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Was EQG made just to spite fans of FiM?


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Let's be real here, why was EQG really made? People are probably going to say "Because Hasbro wanted to compete with other doll lines such as Monster High". If that was the case, then they would've made a separate IP for that sort of thing. Hasbro most likely knew that the reason MLP has been successful in the first place was because of its pony characters. They also probably knew that bronies are known to complain about a lot of things, so they just put what people loved so dearly about it to the side for something most of them never were interested in seeing. As a result, that's exactly what happened in the end.

 

Don't get me wrong, EQG, for what it is, seems OK. I've only watched reactions of the movies and not the movies themselves. The fact that ponies aren't the focus here is rather odd because it's called My Little Pony for a reason, and not My Little Human. I myself have rather wanted to see art and stories about ponies instead of stories about ponies turning into humans or art of ponies as humans. Instead of spending their resources on these three movies, they could've made three good movies about ponies, like it was so hard for them to make one and now we have to wait for over two years for one.

 

I however do appreciate that EQG introduced characters like Sunset Shimmer and the Sirens, but they're better off being in the actual show than movies about humans in high school.

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Equestria Girls, just like Friendship is Magic, was produced to sell toys and other merchandise, sell DVDs, and sell advertising spots on TV.

 

Unlike Friendship is Magic, it served an additional purpose: to sell cinema tickets.

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It was made to try and market off the success of Monster High dolls, much like how everyone are making Skylanders clones after Skylanders' success. They didn't go into a board room with the mission statement "How can we piss off a whole group of people?", but more like "How can we make more money off this franchise?"

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I've heard that EQG was actually inspired by the humanized fan art produced by the fandom...  So blame the fandom. xD

 

I'm all about the poneh.  I'm not interested in EQG, and I'm similarly uninterested in humanized / anthro fan art.  BUT, there's enough of that stuff out there that one could assume the fandom embraces it.

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The concept of it being made out of spite is overreaching. Monster High was Mattel's biggest successor, and Hasbro wanted to compete. The reasons why Equestria Girls is "FIM-related" is as follows:

  1. Creating a new IP can be expensive and risks not getting it noticed. Tagging it onto an existing IP cuts the cost and gives Hasbro the better capability to advertize it.
  2. Because FIM's toyline's is one of their biggest, slapping the FIM logo on the front equals more sales and more exposure for FIM.
  3. Even though the main animated series is written as an all-ages, gender-neutral family show, Hasbro continues to treat their FIM as a "girls-only" product and treats it as such in their first-party merchandise. Equestria Girls (both the merhcandise and films) panders to that market, notably adolescent girls (the base market of EQG).
  4. They're limited releases in movie theaters as well, so they get some revenue from cinema tickets.
I've heard that EQG was actually inspired by the humanized fan art produced by the fandom... So blame the fandom. xD

Many of us have heard it. That comment was nothing more than a joke by IDW's writers, but done so dryly, it can come off as serious.

 

No. It was made for little girls, who happen to absolutely love it.

Friendship Is Magic's animated product isn't executed as something "for little girls," but for everyone. Girls, boys, kids, adults. Equestria Girls's base market isn't four- to six-year-old kids like FIM, but kids ages ten to fourteen. Its base market is older than the main series.

 

As intended, and as it should be.

Wrong. If it's "as intended," then Equestria Girls would actually be designed and written in a way that respects the periphery demographic just as much as the main demographics, something Friendship Is Magic and G1 succeeded. The concept of "as intended, as it should" is disrespectful to both adults AND children.

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...Yeah, I know lots of people hate EQG (and that's fine), but this is pretty reaching. As much as some bronies seem to want to believe otherwise, I really doubt Hasbro's decisions revolve around "how will bronies react to this" as much as "how much merch will this help us sell". And no company makes decisions with the intent to reduce their fanbase and therefore make less money - whatever Hasbro-in-general think of the whole brony thing, it means a whole lot more potential customers and that's not something any right-thinking toy company will want to pass up on.

 

And it makes much more sense to use an existing brand like MLP to break into the dolls market - there's already an established fanbase, concept and characters, none of the effort or risk involved with making a brand new line they would then have to develop and promote. Hate EQG all you want, but it shouldn't be difficult to see why it exists, even just from a solely financial point of view, and the hurt feelings of (some) bronies that they dared to do something slightly different (which nobody is forcing them to watch and does not affect FiM at all) with their precious horses are likely pretty low down on Hasbro's priority list, if they even feature at all.

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If you make a new IP it may or may not succeed but the risk is high but making a spinoff of an already existing frachise has brand recognition which already gives you an audience of people who will most likely see it. It is so much easier and less expensive  to simply make humanized versions of the ponies and put them in a high school setting than come up with something else entirely to compete with similar toylines. The movie was successful of course I don't know how successful the toyline was and successful or not the dolls are UGLY.

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Interesting thought. One thing I have always wondered is, in spite of the large amount dislike for Equestria Girls from the bronies, they still make shout outs to the fans in those movies. Trying to make things better maybe? 

