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An example of my reasoning process.


Lil Pip

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I am not sure if I have made a fallacy(logical mistake) or not. Hm.

 

The potential fallacy was that religions having the probability to do evil in small amounts and consistently, means its bad. I realize SJWs do a similar logic when arguing that all men are potential rapists thus all men are bad and owe women. This is the second time I noticed the fallacy but last time was too busy or tired to remember to catch myself.

 

But then I remember the research I did and can't help but think I am right. When SJWs do this sorta fallacy their opinions can sometimes contradict research.

 

Hm, I guess it is heavy handed and I could try finding more specific reasons.

 

In which case, I should clarify. Like how Islam would not be doing suicide bombings if their religion did not say death in battle with the enemy would cause them to go to heaven and get 72 virgins. Because they wouldn't be suicidal, they would try other forms of attack. And their whole Isis violence is entirely related to that line(and others from their holy book).

 

So how do we even solve this?

 

Also you know how people hate on homosexuals more who are christian, as compared to hating on shellfish? Is it because they simply do not understand homosexuals, but they understand shellfish is tasty? How can they pick and choose? How can anyone pick and choose? Idk I just find it dishonest, but more on topic, would they still hate homosexuals (the ones that do) if their bible did not say so?

 

I would need to find an article on how much agnostics or atheists are homophobic or such. Hm https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/2fqlgz/nonreligious_homophobia/

 

So it might be a culture problem. But I need to see a community comparison to be sure that religion isn't doing more of it. Either way seems like the appeal to tradition fallacy might be the cause for homophobia (this is why I emphasize logic, poor logic is ignorance which can harm).

 

Studies so far are saying the homophobic are more likely to be gay.
Here it is http://pitweb.pitzer.edu/academics/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2014/12/FAC-Zuckerman-Sociology-Compass.pdfatheists are less homophobic.

 

So I guess I did not make a mistake.

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Grammar police: "it's" not "its".

Maybe people are naturally homophobic and religion just reflects that. You have to be careful when blaming religion for cultural behavior. I don't see your point on logic. If a person believes in their religion, and the religion says homosexuality is wrong, then logic dictates that people behave in response. The problem is the fundamental belief in the religion. You can ask them why they hate homosexuals and they will say it is because their religion says so. To modern, western people, they get to a point where they say, "I don't care what the Bible says, I just can't bring myself to hate someone." But Islam hasn't reached that point.

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Grammar police: "it's" not "its".

Maybe people are naturally homophobic and religion just reflects that. You have to be careful when blaming religion for cultural behavior. I don't see your point on logic. If a person believes in their religion, and the religion says homosexuality is wrong, then logic dictates that people behave in response. The problem is the fundamental belief in the religion. You can ask them why they hate homosexuals and they will say it is because their religion says so. To modern, western people, they get to a point where they say, "I don't care what the Bible says, I just can't bring myself to hate someone." But Islam hasn't reached that point.

One relevant thing is how shellfish and wearing more than one cloth type at a time they say is sinful also. Shellfish because of disease likely, but we don't see people doing that sort of stuff, yet the religious are still more homophobic. Perhaps its because they can point fingers to other people instead of feeling like they are the bad ones, and then it might be because of logic issues more than religion. But then that still doesn't address say Isis, or people who literally fear their kids are going to hell when they turn out to be gay and stuff. Its hard to pin-point exactly why, but it can't help but be explained at least partially that religion(abrahamic faiths in this case) causes it.

 

And yeah 'modern' western people. Not all of them are modern, but even then some religious homophobia still exists like the WBC and probably more. Depends on how you define modern. http://www.pewforum.org/2016/05/12/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/And there seems to be more homophobia than explained from the non-modern explanation. We would expect figures near like 5% or something not close to 50%.

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