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Does it ever feel like you have no voice on the forums?

Sterling Crimson

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I wish I could just vent... and I really need to vent now. So... here goes.

 

I don't know if it's just me, but it just seems like my voice is just really small around here, practically mute. I think it applies everywhere I go, whether it's at a church, or at my university. You ever noticed that every time you try to say something, that nobody actually heard you say it? Or that if someone did indeed hear you, that you were ignored, as if you weren't even there?

 

Let's start with forum threads. Whether you try to promote yourself or something you made or contribute to a thread, what happens? Most of the time, there's no response. Either that, or people are replying to other people's posts and ignoring the fact that other people have opinions on here. It's annoying to say the least. The point of a thread's to place your opinion so that people can hear it. That's why I'm often so lazy to post at all around here. Where's my voice?

 

Even as I'm typing this post, hosting the World Cup, or even participating in a roleplay, what happens? People ignore everything I say. I want people involved not just with myself, but with the things I made. I want them to enjoy (or begin something enjoyable) the forums, and I want to add to the experience. But what ends up happening... is that no ones want to even try. What's the point of trying to make the forums a better place if no one actually wants to try?

 

Finally, let's go to private messages. You message someone, but you don't get much of a reply at all. Either that, or the person read the message and doesn't even bother replying. Or even worse, the person NEVER READ THE MESSAGE. Why is it so difficult to just say, "HEY I'M BUSY! Let's talk later Ok?!" Why is it so difficult to respond to a proposition to make the forums a better place? Why is it so hard to maintain friendships and messaging threads if all that ends is your voice being mute?

All that... is the reason I never start threads anymore. All that is the reason why I was actually reluctant to host the World Cup in the first place. All that is the reason I never start roleplays. And all that is the reason I never want to start another PMing group again. Because at the end of the day, my voice... is mute. Hell, I don't even think anyone will see the blog post. That's how pessimistic I feel whenever I want to organize something here or anywhere else.

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You're not doing things in the right order.

 

It goes like this:

 

Make friends > Get Popular > Make Popular Threads

 

Not like what you're trying to do, which is something more like;

 

Make Popular Threads > Get Popular > Make friends.

 

It just won't work out if you do it like that.

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You're not doing things in the right order.

 

It goes like this:

 

Make friends > Get Popular > Make Popular Threads

 

Not like what you're trying to do, which is something more like;

 

Make Popular Threads > Get Popular > Make friends.

 

It just won't work out if you do it like that.

Lol. So you're saying that no one's entitled to contribute to the forums unless you made friends? Some people just don't have those resources even if they tried their damndest.

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Lol. So you're saying that no one's entitled to contribute to the forums unless you made friends? Some people just don't have those resources even if they tried their damndest.

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to try, I'm just saying that you'll fail. If you don't have the resources, acquire them, or you're going to fail. The world doesn't feel pity or have mercy. There is no 'I'm inadequate so bail me out' route where you get free popularity.

 

My model doesn't just apply to the forums, it applies to life, except it goes more like this;

 

Make Friends (In Important Positions)/Networking > Work > Success (Both metaphorical and literal)

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I'm not saying that you're not entitled to try, I'm just saying that you'll fail.

 

My model doesn't just apply to the forums, it applies to life, except it goes more like this;

 

Make Friends (In Important Positions)/Networking > Work > Success

What a sad world we live in then. Bribery and corruption abound with that methodology of yours.

 

Here's my model I try to live by:

Make friends of all statuses > Think of some idea to allow all to be involved > Manifest the idea and announce it > See everyone happy > Success.

 

It doesn't always work, but at least I know I've made people's lives better. What irks me is that people who want to be made happier don't want to try it.

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What a sad world we live in then. Bribery and corruption abound with that methodology of yours.

 

Here's my model I try to live by:

Make friends of all statuses > Think of some idea to allow all to be involved > Manifest the idea and announce it > See everyone happy > Success.

 

It doesn't always work, but at least I know I've made people's lives better. What irks me is that people who want to be made happier don't want to try it.

Actually, bribery and corruption are in your model, too. The reason for this is that things that make one person happy might make another miserable. Life is not as simple as you make it out to be.

 

The likelihood of pleasing everybody you're trying to make happy, forget everybody as a whole, is close to 0%.

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Actually, bribery and corruption are in your model, too. The reason for this is that things that make one person happy might make another miserable. Life is not as simple as you make it out to be.

I already considered the corruption in my model, at the point where I have to find some way to manifest and announce the idea. But yours is more suspect to it because all you need are nice contacts and you can get anywhere you want with your agendas. With my model, at least the idea itself may not be placed under hold for corruption. It would depend on the person either being one of conviction or one of pragmatism.

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I already considered the corruption in my model, at the point where I have to find some way to manifest and announce the idea. But yours is more suspect to it because all you need are nice contacts and you can get anywhere you want with your agendas. With my model, at least the idea itself may not be placed under hold for corruption. It would depend on the person either being one of conviction or one of pragmatism.

