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So, in my original thoughts on the finale, I talked about why I felt it was a strong episode. Having since rewatched the episode, however, I have been having some serious second thoughts. There were a number of issues that nagged at me when I watched through it the first time, issues that become much more glaring on rewatches to the point that I can't quite set them aside. It's frustrating because there are a number of things I really like about this episode; the quality of all of the songs is extraordinary and I love every single one. I've had “True True Friend” stuck in my head for days. But I can't ignore these issues.

 

Before I begin, I want to emphasize that the following post is about the episode as an episode. It is not about whether Alicorn Twilight is a good thing or not, which I continue to believe it is. This also does not take into account production considerations. I am aware that season three had a reduced budget and that this episode was originally written as a series finale, and as a result they chose to make some serious compromises. This is simply about the quality of the episode as it has been presented to us.

 

The episode has a number of serious flaws when it comes to plotting. A lot of people point to the pacing as a flaw, which it certainly has issues with, but the pacing is only a small part of the story. The actual plot is rather flimsy and contradicts a number of things we've learned in the past, about cutie marks, and about destiny in general.

 

First, there's the way the episode cold opens into a song. Although it's true this song is followed up on at the end of the episode in a reprise, much like how The Crystal Empire Parts I and II reprised its first song at the end, the song itself is rather meaningless and takes up far too much time for the episode. In order to tell any kind of story, particularly the two stories that this episode is trying to tell within the span of twenty two minutes, a writer must budget time appropriately. A song about how everything is fine doesn't do this. While it sounds nice and definitely has a worthwhile melody to it, it's a huge time waster and should have been cut entirely. (Even the animators had a hard time doing much with this song; that's probably why Twilight jumps up onto a table and dances because there was nothing else for her to do with it.)

 

From there, we segue into trying to handle the crisis with cutie marks, far too fast. The cutie marks themselves have never been about a set destiny. This has been stated by every single episode to ever deal with cutie marks. And yet here it's contradicted. Now, in my previous review I expressed a belief that the spell affected the memories of the Mane Six, which it did appear to do, so it made them think they're supposed to follow a new destiny even though that doesn't make much sense. And it's fraught with its own problems, since it doesn't explain why everyone else in Ponyville is okay with the change.

 

In fact the whole plot constantly contradicts itself throughout because it can't work the way it does. No one in Ponyville tries to say that the Mane Six are doing things wrong. There's a whole weather team that should have been objecting to Rarity's spellwork, for instance. Angel wasn't protesting the sudden lack of Fluttershy. The Cakes were nowhere to be found, and Applejack's family didn't even appear when Pinkie was mismanaging the farm. And so on and so forth. So, this should mean the spell affected everyone elses' minds to make them think everything was actually fine, yes?

 

Well, no, it couldn't have because we later see Applejack's family helping her regain her actual cutie mark.

 

As we progress through the episode, from “What My Cutie Mark Is Telling Me,” the plot accelerates trying to deal with everything at a super blinding speed; this is where people point to the episode having issues with pacing. We also only learn about what caused the cutie mark switch-up at this point, after which we spend more time wasted in the episode with the song “I've Got To Find A Way,” which not only presents us with Twilight becoming depressed without giving us any chance to actually accept it before the plot zooms to the next event, but it also presents some incredibly difficult to believe montage animation throughout. I'm sorry, but I cannot accept that the Mane Six are the only things keeping Ponyville working. I can't accept that the rest of the weather team wouldn't boot Rarity off or that some higher authority than the weather team of Ponyville—say, the weather teams of Cloudsdale or another major city—wouldn't come in and stop what she's doing. I can't accept that Pinkie is so bad at managing a farm that she utterly destroys it within a day, nor can I accept that the rest of Applejack's family would just let her or be that incapable of managing the farm. I can't accept that Rainbow Dash is so unable to care for animals that she can't even conceive of feeding them. I can't accept that Pinkie's entertainment is the only thing keeping everyone in Ponyville from turning against each other.

 

I just can't accept any of that. It's too absurd.

 

After Twilight's depression is over in a split second, she figures out how to fix the problem, gathers everyone up, and another song montage proceeds with the Mane Six being restored. Problem created, conceived, and solved in about ten minutes, some of which wasn't even spent establishing the problem to begin with.

