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Fame and Misfortune: A critique of a critique


Kyoshi Frost Wolf

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I just watched a critique of Fame and Misfortune, an episode I hate. This is that video:

This person didn't like the episode either, but instead of focusing on the episode's real problems like the terrible writing, bad characterizations, bringing up stuff that makes no sense, he mainly brought up and chastised the one thing the episode kinda has going for it, the message. The message of accepting yourself despite your flaws. He didn't like that at all. Opinions are opinions but..what? He basically said that if someone has flaws, no matter what they are, they should work on improving them, even though it is never that simple. He feels that the song within the episode and the message that it says is actually dangerous, since it 'encourages accepting your flaws instead of fixing them.' What if they can't be fixed? For a lot different people, that's the case. Should they just be alienated and treated like lesser humans because of their flaws? Is all of life a giant race to human perfection within oneself? He does bring up the point that if someone is an asshole, they should not be encouraged to stay as an asshole, but good people have problems too, some of which are not able to be magically fixed. If that were the case, then I would be a lot different of a person than who I am right now, I probably wouldn't be a failure! But even with my own flaws, many of which I just cannot seem to overcome because of mental damage that I didn't ask for, I know I am not a terrible person. His view of seeing this moral makes it seem like if you are not actively pursuing improvement on everything that is wrong with you, then you are doing something wrong and I cannot accept that as a viewpoint. Life isn't some montage from Rocky. Everyone is different, everyone's situation is different and everyone's brain works in different ways. This is all a shame too, because I was hoping he would tear the episode apart for what it truly does wrong, but instead his main focus was...the positive message. I mean, damn. He used the Rainbow Rocks bit where Sunset is singing about how her past is the past and all that, he said that is a good way to go about it, because she is saying that she will 'improve herself' but that is 1. Extremely vague and 2. Not indicative of every person on the planet. Hell, even in Fame and Misfortune's blundered delivery, that doesn't apply. Sunset Shimmer is not Fluttershy. They are two different characters, or two different people, with their own quirks and shortcomings. That doesn't make them bad, at least not in Flutter's case. He said that self-acceptance morals are okay if they are about things like your sexuality or your race, but is THAT where the line is drawn? What if you were born with some metal defect, one you didn't ask for and one that you can't fix through sheer will, is that applicable or no? Does that person automatically become bad because they want to accept that they have a flaw? By the logic he applies, that is how it feels. This entire time as well, it really comes across as if the person making the video is assuming that if he can work on his own flaws, that simply means that every other human being is in a similar situation as he is. Which goes back the SUnset Shimmer thing. Not everyone is him, he is not everyone else.

I don't know. I am sorta tired, I can't sleep because stress is in me mind and I am rambling I suppose. Some could look at me and say I am just making excuses for myself or whatever. I am someone that is very flawed. I have anxiety constantly, I have always been terrible socially because of my quirks and I am extremely depressed and I hate myself for it all. that's because I know I can't fix this anxiety issue, something I have always had and has actually gotten worse despite my efforts and yet, I feel like I should fix it, because if I don't, I am lesser than other people. That is what I see this guy's own viewpoint as and why I think it is dangerous in its own way. It is telling people that they shouldn't accept themselves if they are flawed. They should strive to be near flawless, like their fellow human beings. That just seems wrong to me. It is not wrong to want to improve yourself, but to not accept yourself as a person if you can't? No, that isn't the answer. That would be like telling someone with nervous ticks who gets bullied because kids they think he is 'weird' to work on not having nervous ticks. Telling them that and telling them not to accept themselves with their own flaws is basically telling them that who they are is wrong. Again, you want to tell someone that is actually obstructing someone else's happiness by way of being a dickhole? Sure, tell them that, that makes sense, but one cannot use it as a blanket statement. It all reminds of the type of people that look at those who commit suicide and blame THEM for their problems and not fixing them instead. He himself says that the moral of self acceptance has its limits, but good luck knowing what those limits are.

Ehhh...That's all I can say really. I guess I felt something really wrong about this person's own message as a counter point to a message that I hold close to my heart, the message of self acceptance.

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This is definitely one of those episodes that I'll never watch again. What were they thinking?! :eww:

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The same two who hate the same episode has ideas against each others? What kind of inception is this ? :confused:This post gave some new insight of the episode, people look at the same things but their interpretations are just different, this is why I love this episode :oneheckofahat:

We're not flawless
We're a work in progress
Those lines can be put in two ways: It about to accept that people are not perfect and they still struggle to become better and mistakes made who they are today or just an excuse for not improve yourself for better. 
 
 
 
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I didn't really care about the meta stuff (but even then, Slice Of Life and Stranger Than Fan Fiction did it much better); I hated this episode simply because of its "Mane 6 are unfairly tormented by a mob of flankholes, and they get away with it" premise.

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I haven't watched Mr Enter in a while, but I remember he tends to get a lot of flak because it always seems like he bases his enjoyment of an episode on the morals. 

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5 hours ago, ultrairongorilla said:

I haven't watched Mr Enter in a while, but I remember he tends to get a lot of flak because it always seems like he bases his enjoyment of an episode on the morals. 

That seems like a definite problem. The only time a moral was super awful in my view was in Newbie Dash, but the moral itself isn't the only thing that makes the episode bad to me. If an episode is good, I can forgive a bad moral, but most morals, even in not-so-good episodes can be good on their own.

15 hours ago, Lambdadelta said:
Those lines can be put in two ways: It about to accept that people are not perfect and they still struggle to become better and mistakes made who they are today or just an excuse for not improve yourself for better. 
 
 
 

See, that's the logic I don't agree with. That is the logic this Youtuber makes within the video. He basically makes it seem as though the only two options are being flawed and improving or 'not trying enough'. That is something I can't accept as a way to look at it. With everyone having their own situations, some far more complicated than others, I can't apply one's own way of handling life and their own issues to someone else.

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On 1/29/2018 at 10:48 PM, Kyoshi said:

The only time a moral was super awful in my view was in Newbie Dash

I think you're forgetting Feeling Pinkie Keen.

My main reason for hating Fame & Misfortune was simply that they made the townsponies into us.  I usually like the meta-fandom type jokes, (like the Rainbow/Quibble canon debate) but the townsponies KNOW the mane 6, and they never would have acted like that.  It was like the mirror universe Star Trek episodes where everyone is evil.

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