Loss of Motivation

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Wow, it's been awhile since I've used this, hasn't it been?

Anyways, I feel it's time I say something in here once again. For the past few months I have had less and less drive to do really anything anymore. I have school work that I should be doing but can't be assed to do it. I don't know why I don't do it because I know I can. I just feel incredibly demotivated. Same thing comes with this site. I used to be on here all day but ever since a few months ago, I can't be on for most of the day anymore or even hell, most of the free time I had. Call it exploring different hobbies or the such but I just haven't been feeling it. With that, I've felt that I have been some what of a let down staff wise. My drive to do what I want to do is almost gone and I make stupid little mistakes that I embarrass myself with. Is it time to throw the towel in? I really don't know. It's not that I don't enjoy being on here anymore, it's that I just can't be assed to go on here due to me just feeling meh if that makes sense. What do you guys think? Am I being over dramatic and should I just get over this?

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If you're not motivated to visit the forums, it's better not to force yourself to. I'd of course like you to be here often... but if you're not enjoying the forums, maybe it's better to take a short break or something to possibly regain that enthusiasm. I remember you said once you were close to burning out on the forums – could this be the case right now too? Thinking back to how active you were at one point, I don't think that's really surprising – I've never quite been that active myself, but at the times when I was at my own peak in activity, I had to have a couple of less active days after that to avoid burning out! And exploring different hobbies is always a good thing – focusing on just one thing can get pretty boring, which I'm saying from experience... As for staff duties, I can't say I know everything about it (or even close to it), but based on what I've seen, I think you've done a good job as a sectional!

And as for being demotivated, I can say you're not alone in this regard either. The same has been the case with me for a while – not really with the forums (except sometimes, but more often than before) but in general. I hope you feel better soon, my friend! :kindness:

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I don't think the right solution is to ignore the problem, the problem will just return later. From the sounds of things, it doesn't seem like your problem stems from the forums itself or your studies though; it seems like there could be some kind of internal struggle behind your demotivation. I'm not a psychologist, but I would make an attempt at identifying the problem, figuring out why you feel the way you do. It could just be burnout you're experiencing between the forums and your studies, or it could be something more.

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You too, hm? Well, I'm not qualified to give you advice on whether or not to stay on the Forums, as that is something I'm still conflicted on... but I can offer a smidgen of indirectly related advice, regarding your recent apathetic phase.

If I am to be completely honest with myself, the sole reason I return to the Forums time and time again is due to nostalgia. I reminisce about the times when I and a few other members conquered the Forum Games, the times when I was introduced to the Staff, the times when many since-departed members were active, the times when the WPCC Lounge was a modest sub-group... you understand what I am saying. Though those times were certainly incredibly enjoyable, deep down... I know none of these experiences will be recreated.

One aspect of modern culture I tend to dislike is how much of a tar pit nostalgia has become. No matter where you look, mainstream media is either utilizing a decade(+) old franchise, or is paying homage to it it some capacity. While this isn't inherently a bad thing, I dislike how it makes us far too comfortable and reliant on the Status Quo. Yes, some franchises have survived this long for a reason... but I do wish modern culture was more welcoming of new properties and ideas. Either way, the keyword in this situation is comfort. Though we are naturally inclined to seek it and withdraw into it... comfort is more harrowing than we may like to admit. Think back to the most exhilarating or incredible points in your life... and tell me how many of them were performed within your comfort zone. Chances are, there will be few, if any at all.

What am I trying to say in this instance? If your experience mirrors mine at all, then the key appeal of MLPF was how new and unfamiliar it was. The members, the games, the trends... the overall community was utterly unprecedented to me, as it may have been for you. In this instance, the overall appeal and novelty tapered off once we settled in. In other words... MLPF is now mundane.

In summary, comfort is gratifying, but not fulfilling. If the main reason we return to the Forums is due to a longing for past experiences... the unfortunate truth is that we are chasing what is behind us, in a forward moving life.

