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Why Pessimism is Annoying [OPINION]


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So I didn't have that much time to do a weekly blog yesterday, so I'm rushing today to do it now. Anyway, this is probably going to another "top X rants". Comments are still open, so feel free to give feedback. I might get a bit more fierce on this blog post, especially since I'm touching onto something I always had in my mind.


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"Humans are genocidal bastards." "The world is cruel and horrible." "Everything's gone to waste." "We deserve to die."

 

Really, it's this kind of sentiment that just infuriates me. I'm not always a person that's half glass full, but pessimism is just...how about I just make reasons on why I just dislike pessimism? (To be fair, I don't completely dislike pessimism, but I dislike how it's become to modern society.) That's something that people might understand more easily.

 

10. It paints idealism or optimism as reactionary, delusional, or childish.

 

It's pretty much part of the philosophy itself; pessimism deliberately shuts off anything that is the slightest bit positive and assumes that anyone who is willing to be positive is stupid and evidently ignorant, which is hardly the case. Now, I know that optimism likes the paint pessimists as edgy, whiny teenagers who do nothing but complain, but really pessimism will tend to stand to their point while optimism...hardly as much.

 

9. It's become more emotional than philosophical.

 

As it mostly turns out, pessimists usually happen to be the people that are battling disillusionment, depression, or stress. It's a reasonable sentiment to have, but it's turned from something that is addressing future views into practically the only way to cope with their problems. This is not saying that people should stop being depressed or stressed – both work out well as long as they do not prolong – but they should actually attempt to seek help.

 

Honestly, what's more exhausting to listen to pessimistic talk online and in real life is the realization that they are doing nothing to help their problems. It's not hard to call for a counselor, psychologist, teacher, or even family and friends. If you're deliberately locking yourself from these people and not trying to push away the problem, and rather use pessimism as a coping device, it's only going to get worse.

 

8. It further pushes people away.

 

As much as pessimism may have some basis in it, being pessimistic just discourages others to stay away from you and it might just worsen your situation even more, especially if you're trying to actually trying to feel better. The truth is that other people aren't going to readily understand why you act the way you are, and if you're acting depressed and angered and hateful, you're more likely to repel people away instead of people asking you what's wrong. And if you don't repel them away, they'll become as negative as you are.

 

The world does not revolve around you. If you want people to actually help you, you search for help yourself, not wait for it. People will like you more if you act a bit more pleasant instead of dismissive. Emotions really can spread if you put in the effort.

 

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7. It becomes increasingly close-minded (in some cases).

 

When everything sucks from your perspective, it becomes harder to pay attention to the world outside, possibly more so than optimism does. This is a case I have frequent seen with certain forum posters, mostly when they're talking about something outside of MLP, whether it's the Debate Pit, General Discussion, or Life Advice. Rather than take time to delve into those ideas or mindsets, they jump into negativity by default instead of asking questions or finding solutions.

 

People should stop and take a few minutes to think before they post, so at the very least your pessimism (or optimism) doesn't completely get in the way of your reasoning or logic.

 

6. It's just as likely to turn into a "not my fault" mindset.

 

People like to say how optimism always see the best even after a problem has hit, believing it can be better and that it isn't necessarily their fault. Well, pessimism does the same thing through a different process: you paint yourself as somehow better than all these other scumbags, so something that happens that doesn't go your way is automatically not your fault either. It's just...ironic.

 

5. It's become an excuse to give up rather than stay determined.

 

No, that's not an Undertale reference there. I really mean it. Pessimism makes it more likely for people to stop risk-taking or persist for a problem and just give up not long after they have started. You'll likely push off the solution while others would work harder and possibly gain more success. I don't think "work hard and you will succeed" completely holds true all the time and even to every person, but it's certainly not a reason to stop trying.

 

4. It's become a way to complain.

 

While pessimism and other philosophies were meant for people to critically think for themselves, it has mostly degenerated into a way for people to just complain about things rather than actually address the problems. There are probably better ways to spend your time whining – hard work might not guarantee you success but it is always better than doing nothing and possibly getting fired for complaining around.

 

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3. It's "intellectual".

