Old Spongebob, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't have any good episodes. And Old Spongebob was not perfect. It had its fair share of bad episodes. I don't think Spongebob is the show where you would want good morals either. It's strictly a comedy show, so you wouldn't have any really good morals. (That's what MLP:FiM is for ;))

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I think the hate for Modern Spongebob has been overblown a bit. Sure Modern Spongebob may not be as good as Old Spongebob, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't have any good episodes. And Old Spongebob was not perfect. It had its fair share of bad episodes. I don't think Spongebob is the show where you would want good morals either. It's strictly a comedy show, so you wouldn't have any really good morals. (That's what MLP:FiM is for ;))

 

It may be a comedy show, but when there are certain episodes like One Coarse Meal and Squid's Visit, its pretty much anything but. And its not that I hate the new SpongeBob, its the overall quality that has been degraded. That's just my saying, but you get what I mean.

 

To me, I'd rather think that there are two categories: good Spongebob and Bad Spongebob. If I were to use Classic Spongebob and Modern Spongebob, not only that'll make me look like a nostalgia jerk, but it'll also be a poor judgement to Modern Spongebob.

 

That isn't to say that I like new Spongebob, however. I've only seen most of Season 4 and 5 and I know that the majority of Bad Spongebob is, well, bad. I always enjoy myself a Classic/Good episode from time to time (Krusty Krab Training Video <3) but there are still some Modern episodes that I like. Skill Crane and Roller Cowards are two modern episodes I like. 

 

The episodes you listed are bad, however. Or, at least what I've seen in some reviews. Speaking of the toenail scene, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find it disgusting. Hating an episode just because of one gross-out scene is very unfair, isn't it? It's like saying that I hate Dragonshy because of the scene when Lyra sits like a human. (I don't hate that scene. It's kind of cute, actually. xP)

 

As for the moral thing... Spongebob has always been a comedy show, right from the start. They may play morals seriously from time to time, but most of the time Spongebob is all about the humour. Some people think MLP:FiM like this, but there's a big difference between the two. Spongebob's stories are simple and focus on entertainment, while MLP:FiM has story arcs and morals that aren't taken seriously.

 

Season 50-100 is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? :P I'd rather see what'll happen to the show than say "I told you so" when a new Season appears. Then again, that's how I usually feel about most long runners in general. People would think that they'll never end, but everything has to come to an end one day.

Driving someone to suicide in One Coarse Meal isn't considered to be comedy; its sadistic and wrong, same goes for Demolition Doofus, where making fun of someone's disability isn't considered humor at all, and is rather insulting instead. There are some good episodes, yes, but the majority of those episodes from said Seasons are rushed and badly executed. I'm all for humor and comedy, yes, but when it comes to certain episodes like these, you'd realize that these don't deserve the humor they get.

Never really understood why everyone hates Season 4 and beyond. And I still don't. It's still entertaining to watch in my opinion.

 

Have you seen certain episodes I've pointed out? Those are the reasons why, and most of the episodes are rushed.

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I find season 4 to be mostly OK, and season 5 doesn't bug me (disregarding a few episodes)

 

I used to think old spongebob wasn't THAT good, but the other day I was channel flipping and came across randy cunningham 9th grade ninja (its bad) and swtiched over to spongebob (it was the episode The Secret Box) and was LOLing. AND I HAD JUST SEEN THAT EPISODE.

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There are some episodes after season 4 that are good. If you want to know what newer episodes are good and which ones to stay away from I recommend checking out Pieguyrulz and TheMysteriousMrEnter's videos.

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This seems to be a common trend among shows, especially cartoons. The first three seasons will be really great. Every season after that progressively gets worse and worse. Therefore, I fear foe the new season of MLP as they are bringing in writers. I don't know. The new writers of season four surprised me with some good episodes, so maybe I'll probably be surprised by season five. But, SponegeBob has been getting somewhat better in recent years. While I wish it would have ended with the movie (which is most likely how MLP is going to end) like it was supposed to, I am kind of looking forward to the second film, in part because Stephen is the one writing it, supposedly.

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could it be that you're over using your nostalgia goggles?