In the end, this is ultimately your choice. Sometimes boredom can be worse than pain, so if you feel as though you need to take a break from the Forums, if not outright depart... then it may be for the best. I would certainly recommend the former, considering the fact that you have many friends and acquaintances here... but if you absolutely must depart, then we will understand. :rarity:

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I understand you. I wish I had the right words, but know that I care. And don't hate yourself for not going on the forums anymore, everypony can take a break for a while. Like @Tacodidra said, taking a break might help you regain your enthusiasm. Anyways, know that we'll be here for you. :kindness:

Besides,  you're actually doing great staff wise, volunteering to sing the Hearth's Warming solo song. I would never do something so embarrassing, unlike you. Go TwilySparky! :D

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1 hour ago, Tacodidra said:

If you're not motivated to visit the forums, it's better not to force yourself to. I'd of course like you to be here often... but if you're not enjoying the forums, maybe it's better to take a short break or something to possibly regain that enthusiasm. I remember you said once you were close to burning out on the forums – could this be the case right now too? Thinking back to how active you were at one point, I don't think that's really surprising – I've never quite been that active myself, but at the times when I was at my own peak in activity, I had to have a couple of less active days after that to avoid burning out! And exploring different hobbies is always a good thing – focusing on just one thing can get pretty boring, which I'm saying from experience... As for staff duties, I can't say I know everything about it (or even close to it), but based on what I've seen, I think you've done a good job as a sectional!

And as for being demotivated, I can say you're not alone in this regard either. The same has been the case with me for a while – not really with the forums (except sometimes, but more often than before) but in general. I hope you feel better soon, my friend! :kindness:

For me, the demotivation comes from me being scared to chase when I should. It's the fear of failing that has made me apathetic to even try at all. Yes, I shouldn't be doing this but it's part of my personality to put things off that I don't enjoy at that moment. Even if putting it off would be a dire mistake.

52 minutes ago, Celtore said:

I don't think the right solution is to ignore the problem, the problem will just return later. From the sounds of things, it doesn't seem like your problem stems from the forums itself or your studies though; it seems like there could be some kind of internal struggle behind your demotivation. I'm not a psychologist, but I would make an attempt at identifying the problem, figuring out why you feel the way you do. It could just be burnout you're experiencing between the forums and your studies, or it could be something more.

I've always been told to go see a psychologist about my problems but I'm just hesitant to so. I've battled depression and anxiety mostly on my own for most of my life. I've been an outcast when I was a kid and only recently have I taken socializing into consideration. I still feel that I'm better on my own then to be drugged by a psychologist.

23 minutes ago, The Recherche said:

You too, hm? Well, I'm not qualified to give you advice on whether or not to stay on the Forums, as that is something I'm still conflicted on... but I can offer a smidgen of indirectly related advice, regarding your recent apathetic phase.

If I am to be completely honest with myself, the sole reason I return to the Forums time and time again is due to nostalgia. I reminisce about the times when I and a few other members conquered the Forum Games, the times when I was introduced to the Staff, the times when many since-departed members were active, the times when the WPCC Lounge was a modest sub-group... you understand what I am saying. Though those times were certainly incredibly enjoyable, deep down... I know none of these experiences will be recreated.

One aspect of modern culture I tend to dislike is how much of a tar pit nostalgia has become. No matter where you look, mainstream media is either utilizing a decade(+) old franchise, or is paying homage to it it some capacity. While this isn't inherently a bad thing, I dislike how it makes us far too comfortable and reliant on the Status Quo. Yes, some franchises have survived this long for a reason... but I do wish modern culture was more welcoming of new properties and ideas. Either way, the keyword in this situation is comfort. Though we are naturally inclined to seek it and withdraw into it... comfort is more harrowing than we may like to admit. Think back to the most exhilarating or incredible points in your life... and tell me how many of them were performed within your comfort zone. Chances are, there will be few, if any at all.

What am I trying to say in this instance? If your experience mirrors mine at all, then the key appeal of MLPF was how new and unfamiliar it was. The members, the games, the trends... the overall community was utterly unprecedented to me, as it may have been for you. In this instance, the overall appeal and novelty tapered off once we settled in. In other words... MLPF is now mundane.

In summary, comfort is gratifying, but not fulfilling. If the main reason we return to the Forums is due to a longing for past experiences... the unfortunate truth is that we are chasing what is behind us, in a forward moving life.

In the end, this is ultimately your choice. Sometimes boredom can be worse than pain, so if you feel as though you need to take a break from the Forums, if not outright depart... then it may be for the best. I would certainly recommend the former, considering the fact that you have many friends and acquaintances here... but if you absolutely must depart, then we will understand. :rarity:

Should I depart? I've thoughts about it but I really don't think I want to yet. I still enjoy coming here like I've said since this community is one of the only places I willingly socialize online. Should I take a break? Possibly, not until MCM is done though, I've committed myself to this event and I should see it all the way through. It would be unfair to the others on the event if I were to drop off the face of the earth for a month or two.