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This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read here.  Yes, they spent millions of dollars and put in all of the work needed to launch a new(-ish) brand entirely to spite a subset of their audience.  It couldn't possibly be that they wanted to bank on the popularity and familiarity of the characters from FiM. No, this is all an elaborate revenge from Hasbro that unexpectedly became popular with girls (girls? liking dolls? Inconceivable!) (and yes, they are fairly popular, if they weren't, they wouldn't still be making new ones two years after the the IP was revealed, as well as a third tie-in movie. Some sell better than others, but they are still selling.)

 

Ever consider that bronies aren't the be-all and end-all of the MLP franchise? 

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I think it's silly to even suggest it was made to spite Bronies. You have to remember one thing. Although the Brony community is very vocal, it is also very small when compared to the intended demographic. As was mentioned earlier, Equestria Girls is an attempt to cash in on the Monster High franchise. So far, it looks like a very successful attempt. 

 

On a related note. I watched the Monster High movie "Friday Night Frights". While not anywhere near as engaging or well written as anything MLP:FIM, it was a cute and entertaining film. Draculaura sounds a little too much like Seabreeze the Breezie though. It made the film a little odd. I enjoyed it though. The same disc has "Why do Ghouls Fall in Love?" I'll watch that soon too. Yes, I bought the two movie DVD!

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Clawdeen Wolf!

 

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I don't think EQG was made just to spite the fans. Hasbro has done questionable things in the past, but I don't think they're that mean, since they seem to love the fans. I heard when it was first announced, that it was made because of all the humanized pony art there are in the fandom.

 

I don't even think they knew the fandom would freak out to this. This was probably planned before the fandom had a lot of drama, i.e. people ranting on crap they don't like, since a season alone takes almost a year to make.

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The cast have been on record during conventions (available on YT) stating that the inspiration to create the EQG brand is also attributed to our fandom, with them noting that Hasbro was well aware of the amount of humanized MLP fan art. So no, I do not believe EQG was created to spite the Brony fanbase. 

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No, for various reasons already stated by Old King Q previously;

  1. Creating a new IP can be expensive and risks not getting it noticed. Tagging it onto an existing IP cuts the cost and gives Hasbro the better capability to advertize it.
  2. Because FIM's toyline's is one of their biggest, slapping the FIM logo on the front equals more sales and more exposure for FIM.
  3. Even though the main animated series is written as an all-ages, gender-neutral family show, Hasbro continues to treat their FIM as a "girls-only" product and treats it as such in their first-party merchandise. Equestria Girls (both the merhcandise and films) panders to that market, notably adolescent girls (the base market of EQG).
  4. They're limited releases in movie theaters as well, so they get some revenue from cinema tickets.

 

Anyway, I'm 26, a man, and I enjoyed both EQG movies, though the second is admittedly better than the first. My final answer to whether or not EQG exists to spite my people is "No", because the movies are both good, and you don't make something good to spite people.

That would be like a Derpy hater baking muffins to raise Derpy hater awareness or something. That's stupid. :eww:

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i didn´t really like any of them too much, but i don´t think a company like hasbro would put that amount of money in creating a new IP just to "spite fans of FiM"

 

actually, i don´t think any company would do that.

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"Lets do a battle!  A battle of the bands!"

 

Yah EQ was made to sell the monies and such, and little girls went

to see it but so did Bronies and they brought the tickets and gave

the Hasbro and promote the movies by talking about them....

 

So we are also part of the marketing now!

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Hasbro is far too happy to have such a huge client base to want to spite us. From their perspective we're walking wallets; why would they want to slow that cash flow by spiting us? They wanted to branch out the market, it's as simple as that. EQG can exist just fine outside of the main show canon so those who don't want to watch it can safely ignore it, even if many people do take the events to be canon.

 

From a business standpoint I think they made a smart decision by creating the franchise, and to them that's all that matters. Honestly, alienating us would hurt them significantly because unlike little girls, we control our own money.

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Cooooonsidering the creators said at a panel that they were partially inspired by humanized versions of the Mane Six in fanart, I would say quite the opposite.

 

Okay, in general, some of us need to cut the creators a Hell of a lot more slack for the amount of effort and talent they put into this show!  :okiedokielokie:

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On the contrary, I think it was made more to please fans than anything else. I remember when I saw the first EqG, what stood out to me about it despite the sub-par plot was the huge number of shout-outs to bronies. And I believe I heard somewhere that one of the directors said they were inspired to make EqG by all the humanized artwork of the FIM ponies, although I could be mistaken there. Either way, whether or not they pulled it off well is a different matter, but I thoroughly enjoyed both movies.

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This is really going into conspiracy theory territory here.

 

Hasbro might not always make the most popular decisions, but they're not stupid. Every smart company knows that it's an absolute poison to lose customers and i don't think that Hasbro wants to eliminates this fandom. While i don't think that we're Hasbros biggest money income, like many want to believe, i think it would still be really stupid to lose us as customers.

 

If you don't like EG, just ignore it. As of now, you don't need to watch both movies, to understand the real MLP series.

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Because pouring who knows how much money into making a feature long animated film while having to pay storyboard writers, animators, composers, voice actors and other people mentioned by the credits to accomplish such just to spite the super-supportive fanbase is totally an absolutely brilliant idea in the long run! :D

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