 

Pessimism has just become a way for people to claim that they're automatically more "intellectual" than others. Because being negative somehow makes you smarter than all these bigoted dumbasses out there. This is something I can hardly put up with from some pessimists; they place themselves on a higher pedestal with their edgy, put-down statements, and probably don't need to show that much evidence or proof of their intellect. After all, they are pessimistic.

 

2. It's become a put-down strategy.

 

Pessimism had turned from expressing negative ideas into shoving people's throats for not following it, going as far as becoming a bullying technique and pointing out how "X won't work" or "Y is useless", and many more put-down phrases. This is completely unacceptable in my books; there's a difference between putting down someone else's ideas and insulting them and offering constructive criticism. Some "pessimists" even find doing this fun. Really, it's very jarring to me to see how so many of them like to complain about their lives or society or whatever, when they're being part of the problem as well.

 

And finally...

 

1. It's being plastered as "realism".

 

No, it's not realism.

 

Placing your negative sentiments onto things is not realism. Realism doesn't automatically jump to the negative nor the positive; it searches for reasons...in a logical way, with evidence to back it up. This site gives a good justification why the two are completely different. There's even a nice quote that concludes it: "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails".

 

Claiming that drinking and driving will get you killed because you can't focus on the road is not pessimism, it's realism. Likewise, saying that humanity deserves to die is not realism, it's pessimism.

 

BONUS: Pessimism is basically connected to defeatism.

 

Because you practically place no hope in anything. The former is based off being negative; the other is complete resignation and saying "screw it, I'll let it happen". Over the years, some Americans, especially the younger ones, have been so deeply ingrained into the two they have turned apathetic and dismissive. I mean, if you're not intending to improve the situation, how are you going to expect things to get better?

 

Really, if people stagnate, it's not because they're cruel and war-mongering, it'll be because of extreme pessimism itself and the apathy that spawns from it.

 

Screw it.

 

I rather be the one that says "the glass has water" or even "the glass is half full" rather than the one that says "the glass is half empty".

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I base things on evidence. Sometimes that evidence points into the low probability of success or the high probability into something that is going to happen that is unfavorable. I don't do things based upon "hope" I do them based upon evidence.

 

So yes, I'm a realist. I go based upon what the cards are pointing to.

 

I also disagree with your first point. In my experience just as many optimistic people will stand to their point as pessimistic. I have a brother in law who can't see the bad in anything even if it's laid out to him. Both pessimism and optimism have a level of accepted ignorance and both have a level of stubbornness.

 

In fact a lot of your points could be applied to optimism as well...

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True.  There's nothing wrong with being optimistic, it doesn't mean you're blind to reality, you're just hopeful and are willing to try your best with a smile.

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I base things on evidence. Sometimes that evidence points into the low probability of success or the high probability into something that is going to happen that is unfavorable. I don't do things based upon "hope" I do them based upon evidence.

 

So yes, I'm a realist. I go based upon what the cards are pointing to.

 

I also disagree with your first point. In my experience just as many optimistic people will stand to their point as pessimistic. I have a brother in law who can't see the bad in anything even if it's laid out to him. Both pessimism and optimism have a level of accepted ignorance and both have a level of stubbornness.

 

In fact a lot of your points could be applied to optimism as well...

 

That was something I already noted, but I felt like it much more evident on the pessimistic side than the optimistic one, mostly because there are much more pessimists than the latter, and it tends to turn up more often in the younger generation.

 

It's probably me, though; I tend to see far more pessimists, and probably the tiring side of it. It just gets annoying when people use pessimism, call it "realism", and plaster themselves as self-righteous, and you somehow have to be "smarter" to understand their perspective. It's just insulting.

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That was something I already noted, but I felt like it much more evident on the pessimistic side than the optimistic one, mostly because there are much more pessimists than the latter, and it tends to turn up more often in the younger generation.

 

It's probably me, though; I tend to see far more pessimists, and probably the tiring side of it. It just gets annoying when people use pessimism, call it "realism", and plaster themselves as self-righteous, and you somehow have to be "smarter" to understand their perspective. It's just insulting.