I do agree on some point that I come here for nostalgia but that's not the only thing keeping me here. What keeps me here is the people I talk to. People like @Tacodidra to name one great example. If all the members I actually care about left, then I would have little to no reason to stay around anymore. I'm not exactly at the phase where I want to just depart from the forums.

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I feel ya bro. I too, am susceptible to burn out. It's kinda the reason why I go thru cycles with my hobbies and such. I'll take a break, sometimes a long break, but I always come back to it refreshed. A nice break and some additional hobbies may help you reorganize internally. 

As far as the school work goes. Crack those knuckles and get to it!  :grin:

 

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Maybe you're going through a 'fuck it' phase. Most of us have gone through it where nothing interests us anymore like playing video games, reading, or enjoying other hobbies. There's nothing wrong with exploring new things. Hell, that's how I started watching the show in the first place. As long as you don't over do it and get obsessed with it, you'll be fine. I'm going through a phase myself with my writing. I've been working on the same story since April of this year and I'm only half way through chapter 3. For some reason, I can't seem to finish this latest chapter. I sit down to write it out and I get easily distracted by other things.

Does being part of the sectional staff still make you happy? Maybe it's time to step back from it for a while or retire from it. From what I've seen, you've done a great job with it. If you do decide to step back and take time off, we will understand and support you. The same goes if you decide to walk away completely. We hope that you don't do that but we'll understand. :kindness:

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I would like to say something on this subject, if I may?

Variety is the spice of Life; when our surroundings & personal trappings become commonplace, we miss that spice.  Things feel bland, underwhelming, or perhaps even cross into boredom... or, it just doesn't feel like you're accomplishing anything new.  Stagnancy leads to wasteful thinking and lazy, half-hearted attempts to continue to relate through the same, routine ways you once did.  Or even in the case of being paralyzed with fear of the Big Fail, it just keeps you from not only enjoying yourself... but it also becomes apparent to others who are astute enough to see it in your post quality, your attitude towards the fandom, or even as simple as just feeling as though you've no choice but to slog along, out of habit more than any sense of true motivation.

We refer to that in a plethora of ways: ennui, The Nothing, anti-existence, meh, Greyface... the list goes on and on, no doubt compiled by someone suffering from such.

But... what do we DO about it?  How do we find that spark again, that bright and shining star that will elevate us back to where we once belonged?

Well... you won't; stop trying.

You see, the problem is that folks fall into the "trap" of making a beeline for familiarity, for things they'll understand as soon as they see it - and there's essentially nothing wrong with that, as it's human nature to want to go with what we know... but in the long run, all we're doing is re-re-re-re-REhashing the same things, and expecting a different result each time... but not getting one.

"Have I ever told you the definition of INSANITY?"

I'm no expert on pulling-thyself-from-Funkville, but I've learned a few tricks during my time on the dirtball... and the biggest one I advise is to look into ways you HAVEN'T done things before - not just on the forums, but in Real Life, too.  Sometimes, we get so bogged down with the simple act of LIVING, we forget to go out and LIVE.

So... time for the shake up.

Fail.  Make mistakes.  Take risks.  Look for things that terrify or anger you... and investigate them.  Write out a math paper's answers in WORDS and not numbers.  BE afraid of changes... but don't allow it to stop you from making any.  

Sometimes, all we really need is a change of pace to pull us back into our own head, instead of floating above ourselves in that out-of-body sense of dis-attachment to our everyday lives.  Even if you try something and fail at it, remember that you TRIED something new... and learned a thing or two from it, I'll bet.

Variety IS the spice of Life... and sometimes, we need to go out & grab some new spices from the shelves of Life's ExperienceMart. 