 

Again I'd like to stop here and point out that I love these songs. They're absolutely great music. But they just present so many problems with this episode in terms of telling the story. Specifically, the songs are misused. If I might borrow from something a friend of mine once told me, the songs in this show are typically used for two things:

 

1. Establishing characterization

2. Covering story that would otherwise be tedious to cover in normal dialogue sequences

 

Examples of the first include “Smile Smile Smile” while examples of the second would include “Art of the Dress”(which is actually both the first and second) as well as “At The Gala.”

 

What makes the songs in “Magical Mystery Cure” misused is that they're not just covering plot elements, but zipping past and outright skipping super important parts of the plot. They also fill time that could have been better used for other things.

 

For example, instead of revealing that Twilight received Starswirl's book only after we see the cutie marks have switched, why not open with her discovering the book and casting a spell, only for it to do seemingly nothing? It'd be a more effective use of time than a song that, while great to listen to, was ultimately meaningless.

 

After solving the problem with the cutie marks, we cut to Twilight finishing out the spell in Starswirl's book, which for whatever reason causes the Elements of Harmony to blast her. I still can't quite understand why this happens. We're told that it's because Twilight has a destiny to become an Alicorn, but why would that cause the Elements to blast her to a celestial realm? It feels as though this only happens because the plot requires it. I can try to explain this by suggesting that the Elements of Harmony are part of some natural magic of Equestria, that they detect that Twilight has created her own magic and so that means she needs to become an Alicorn.

 

Alternatively, the fact that she's blasted into seeming dust and then ends up in a celestial realm could possibly be a kid friendly way of saying the Elements killed her and that she had to be resurrected as an Alicorn.

 

Whatever the case we barely get a chance to understand what's happening before Celestia tells us all about this in a song that tells us it's all about Twilight's destiny. Again I take issue with the destiny aspect because it suggests that her becoming an Alicorn was something pre-determined, that she only went through motions Fate dictated to her and that it's not her effort that resulted in her earning the position and the title of Princess.

 

It also significantly muddles where Alicorns come from because we don't know if Cadance went through something like this, or if Celestia and Luna did, and if they did why are they so much larger than Twilight. It presents further confusing issues.

 

Then we have the sequence where Celestia explains to the others what's happened. This would have been a great time, if the episode were a two parter, for the Mane Six to have experienced some significant angst. It's nighttime when Twilight Ascends, so they've spent several hours sitting there. For all they know, they'd killed one of their best friends; all that was left behind was smoking ash in the shape of Twilight's cutie mark. But alas, missed opportunities.

 

I take strong issue with how Celestia phrases things. She says, “I'll still be here to help and guide you, but we're all your students now, too.” Student of what? Of knowledge? Of friendship? We don't get an answer, and the way it's phrased makes things almost as confusing as possible.

 

After that, the rest of the episode concerns itself with feel good imagery and songs that can be summed as “Twilight is a Princess; yay!” It's full of some fantastic animation, and I do love the outfits the Mane Six end up wearing. There's also a few good lines, like Shining Armor's “liquid pride” but also some problematic ones, such as the way Twilight's speech to the crowd opens with “A little while ago.” I realize they were trying to avoid setting a specific timeline, but that phrasing makes it seem like she could have ended up in Ponyville just a couple of months before she Ascended, or even just a few weeks.

 

On the whole, the episode has severe problems with its plot. The pacing is just the most obvious symptom of that; the plot as a whole is contrived and doesn't offer up as much as it could have. The whole episode could have benefited from some significant rewriting. A friend of mine, Norse Pony, offers up here one possible way the episode could have gone differently: http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/129557/spoilers-an-alternate-finale-or-rewriting-friendship

 

My feelings about the episode are mixed, to sum up. There really is a lot about it that I still like. I love the songs; even the ones that I said should be cut for time are really good. “True True Friend” which has a few issues with the plot glaring in its montage of animation is probably my favorite out of the lot and, as I said at the beginning, has been stuck in my head ever since I first saw the episode. Twilight's Ascension as an Alicorn is something that I believed and continue to believe is something this show needed not only for the future, but also just because I think she deserves it. Twilight Sparkle has been growing as a character throughout the show and it's all been building towards one ultimate goal.

 

I just take so much issue with how they ended up doing it. They wanted to do a musical episode, because when this episode was written, in November of 2011, they thought this was the end of the show. This episode was more fitting of a series finale than a season finale, and I rather wish that once season four had been ordered they'd been able to go back and axe an episode of season three so they could turn this into a two parter. It would have been nice, but it's not what they were able to do unfortunately.

