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Empathy, it's a good thing


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Dear people of the world, Not everything is up for debate. Sometimes you need to just shut up, listen, and attempt to empathize.

 

Example:

I am on a public chat with some fellow activists. A young woman tells a story about aggressive cat calling, and how it makes her uncomfortable when she walks home. Another couple women agrees in the chat, some even telling stories about being punched for saying no, and a couple even reporting being raped. I tell the story about how my dog protected me from being sexually assaulted. Most of the guys in the chat have been understanding and supportive, except for one guy. He says the same tired things like 'what were you wearing?', 'Maybe you misunderstood?', and 'See, now you shouldn't have said THAT, that's where the issue is'.

 

When we tell him 'No, don't play devils advocate, don't pick this subject apart, we aren't asking for it to be picked apart. We are speaking of about, and sharing our real life experiences.' and even most of the guys are saying the same thing. This guy shouts 'that's the problem with you f***ing feminists, you don't want to debate!' and leaves the chat.

 

Here's the thing, not every subject requires a debate. Not everyone wants to validate themselves every time they try and express they are upset. When it comes to things like assault, battery, pain, racism, sexism, able-ism, sometimes people just want you to listen and support them.

 

There seems to be a prevalence in our culture that debate is always good, and always needed, and if you somehow disagree that 'dude, now is not the time to pick apart someones rape story.' you are accused of ‘shutting down discussion’. Not everything is a discussion.

 

Sometimes, debate is the best way to go. I personally love a good debate. But I know when the mood isn't right, and when the topic is just not one that should be picked apart, especially if people are upset. Sometimes people just want you to listen and support them.

 

People seriously need to work on their listening skills, and learn to just shut the hell up, and learn some damn empathy.

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This is very much the reason I would advise that such personal conversations happen in private. Sharing upsetting experiences in public with strangers is risky. Especially in groups where you don't know who's going to turn up. At least here we have the Life Advice section and I don't recall seeing people play Devil's Advocate there (not sure if it's visible/accessible to you yet. It's just below Cloudsdale Colosseum).

 

People can be assholes and it's only going to take one or two to ruin your day. I know that all too well.

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Maybe you need to empathize with those who can't... JUST KIDDING! :)

 

I know how frustrating it is when people won't empathize (yet one does), but some people are just assholes. In my experience, I've learned that sometimes is just better to let them win the argument even if they're not right... I do this because arguing with someone who is not open-minded and non-rational is really boring, plus, I know that I'll never convice this kind of people to change their point of view, so I don't want to waste my time: 

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I understand that very well, I have just recently been denied from someone I considered a good friend here on the forums of support or comfort :(

 

It is important to provide people who have had to go through things, be it verbal assault or rape, they will need comfort and support. Debating will most likely only make them think that they are at blame and should not feel bad for themselves, which is quite wrong. 

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It wasn't on here, just to be clear. It was on a different forum for social issues.
Some people just want to be heard, and to have someone support them. This woman was just scared, and looking for support, and most people, both male and female were there for her. I think some people forget that not everyone wants their experiences turned into a soap box for someone else. Some people are so into being right, they forget the human element. 
I haven't had issues with people on here though. Most people are pretty polite and nice on this forum, even when there is a disagreement. 

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