Others will say 'don't fear the unknown'; I say, "fear the unknown... but don't forget to be excited about it, too."  :flutterhat: 

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1 hour ago, Tacodidra said:

I remember you said once you were close to burning out on the forums

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That should solve the problem. :love:


That happens Taze. That's the magic of motivation and occasional lack of it, whether caused by mistakes, time, having worse days or simply other problems haunting you. Many people struggle with that, mostly ones, who care about something more than the others. Sadly it is difficult to get it back afterwards. Depending on what caused that motivation drop, there are different ways to find it back, there's no perfect solution, that would always work. Sometimes it comes back on its own, with time, so that makes taking a break a viable solution in some cases. Not that I suggest you leaving! NU! :derp:

You mentioned feeling less motivated in general - hobbies, being here - to me it seems like something in real life simply bothers you. Oh, real life problems can heavily discourage you from being productive and make it harder to focus on something that you used to enjoy. :twi:

Well, something motivating I could say is, that you're still one of the staffers I see most often, compared to few others. dfEG13d.png Shame on them, jk, jk! :D;) And we all make mistakes - that just happens. It is extremely demotivating when making one, that's true, but the truth is, that we all embarrass ourselves once in a while. ^_^ With time it gets better. :P 

 

In any case, I hope things will get better for you. :fluttershy:

 

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9 hours ago, Phosphor said:

I feel ya bro. I too, am susceptible to burn out. It's kinda the reason why I go thru cycles with my hobbies and such. I'll take a break, sometimes a long break, but I always come back to it refreshed. A nice break and some additional hobbies may help you reorganize internally. 

As far as the school work goes. Crack those knuckles and get to it!  :grin:

 

Maybe it might be time to take a break soon. I still have to trudge through MCM though, I can't quit on that yet. About experiencing burnout though. Except to see less of me during the first few months of the new year. Reason being is because I will be trudging through a 90 hour internship and 5 classes along with part-time work. I'll have my hands full quite a bit!

8 hours ago, Twilight Luna said:

Maybe you're going through a 'fuck it' phase. Most of us have gone through it where nothing interests us anymore like playing video games, reading, or enjoying other hobbies. There's nothing wrong with exploring new things. Hell, that's how I started watching the show in the first place. As long as you don't over do it and get obsessed with it, you'll be fine. I'm going through a phase myself with my writing. I've been working on the same story since April of this year and I'm only half way through chapter 3. For some reason, I can't seem to finish this latest chapter. I sit down to write it out and I get easily distracted by other things.

Does being part of the sectional staff still make you happy? Maybe it's time to step back from it for a while or retire from it. From what I've seen, you've done a great job with it. If you do decide to step back and take time off, we will understand and support you. The same goes if you decide to walk away completely. We hope that you don't do that but we'll understand. :kindness:

A "fuck it" phase? Yeah, I could see that honestly. I've been trying to keep myself from completely saying "fuck it" to everything but it gets harder and harder as time goes on. About leaving staff... I don't plan on doing so just yet. I don't want to hastily make the decision and regret it later on.

8 hours ago, Randimaxis said:

I would like to say something on this subject, if I may?

Variety is the spice of Life; when our surroundings & personal trappings become commonplace, we miss that spice.  Things feel bland, underwhelming, or perhaps even cross into boredom... or, it just doesn't feel like you're accomplishing anything new.  Stagnancy leads to wasteful thinking and lazy, half-hearted attempts to continue to relate through the same, routine ways you once did.  Or even in the case of being paralyzed with fear of the Big Fail, it just keeps you from not only enjoying yourself... but it also becomes apparent to others who are astute enough to see it in your post quality, your attitude towards the fandom, or even as simple as just feeling as though you've no choice but to slog along, out of habit more than any sense of true motivation.

We refer to that in a plethora of ways: ennui, The Nothing, anti-existence, meh, Greyface... the list goes on and on, no doubt compiled by someone suffering from such.

But... what do we DO about it?  How do we find that spark again, that bright and shining star that will elevate us back to where we once belonged?

Well... you won't; stop trying.

You see, the problem is that folks fall into the "trap" of making a beeline for familiarity, for things they'll understand as soon as they see it - and there's essentially nothing wrong with that, as it's human nature to want to go with what we know... but in the long run, all we're doing is re-re-re-re-REhashing the same things, and expecting a different result each time... but not getting one.

"Have I ever told you the definition of INSANITY?"

I'm no expert on pulling-thyself-from-Funkville, but I've learned a few tricks during my time on the dirtball... and the biggest one I advise is to look into ways you HAVEN'T done things before - not just on the forums, but in Real Life, too.  Sometimes, we get so bogged down with the simple act of LIVING, we forget to go out and LIVE.