 

So my revised score for this episode, taking into account both the fact that I really like parts of it but that the plot is contrived... is 3/10. Compared to most episodes it falls far short of what it's trying to do. My original score of 7/10 was a result of praising the concept it was shooting for rather than what it actually ended up doing.

 

Still, I do feel like the issues present in this episode aren't likely to be repeated. As has been pointed out by many, season three was underfunded, and it showed in a lot of the writing. They thought this was the end of the series so they were trying to do too many large ideas with what they had, and they stumbled. It's understandable. Season four is likely to open up with a good, strong two parter that will resolve a lot of the unanswered questions from this, and will sell us on Alicorn Twilight far better than Magical Mystery Cure does. I'm still looking forward, with interest and excitement.

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^This, plus I don't think alicorn Twilight was at all necessary.

 

NorsePony's alternate plot is excellent. I wish that had been the finale instead!

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Thank the gods. You basically summed up what I've thought the whole time except you actually put it into coherent writing. It was super rushed, and the alicorn thing literally came out of nowhere. It contradicted itself several times, and could have been better in so many ways.

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I just take so much issue with how they ended up doing it. They wanted to do a musical episode, because when this episode was written, in November of 2011, they thought this was the end of the show. This episode was more fitting of a series finale than a season finale, and I rather wish that once season four had been ordered they'd been able to go back and axe an episode of season three so they could turn this into a two parter. It would have been nice, but it's not what they were able to do unfortunately.

Kyronea, you just succinctly summarized the pervasive problems of Season 3.

 

They were cramming a lot of material into a single season -- one which was already abridged. As I have said in other threads, I suspect they were prepared for Season 3 to be the end. Such would explain the bevy of fan service (e.g., Trixie and Discord returning). As a friend of mine mentioned in a discussion we had following the season finale, DHX Media was being awfully kind to Bronies this season.

 

That having been said, a lot of episodes were undoubtedly rushed this season. "Magical Mystery Cure" happens to be the epitome of the rights and wrongs of Season 3: plenty of fan service, fantastic visuals, and superb voice acting; but extremely rushed and poorly paced. It was like being forced to go through an especially rich meal in under twenty minutes.

 

A litany of inconsistencies will need to be addressed with Season 4.

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Kyronea, you just succinctly summarized the pervasive problems of Season 3.

 

They were cramming a lot of material into a single season -- one which was already abridged. As I have said in other threads, I suspect they were prepared for Season 3 to be the end. Such would explain the bevy of fan service (e.g., Trixie and Discord returning). As a friend of mine mentioned in a discussion we had following the season finale, DHX Media was being awfully kind to Bronies this season.

 

That having been said, a lot of episodes were undoubtedly rushed this season. "Magical Mystery Cure" happens to be the epitome of the rights and wrongs of Season 3: plenty of fan service, fantastic visuals, and superb voice acting; but extremely rushed and poorly paced. It was like being forced to go through an especially rich meal in under twenty minutes.

 

A litany of inconsistencies will need to be addressed with Season 4.

Aye. There are a ton of little things they'd have to fix here and there, new issues to address, new concerns.

 

For example, now that Discord is reformed, what will they do with him? A lot of people, including me, thought he might've had a hand in Alicorn Twilight, but he was nowhere to be seen. So they need to follow up on that.

 

They need to follow up on everything with Twilight, of course.

 

They also need to follow up on some other things. For example, the Equestria Games gives them a potential story arc to work with. All kinds of things could be addressed through that.

 

Mostly, I just want them to take their time again. It's good that you're giving us good stuff, DHX, but please don't, to use Spoon's metaphor, shove a meal down my throat again. I want to savor it, not be force fed it.

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Like you, I too thought of the finale to be underwhelming after a second stint. I could attribute this to the feeling of Twilight becoming an alicorn finally sinking in after a week or so, but unfortunately, that just isn't the case.

 

The finale was, (and I'll be fair) -- promising. A very touching musical showcasing what Twilight and her friends had gone through during their stay in Ponyville together. Recounts of Discord, the ever-famous Canterlot Wedding, and even Pinkie Pie's bout of depression that ironically enough was so nostalgic it put a smile on my face. The humor had the MLP charm of old and it showed. The songs were fantastic and rivaled A Canterlot Wedding's smash soundtrack. That is a big compliment to give out.