 

I'm not gonna lie and say that I've been keeping up with the more recent Spongebob, but I doubt it could be that bad.

 

I don't care what it is, we will always like what came first, I bet if these writer's had started Spongebob back in the 90's, their episodes would be perfect.

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Ah Spongebob, the cartoon that can make a mistake in every possible way possible. 

 

Mean Spirited humor: Squidward torture porn

 

Punishment to characters who never deserve it: Boating Buddies, Choir Boys, One Coarse Meal.

 

Terrible Morals: Stuck in the Wringer

 

Specials with a lack of substance: Atlantis Squarepanis and Truth or Square

 

Gross out just there for the heck of it: House Fancy, Fungus Among Us

 

Flanderization: Squid Baby

 

Destroying a character: Demolition Dofus.

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Not disagreeing that the quality's definitely taken a dive since the movie, however...

 

Face Freeze is, to put it simply, a creepypasta-like episode. It pretty much makes Jeff the Killer something to laugh at, instead of to fear at.

 

…was Jeff the Killer ever scary (to anyone above the age of 12)?

 

Furthermore, what's wrong with cartoons making mockeries of scary things? That's a fairly common trope in cartoons. Hell, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy practically banks on it. Even Spongebob has poked fun at ghouls (Flying Dutchman), slasher films (Hash-slinging Slasher), zombies (the health inspector), and probably a crap-ton more I can't think of off the top of my head.

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Not disagreeing that the quality's definitely taken a dive since the movie, however...

 

 

…was Jeff the Killer ever scary (to anyone above the age of 12)?

 

Furthermore, what's wrong with cartoons making mockeries of scary things? That's a fairly common trope in cartoons. Hell, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy practically banks on it. Even Spongebob has poked fun at ghouls (Flying Dutchman), slasher films (Hash-slinging Slasher), zombies (the health inspector), and probably a crap-ton more I can't think of off the top of my head.

 

They were scary good from the shows you mentioned, but Face Freeze was scary bad among children. As far as I saw the reviewers, one even mentioned that Face Freeze had kept younger children up at night without the risk of sleeping through a horrible nightmare.

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It may be a comedy show, but when there are certain episodes like One Coarse Meal and Squid's Visit, its pretty much anything but. And its not that I hate the new SpongeBob, its the overall quality that has been degraded. That's just my saying, but you get what I mean.

 

Sure, it's quality has degraded overtime, but I don't think you should judge Modern Spongebob by those or other bad episodes. Like I said before, It has good episodes (see "Sand Castles In The Sand, Enchanted Tiki Dreams, and Planet Of The Jellyfish to see my point) Besides, I would watch those episodes over Modern Family Guy anytime.

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Sure, it's quality has degraded overtime, but I don't think you should judge Modern Spongebob by those or other bad episodes. Like I said before, It has good episodes (see "Sand Castles In The Sand, Enchanted Tiki Dreams, and Planet Of The Jellyfish to see my point) Besides, I would watch those episodes over Modern Family Guy anytime.

That's not really saying much though tbh. It's pretty much the equivalent of saying "I'd rather play Ride To Hell Retribution over Superman 64

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I think it has gotten worse. Growing up, I used to love the show. I adored it, laughed at it, and was so entertained. Now, being older, they hid some jokes in there, those sly dogs.  ;) Of course, as a kid, we did not understand them...well, hopefully we didn't understand them  :blink:

 

 

I mean, season 4 was okay, but after that has gotten worse. I think Spongebob sounds more "whiny". I know its still Tom Kenny, but I dunno, Spongebob sounds so much more different. Of course the show did have some disgusting moments, but was also funny. I feel like the newer episodes are starting to gross me out more. I also feel the episodes aren't as creative as they used to be. Spongebob had some GREAT classic moments none of us can ever forget about, but now some of the episodes bore me to pieces. 

 

Even the newest movie coming out seems a bit our of whack. I mean, the first Spongebob movie they did was pure genius.

 

Some of the newest episodes are alright, but I barely even watch Spongebob anymore, maybe here and there. I really never watch TV no more. Only a few shows. I have the internet to watch whatever I want now.

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