 

No offense but the same can be said about all of your reasoning:

 

  • For 10, optimism a lot of the time is being blindly hopeful when history tells us we should be skeptical about something. It's like how people keep buying Bethesda games on consoles assuming they will eventually not make them buggy, long loading or poor quality but are fooled every time. If I stick my hand in and get bit three times, I should be skeptical about sticking it in the 4th time.
  • For 9, optimism a lot of the time comes out of being emotional too. Like people who love Nintendo love them so much they will deny any and all faults they have.
  • For 8, optimism can push people away too. I for one find it annoying to be around someone who is so overly optimistic to the point of absurdity and ignoring what history taught them. My brother in law is so optimistic about stuff and a good chunk of the time it bites him in the ass. On top of that optimism is used to dismiss criticisms that may be valid. How many times have I seen someone say I'm just being a negative nancy for pointing out a very valid criticism? A lot. So many people tell me to just "enjoy it for what it is" and to ignore flaws. Optimism can be equally annoying.
  • For 7, a lot of optimists close their minds to the idea that something could suck to the point of flat out denial. Look at Nintendo fans.
  • For 6, many optimists do the same thing...
  • For 5, optimism can be just as damaging as it's often used as an excuse to never try and execute change. Instead just love everything the exact way it is and ignore something failing. Like I said, look at Nintendo fans. They are content with the Wii U only selling 13 million units even though it's bringing Nintendo down as a business.
  • For 4, optimism has become a way to dismiss complaints.
  • For 3, that's probably the only one I will give you. I've never had an optimists try to act like he was smarter than me for being optimistic, but I HAVE had many of them tell me I'm stupid for not being optimistic.
  • For 2, people put people down for not being optimistic too. "Well you're just a negative nancy" or "well you're just trying not to like it!"
  • For 1, optimism tries to claim to be realistic as well. :\

Literally all the things you hate about pessimism can be applied to optimism.

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Much of my pessimism is reserved for politics and the common folk but when it comes to technological progress, that's where I am optimistic -- essentially topics that will bore you to death. I am in favor of phasing out fossil fuel to have it replaced with an arsenal of hydro-electricity, biomass, nuclear, geothermal, wave, wind and solar with energy storage to cover for the intermittency issues. The good news is that there is an increasingly attractive business case for wind, solar and storage and because of that, the opinions of the ignorant masses are largely (but not completely -- but if only) irrelevant. Most people cannot be bothered to think about things too much, especially when it's something far removed from their vision. Instead they would prefer bite-sized pieces of info -- regardless of their actual validity -- that fit snugly into their web of "facts". Though I suppose if I can just wave banknotes in front of people's faces to get them to understand why something is in their best interest or use national security as a talking point then I suppose that could be sufficient as it bypasses the issue climate change -- you know, that piece of science people reject because some pundit said so.

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No offense but the same can be said about all of your reasoning: 

 

(Sorry for not responding earlier, I don't always notice posts.)

 

I'm not completely advocating for blind optimism either but you make fair points and indeed some things that could be said about pessimism can be said about optimism. It's just my glaring bias; I see much more pessimists than optimists where I am from...except that pessimism isn't coming from actually being poor, depressed, abused, or some other real problem but is deliberately being used to justify their own ideas and morals because "Boohoo! Nobody understands me!" A few "optimists" do that as well (just look at Christian fundementalists who preach for bigotry, homophobia, and xenophobia behind the mask of optimism), but more recently people online like to play the "depressed, poor, edgy, special snowflake university student" card to push their agendas.

 

It almost feels like seeing black and red OCs coming to life. I've met people who deliberately deny evidence, let alone compromise through the mask of pessimism and sad life stories. That should have been something I added: Pessimism and optimism has been far too overused to justify ideological and "moralistic" behavior.

 

That's why I had decided to stop posting on the Orlando shooting topic altogether. Three pages in and rather than people calmly talking out on how to deal with Muslim extremists it became a fire pit of deciding whether "Islamophobia is racist". Only a few like Twiggy actually debated in a civilized manner. Debate should be a time where opposing views come together and people talk it out, not people throwing around moralistic crap and plastering labels onto people.

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