 

So, what was the problem?

 

...The same reason why many of the other episodes felt lackluster and unengaging.

 

... It felt rushed, eyebrow-raising, and very questionable.

 

I'm all for making a season finale a small musical. That's fine. You did it for The Best Night Ever and that was one of the best episodes I've ever watched. However, of this magnitude, there is not much excuse to develop this sort of story and outright having the sequence be blasted right through. It's like being a quarterback in a football game running the two-minute drill.... and inexplicably taking a sack that ultimately kills the time management part of the game. There's no doubt in my mind that it would have benefited from being a two-parter, but I don't think that's the issue either -- this odd pattern of season three episodes being uninteresting isn't something I would have expected even from a shortened year. In reference, earlier on in the season, right after the premiere, I did think it was just an average one -- not eye-popping but not disappointing either. Then came the introduction of the Pinkie Pie episode which had me in shambles because of how ridiculous it felt, even if it was all Pinkie Pie. 

 

"OK, three episodes down. Ten more to go."

 

Let's stop right there. Immediately I realized how much of a bad experiment thirteen episodes in a big of a series as FIM would turn out to be. Forget all the hype. Throw out every single fan off the brony fandom for a second. Purge all memory of My Little Pony. Pressing on episode ideas just because it may very well be the last season of the series should not warrant that kind of result when we're talking about an All-Pro team in DHX.

 

 

Still, I do feel like the issues present in this episode aren't likely to be repeated. As has been pointed out by many, season three was underfunded, and it showed in a lot of the writing.

 

Absolutely. That sort of performance is strictly on the producers -- when you make bad decisions, I don't care how good you can write an episode. The results... usually it's going to turn into a bad memory.

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I forgot to mention this.

 

On the issue of Twilight becoming an Alicorn, I firmly believe that after everything she's been through, she deserves to be named one of the princesses of Equestria. It may not have been a popular idea to toss around back in the day, but the one thing that did stick out from the episode was Celestia's explanation for Twilight's ascension to the throne -- unlike your average Mary Sue, Twilight's demonstrated to be all of the Elements simultaneously. The hallmark of a true friend, as trite as that may sound to some. At the same time, we've come to understand her character by accepting that she has her flaws like anyone else would.

 

What am I getting out of this? Well, sometimes that perfect kid in school you hear all the time may not be perfect at all. They may appear to be confident and concise but deep down, they're plagued with their own problems that can really cast aside someone from everyone else. It just goes to show you that you can never judge someone by bravado alone.

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Let's stop right there. Immediately I realized how much of a bad experiment thirteen episodes in a big of a series as FIM would turn out to be. Forget all the hype. Throw out every single fan off the brony fandom for a second. Purge all memory of My Little Pony. Pressing on episode ideas just because it may very well be the last season of the series should not warrant that kind of result when we're talking about an All-Pro team in DHX.

 

 

Absolutely. That sort of performance is strictly on the producers -- when you make bad decisions, I don't care how good you can write an episode. The results... usually it's going to turn into a bad memory.

This is exactly why I'm rather disappointed with season three. The attitude, it seems, was that the show was already over, so let's phone it in to get it over with. On the producer's side, anyway. The writers obviously wanted to keep trying for more good things, and they kept being misused as a result. I wouldn't be surprised if behind the scenes there weren't nearly as many script rewrites or time budgeted for the sort of careful care and attention scripts had been given in previous seasons.

 

My other hope is that season three doesn't kill the interest the fandom has in the show. Last thing we'd want is for Hasbro to allow us to have a season four and then cost ourselves a chance at season five because Hasbro was reacting to how we reacted to season three. (Slow reactions, etc.)

 

 

I forgot to mention this.

 

On the issue of Twilight becoming an Alicorn, I firmly believe that after everything she's been through, she deserves to be named one of the princesses of Equestria. It may not have been a popular idea to toss around back in the day, but the one thing that did stick out from the episode was Celestia's explanation for Twilight's ascension to the throne -- unlike your average Mary Sue, Twilight's demonstrated to be all of the Elements simultaneously. The hallmark of a true friend, as trite as that may sound to some. At the same time, we've come to understand her character by accepting that she has her flaws like anyone else would.