Unfortunately, your model is based on wishful thinking, and mine isn't what I hold myself to, it's what I've observed as the world itself running on.

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Unfortunately, your model is based on wishful thinking, and mine isn't what I hold myself to, it's what I've observed as the world itself running on.

Better to try and make a difference to the world like Tesla did with electricity than to follow the world and make it worse.

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Better to try and make a difference to the world like Tesla did with electricity than to follow the world and make it worse.

You do realize Tesla died without ever achieving his dream, right?

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You do realize Tesla died without ever achieving his dream, right?

Yes I do, but at least he tried, and that in itself, I find noble. I never said it had to be achieved, but at least I gave the effort, and I feel better about the whole rant thanks :)

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Yes I do, but at least he tried, and that in itself, I find noble. I never said it had to be achieved, but at least I gave the effort, and I feel better about the whole rant thanks :)

>Complains passive aggressively about stupid meaningless things without putting the effort in to correct the problems.

 

>Is confused when people don't like him

 

>Is told how to fix his problems

 

>Still doesn't

 

>Is still confused why people don't like him

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>Complains passive aggressively about stupid meaningless things without putting the effort in to correct the problems.

 

>Is confused when people don't like him

 

>Is told how to fix his problems

 

>Still doesn't

 

>Is still confused why people don't like him

>Person never said people don't like him

 

>Person never wondered why people don't like him 

 

>Person understands that not everyone will like him

 

>Person only wanted people to be involved with forum events to enjoy forum experience 

 

>Replier missed the point and made incorrect assumptions.

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>Person never said people don't like him

 

>Person never wondered why people don't like him 

 

>Person understands that not everyone will like him

 

>Person only wanted people to be involved with forum events to enjoy forum experience 

 

>Replier missed the point and made incorrect assumptions.

I know you didn't, I'm just pointing out the reason you don't get replies is that you don't say things worth replying to. I'm not saying you can't, just that you don't.

 

You can't enjoy the forum experience unless you actually try to make good posts. Whether it's because they're funny, insightful, or otherwise, you need to post with some kind of good trait.

 

Pouting in a blog post can only do so much.

 

I'd also like to point out that there are people much less popular than you who don't complain half as much as you do.

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I know you didn't, I'm just pointing out the reason you don't get replies is that you don't say things worth replying to. I'm not saying you can't, just that you don't.

 

You can't enjoy the forum experience unless you actually try to make good posts. Whether it's because they're funny, insightful, or otherwise, you need to post with some kind of good trait.

 

Pouting in a blog post can only do so much.

 

I'd also like to point out that there are people much less popular than you who don't complain half as much as you do.

I'd also like to point out that I'm representing all those less popular people who have been holding this view for quite a while.

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I'd also like to point out that I'm representing all those less popular people who have been holding this view for quite a while.

That doesn't change the fact that your group of failed attention spongers doesn't include the less-popular users who are actually just interested in posting.

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Uh, I don't have a large voice here and I could care less. I'm posting. That's good enough. I have friends. Good enough.

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That doesn't change the fact that your group of failed attention spongers doesn't include the less-popular users who are actually just interested in posting.

I will stop this name calling since I instigated it. I already have loads of attention at my university because of my musical abilities thank you very much. I even got featured at my university's website for excellence in biology and music. So why would I need the attention of people I'll never see face to face in my life?

 

In technicality, my World Cup thread did perfectly fine with averages of 70+ votes throughout the qualifying stages. I'm just saying... if I give you an opportunity to shine through a visual contest, take hold of the opportunity. It helps you feel like you're a part of the forum, and it helps me because I know that people are participating. Is this so hard to grasp?

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I will stop this name calling since I instigated it. I already have loads of attention at my university because of my musical abilities thank you very much. I even got featured at my university's website for excellence in biology and music. So why would I need the attention of people I'll never see face to face in my life?

 

So where exactly is the disagreement between us?

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On a more serious note I get what your saying, and I get what harmy is saying. 

 

Really and truly it should be that people shouldn't need to gain popularity through befriending popular people, or not necessarily popularity, but just being relevant even, but unfortunately alot of the time harmy is right in that in order to be relevant sometimes you simply have to be popular in some form or fashion, usually through others who are popular for one reason or another.

 

Of course i think people do read others responses, maybe they just don't always reply.

 

Theres also the fact that sometimes people just don't want to read through multiple pages of posts in a thread, which I really don't even blame them for.

 

Heck I post really long posts all the time, which i'm sure many just give up on reading after a while.

 

But in the end it really doesn't bother me that much, I've just learned to not worry to much about popularity or anything, I guess I use to be "Popular" due to my obsessive amount of posting I use to do here, which is nice, but I find that it tends to bring with it this sense of obligation and if your not careful it can consume you to the point where your no longer posting for fun or for any purpose, but to simply keep your popularity and status.

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