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#21 Zygen

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:20 AM

I doubt Rainbow kissed her, its just them getting their faces close together, one of them had their teeth together during any point there could've been contact, and I don't think they where on the same depth within it so even when they got close it was to the side.

 

I think its just over analysis of something like flash where errors can occur in animation all the time. Just check out "My little Pony, Mistakes are Forever". It will show you how often random unintended stuff happens that means nothing.

 

I have nothing against homosexuality, and I'm all for Hasbro if they support it, but I don't think this was a sign of their support, more just misinterpretation and over analysis, kinda like the Fluttershy thing with "I'm Gay". 

 

Nothing against Flutterdash ship either, just it wasn't the reason this happened, or what was even happening.

 

Maybe I'll go rewatch the episode some, but I think its an over analysis from the times I've seen it.




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#22 Silver Letter

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:43 AM

There was no kiss whatsoever in the scene. If you watch it, you would notice that Rainbow Dash helps Fluttershy up. That is all.



#23 Forlong

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

1. Here's the deal tho. We're talking about a fictional show where ponies' physical attributes, that include mane and tail, are based on actual ponies and horses. There's no real need to get so overly technical about this. You're basically saying "because she has a long tail is more evidence she's heterosexual, else she'd have a short tail because that would make her faster" but thing is, if that really was such a thing, she'd have more trouble reaching Mach 10. Prolly never would've to begin with.

 

2. Here's the deal tho. RD's never been shown to care a great deal about attracting potential romantic interests. I doubt she keeps her tail long to look more beautiful for anyone.

 

3. The stereotype I refer to is "females keep long hair, males keep short hair." Again, you're overthinking things.

1: The fact is that there is drag from long tails.  At the speed most horses run, it's negligable, but the drag gets worse as she goes faster.  What reason is there for her to grow out that detriment?

 

2: So what?  I'm currently not persuing any relationship possibilities; that doesn't mean my orientation has changed.  And low tails are more common in mares than stallions, thus growing a tail out is an attempt to get male attention.  She also has no problem with wearing a dress, looking pretty, or dancing with a guy.  Those all generate male attention, which lesbians don't want.

 

3: In that case, it is a trend.  I checked and found that mares and fillies tended to have longer tails than stallions and colts.  There are exceptions, but why isn't Rainbow Dash one of them?  As I said, it is a detriment to her carier goals.  I looked at evidence in the show to come to my conclusions.  Stallions have shown to generally be more interested in physical beauty than mares.

 

Circumstantial evidence is better than no evidence.  There is nothing indicated that Rainbow is homosexual.  I'm not doing this to ruin all the FlutterDash fanfics, just reccognizing that the assumption that she's gay is based on steriotypes.  She's a tomboy that likes rainbows, so she must be gay, right?

 

I was looking at it from a psychological point of view.  There are several behavior trends in homosexuals, and the subtle route was the best chance at getting a real answer.

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#24 hawkflame

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

1: Rainbow Dash isn't a race horse running at 70 km/h.  She's a pegusi flying at frickin' mach 10.  Drag is a huge issue at this high speed.

2: I didn't say femininity, I said beauty.  How many mares on the show have short tails, and how many stallions have long tails?  And the show has twice shown that long tails are a standard of beauty, in the first episode and in Ponyville Confidential.

3: It's not a stereotype, it's science.  Males tend to be more visually stimulated than women, and the ponies in this show follow that pattern.  It's clearly seen in Sonic Rainboom.

 

Here's the thing:  There are plenty of long haired, feminine women who are lesbians, and so the idea that she woudl keep her tail that way only to attract stallions doesn't necessarily hold up.

 

I agree with the sentiment that there is no proof that she is a lesbian, but tail length doesn't really demonstrate anything here.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:11 PM

Here's the thing:  There are plenty of long haired, feminine women who are lesbians, and so the idea that she woudl keep her tail that way only to attract stallions doesn't necessarily hold up.

 

I agree with the sentiment that there is no proof that she is a lesbian, but tail length doesn't really demonstrate anything here.

But none of them are pegusi racing at mach 5, are they?  It isn't the fact that she has a long tail, but that she has a long tail despite it being a liability.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:15 PM

I really doubt the writers could have actually put that there.

 

As a huge flutterdash fan, I really don't think there was anything in that scene, sure people could argue of that sound effect of what appears to be a kissing sound, but who knows, maybe that was by accident.

 

Then again, I WOULD love if this was cannon, however, since this is intentionally for little girls besides bronies, this can't be purely possible.  