So... time for the shake up.

Fail.  Make mistakes.  Take risks.  Look for things that terrify or anger you... and investigate them.  Write out a math paper's answers in WORDS and not numbers.  BE afraid of changes... but don't allow it to stop you from making any.  

Sometimes, all we really need is a change of pace to pull us back into our own head, instead of floating above ourselves in that out-of-body sense of dis-attachment to our everyday lives.  Even if you try something and fail at it, remember that you TRIED something new... and learned a thing or two from it, I'll bet.

Variety IS the spice of Life... and sometimes, we need to go out & grab some new spices from the shelves of Life's ExperienceMart. 

Others will say 'don't fear the unknown'; I say, "fear the unknown... but don't forget to be excited about it, too."  :flutterhat: 

Wow, this is a really well thought out post. It was a treat to read through. Now, to force myself to make mistakes and fail? I haven't thought of that from that perspective. I've been so paralyzed by the notion of failing that I haven't seen the future of what failing does. I guess what you mean is that you keep on failing until you succeed, right?

About getting stuck in my own ways though... that's easier said than done. I have a habit of getting back into my habits, either they be good or bad overtime.

8 hours ago, Rikifive said:

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That should solve the problem. :love:

 


That happens Taze. That's the magic of motivation and occasional lack of it, whether caused by mistakes, time, having worse days or simply other problems haunting you. Many people struggle with that, mostly ones, who care about something more than the others. Sadly it is difficult to get it back afterwards. Depending on what caused that motivation drop, there are different ways to find it back, there's no perfect solution, that would always work. Sometimes it comes back on its own, with time, so that makes taking a break a viable solution in some cases. Not that I suggest you leaving! NU! :derp:

You mentioned feeling less motivated in general - hobbies, being here - to me it seems like something in real life simply bothers you. Oh, real life problems can heavily discourage you from being productive and make it harder to focus on something that you used to enjoy. :twi:

Well, something motivating I could say is, that you're still one of the staffers I see most often, compared to few others. dfEG13d.png Shame on them, jk, jk! :D;) And we all make mistakes - that just happens. It is extremely demotivating when making one, that's true, but the truth is, that we all embarrass ourselves once in a while. ^_^ With time it gets better. :P 

 

In any case, I hope things will get better for you. :fluttershy:

 

Ok, riki. You made me giggle with the first picture. I commend you on that.

I do try my best when it comes to be active here since I don't want to end up like most of other staffers who don't show up at all. I love the idea of being close with the community and not being high up on a pedestal just because I'm part of the staff team. I feel that staff should serve the community, not have the community serve the staff. It takes a specific mindset in my opinion to do that.

On motivation, time will just have to tell me when I'm motivated again. I can't exactly force myself to be motivated, but I guess a break from the forums wouldn't hurt to try either in the future.

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Oh yes, it should be that way. :darling:

Yeah, I believe it should come back to normal with time. I also felt not motivated to come here earlier. It was because I couldn't find anything to do in here. :twismile: All I do is spamming in Cantetlot after all, heh. :twi: I've been wondering if I should take a break or something - to wait until I'd have anything interesting to share, but I knew there's no point in this, as I'd be lurking anyway to see if anything is happening or if I have been poked. So my activity dropped, but I was visiting frequently. It automatically got better now - things are happening and I tend to spend hours in here again. :muffins: If you feel burned out, you don't have to completely take a break, you can just lower the activity to your needs or minimum and wait for the right time. :fluttershy: Well unless you really don't want to have any contact with anybody for some reason. :P

After all, being on forums isn't a mandatory daily task, where you either are active or not. You just use it as often as you need. Being a mod is that extra task, but in my opinion it actually gives you another reason to visit, which positively impacts the situation, unless being one is a pain for you. :mlp_pout:

Don't be bothered with it much, try few things and see how it goes. I hope you'll find the motivation back. :fluttershy: I swear I saw it hiding somewhere

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Motivation is certainly something which tends to fluctuate, as much as we despise it.

I'll be blunt here: If you aren't feeling happy or motivated to go on the forum, don't do it. It won't help anyone and will probably make you want to not come on more. As a friend, I'd like you to stay and suggest taking small breaks now and then. However, if you're not happy or don't have any motivation, you must go with your heart. We understand  completely, but remember, our door is always open for you.

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