 

What am I getting out of this? Well, sometimes that perfect kid in school you hear all the time may not be perfect at all. They may appear to be confident and concise but deep down, they're plagued with their own problems that can really cast aside someone from everyone else. It just goes to show you that you can never judge someone by bravado alone.

Right, exactly. Everything about the concept, about the idea of Alicorn Twilight is something I'm okay with. I don't think for a minute she's going to forget about her friends, or put herself above them. She might have higher responsibilities but she's going to elevate them right alongside her.

 

One thing I didn't mention in either review was the shipping fuel I saw out of this finale. It's another thing I love about it; it has a ton of it. Especially what I like to call the omniship. The girls outright said they love each other; several friends of mine like to believe the coronation was an omniship wedding in disguise.

 

But even if you're not shipping, the amount of love, platonic or otherwise, that Twilight feels for her friends means she's not going to forget them. It's not going to turn out that she's superior and everyone else bows to her. She'll be good and so will they.

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Just a simple question Kyro, especifically about the cutie marks.

 

Ummm... I just thought... the moment you get your cutie mark, is literally a moment that shapes your life. Literally, your life starts turning around the same thing one way or the other. After all, wanting to escape or not your cutie mark, it still somehow drives or drived your life somehow. So I just thought... if somehow your cutie mark was changed... wouldn't this literally change the moment and where did one gain his or her cutie mark, which might as well effectively change memories around, whether the spell affected memories or not?

 

Also, I don't know about the rest of the mane 6, but Pinkie DOES know every single pony in Ponyville thanks to her parties, and she is basically the one that, you know, goes around throwing smiles to, again, every single pony in the town. I honestly can see ponies getting happy to see the old Pinkie back IMO.

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Just a simple question Kyro, especifically about the cutie marks.

 

Ummm... I just thought... the moment you get your cutie mark, is literally a moment that shapes your life. Literally, your life starts turning around the same thing one way or the other. After all, wanting to escape or not your cutie mark, it still somehow drives or drived your life somehow. So I just thought... if somehow your cutie mark was changed... wouldn't this literally change the moment and where did one gain his or her cutie mark, which might as well effectively change memories around, whether the spell affected memories or not?

 

Also, I don't know about the rest of the mane 6, but Pinkie DOES know every single pony in Ponyville thanks to her parties, and she is basically the one that, you know, goes around throwing smiles to, again, every single pony in the town. I honestly can see ponies getting happy to see the old Pinkie back IMO.

For the first half of your question, it depends upon what exactly changes the cutie mark. If it's just changing its appearance, then no, it's not going to rewrite your memories or your talents or anything; it'll just look different.

 

But if it's rewriting your actual talent somehow, then it should probably at least try to alter the memories along with it, unless you want to drive the pony mad. That, however, would involve a sort of reality altering magic that's far stronger than what the episode actually suggested the spell was capable of.

 

And the problem with that is if that was the case, a lot of other things should have changed around them, along with significant parts of Equestria. It would have made a lot more sense if the spell had affected everypony in Equestria except Twilight, because that would have made for a far more exciting episode, as well as a much more acceptable "Twilight rewrote this and is now a Princess (of Magic)" concept.

 

Plus, what you point out, about them recognizing Pinkie, or about AJ's family is part of the problem the episode has with plot. If the rest of Ponyville knew something was wrong, why didn't they do anything?  They're not incapable! If they were, Ponyville never would have survived all the years it was around before the Mane Six walked in strutting their heroic flanks. It's problematic plotting at absolute best and insulting at worst.

 

What's funny is, despite knowing how much of a problem it is plot wise, I still find "True True Friend" so happy feeling. It still feels so good because there really is a lot of genuine symbolism behind it, the symbolism of these six ponies who became friends and have built that friendship through so much hardship and fun times. The way the crowd loves Pinkie too is great because hey, she's Pinkie! Everybody's in love with Pinkie.

 

 

What I can't accept the most = How the threes grew Back when AJ returned.

 

 

seriously...how?

The same way reset buttons are always hit in cartoons. In this case it was ludicrous that the trees would all die like that to begin with. Even if Pinkie can't do much on the farm, the others can. Big Macintosh could buck all those apples. And the trees will not die in a day. It'd take probably close to a year or three minimum before the trees would be all dead, and I think we all know Twilight wasn't moping in the library for three years before she finally figured out what to do.

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