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:05 PM

But none of them are pegusi racing at mach 5, are they?  It isn't the fact that she has a long tail, but that she has a long tail despite it being a liability.

 

But there are other reasons why she could keep it that way.  She could just like how it looks.  Maybe she likes the visual flair it gives when she's doing her tricks.  Rainbow isn't *all* about speed, but also style and coolness factor too.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:21 PM

Idon't htink it was an actual kiss, jsut a sound effect of Fluttershy being picked up.

 

But if you really wanted a pic of them kissing....

 

here's a couple wink.png (no pun intended)(I have more lol)

 

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#29 websterhamster

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:29 PM

I seriously LOL'd when I saw the comments about stereotypes. It's a TV show for little girls for heaven's sakes!!! Of course they're going to use stereotypes, there wouldn't be a point if you had to rationalize something. In TV shows, especially in animated ones, they rely heavily on stereotypes to convey messages about stuff, especially personality.

 

All the evidence shows that MLP:FiM makes a lot of use of stereotypes about everything; why would this be the only place where stereotypes were abandoned because

There are plenty of long haired, feminine women who are lesbians

 

 

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My response to this: After watching the clip, it obviously is NOT a kiss, nor is it even possible (their snouts were never that close to each other). And I don't think the devs would put that sort of stuff in anyway, not for their targeted demographic. They do have a rating to maintain, you know.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:16 AM

But there are other reasons why she could keep it that way.  She could just like how it looks.  Maybe she likes the visual flair it gives when she's doing her tricks.  Rainbow isn't *all* about speed, but also style and coolness factor too.

I can conciede to that possibility, though her wanting a bit of male attention is the most likely reason I think.  Since we couldn't go with the obvious method of knowing her orientation, we have to go by circumstantial evidence.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:22 AM

No, I do not think it was meant to be romantic at all. It really gets on my nerves when people immediately judge a kiss as a romantic gesture, because it doesn't have to be! Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy are just best friends that care about each other, and Rainbow was just showing how caring she is by kissing her on the nose. It was only meant to be a sweet moment between two friends! There's no need to over-analyse it! dry.png

Besides, I know a lot of people nowadays that kiss their friends. It's perfectly normal for them to do that, and they're not in love, are they?



#32 Thunderstorm

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:28 AM

Okay okay okay, this is definitely NO kiss. I find it HIGHLY unlikely they'd ever put something like that in a kids show.. And it's happened before with other ponies, yet the second it happens with Rainbow Dash everyone says "IT'S A KISS!" I just find that a bit funny.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:38 AM

It wasn't really a romantic kiss or a kiss at all. Usually, the kiss would have to have meaning to it and a reason behind it but it did come out of nowhere after all. So, not a real kiss.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

Really? NO support for the cuteness??

Okay, I'll just say a few more things:

I know there's no frame where their lips actually touch. Like I said, plausible deniability. Look at their expressions frame by frame.

 

As for the context isn't it kind of odd that there was a scene in the middle of a battle that was just the two of them interacting? And there was no real reason for her to pick Fluttershy up like that. She wasn't injured or anything.

 

No, I do not think it was meant to be romantic at all. It really gets on my nerves when people immediately judge a kiss as a romantic gesture, because it doesn't have to be! Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy are just best friends that care about each other, and Rainbow was just showing how caring she is by kissing her on the nose. It was only meant to be a sweet moment between two friends! There's no need to over-analyse it! img-1620031-1-dry.png

Besides, I know a lot of people nowadays that kiss their friends. It's perfectly normal for them to do that, and they're not in love, are they?

True but Raimbow Dash isn't especially comfortable with affection. I really doubt she'd kiss friends in a platonic way.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:14 AM

Really? NO support for the cuteness??

Okay, I'll just say a few more things:

I know there's no frame where their lips actually touch. Like I said, plausible deniability. Look at their expressions frame by frame.

 

As for the context isn't it kind of odd that there was a scene in the middle of a battle that was just the two of them interacting? And there was no real reason for her to pick Fluttershy up like that. She wasn't injured or anything.

 

True but Raimbow Dash isn't especially comfortable with affection. I really doubt she'd kiss friends in a platonic way.

You are right about that, but I think Rainbow Dash does an affectionate heart deep down. She just covers it up behind her bold and brave image. 



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Posted 01 August 2013 - 05:55 AM

Although I'm completely against the idea that it matters, it's true that this would be one of the first kid's shows that would include homosexuality. It would get a lot of attention, and all publicity is good publicity.






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