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Status Replies posted by Sparklefan1234
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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Mhm, yeah- I think I like that one.

I've been working on it for some time...
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think I might go and get some sleep. I've got a bit of a nasty head-ache and I haven't had the chance to relax
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Morning^^
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The more I think about, the more I'm convinced (and thank MrEnter's latest review for F&M for making me think about it more). "We're a Work in Progress" is the worst song of the entire series. Worse than the bungled Cloudesdale Anthem, the CMC showstopper song, the generic songs from EQG1, Unleash the Magic, Awesome As I Wanna Be, or battle for Sugar Belle. Why? Because it tries to teach a moral — with a straight face — that is not only broken from a storytelling level, but harmful and toxic in real-life context, as well.
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In universe, the RM6 publish an autobiography of what they learned through season 4, but the stereotypical straw fans view it entirely as a work of fiction. We saw how the characters learned through every lesson, but their readers didn't, so unless they were very clear they learned and grew, they're going to have a wide array of judgments and opinions of their actions, both good and bad. When your premise is fatally flawed, the lessons run the risk of being hurt, too, because they're the driving point of every single episode. Every episode is narrowed to the lessons they're trying to teach.
The moral within the song is a lazy coverup for really bad writing over the years. Flawed characters are inherently interesting, but characters being flawed is no excuse for them behaving badly or out of character. IRL, a person may regress and forget the lessons they learned. But RL and fiction aren't the same. When a character has to repeat a similar outcome and lesson again and again, the stories feel pointless, and the character becomes more of a waste of time than something relatable or intriguing. FS relearning from her mistakes is really bad writing. Yes, they acknowledge how they're a work in progress, but a declaration of improvement isn't evidence of improvement, and the episode puts forth no effort in showing that, not even when FS mustered the courage to confront her harassers.
Thirdly, it's very hypocritical. This series has a long history of both reforming and redeeming villains and antagonists, like Discord, Sunset, DT, and Starlight. What do they all have in common? Their old behavior wasn't tolerable, and they recognize it. But rather than take it all for granted, they tried to improve and become better people. This song literally handwaves it all as a waste of time, and that it was bad for the show and reformed bad guys to self-improve, a complete contradiction of what FIM preaches. -
Apply this to a real-life context. Liking someone in spite of their flaws is a very reasonable message. But the song literally treats their flaws as part of who they are and what makes special as people. That's not a good message to teach. Acknowledging your flaws is fine, but how do you go about an improve it? By recognizing it and making sure you correct them. Individual flaws make or break friendships or relationships.
To take it from a personal note, I used "objectively" and "factually" way too often in the previous years to the point where I used them more as reactionary buzzwords than concrete conclusions from presented evidence. Not to mention episodes I once wrote off as objectively terrible or bad (or vice-versa)…well, some of that has changed, like Bats! (from calling it good or average initially to borderline-awful), Equestria Games (from declaring it as one of the ten worst of the series then to being poor to mediocre now), Flight to the Finish (from calling it not good initially to being one of S4's big three), or even Stranger Than Fan Fiction (from calling one of S6's worst to one of the better episodes that season). Why? Because I gain more knowledge and understanding of the episodes as time and crappy episodes come by, and my tastes changed as a whole. I gained a better understanding of the craft and became better as a reviewer. (A part of me cringes from how I behaved back then.) Nowadays, I use it much more rarely, only apply it when I'm absolutely sure, and try to not fuck up when using it.
What this moral's stating in a real-life context is how self-improvement is pointless. You're flawed? Good! You're fine as is. Uh, no. "Being yourself" doesn't work that way. This lesson applies perfectly in Aladdin, because Aladdin lived a lie and deceived Jasmine, his friends, Agrabah, and himself. F&M doesn't have that leverage, because the song, its moral, and those who sing it acknowledge their flaws and don't give a shit if they try to change and become better. "Changing and becoming better" being, y'know, one of the show's most important themes.
And how does this toxic moral apply to real life in general? Here's some examples:QuoteHe never tries to self-improve, but that's okay, because I like him because of that.
QuoteHe's a complete asshole, but being an asshole is what makes him so endearing.
QuoteShe's a reckless driver who drives 30 miles over the speed limit and never wears her seatbelt, but I lt it slide, because it's part of who she is.
^ The song and attached moral were teaching that slippery slope of accepting bad behavior without concentrating on its implications. It's legitimately a dangerous lesson to teach, especially to kids.QuoteThey're very abusive to their spouses and children, but they're fine as is, because they're flaws to their personality.
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In universe, the RM6 publish an autobiography of what they learned through season 4, but the stereotypical straw fans view it entirely as a work of fiction. We saw how the characters learned through every lesson, but their readers didn't, so unless they were very clear they learned and grew, they're going to have a wide array of judgments and opinions of their actions, both good and bad. When your premise is fatally flawed, the lessons run the risk of being hurt, too, because they're the driving point of every single episode. Every episode is narrowed to the lessons they're trying to teach.
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Mhm, yeah- I think I like that one.

I've been working on it for some time...
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I'm off to bed too. Good night folks.
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Thank You, Everypony!
Because of you, I now have the highest overall Brohoof count on the *entire* forum!

I appreciate every, single one of you & am extremely proud to call you my friends.

*HUGS THE ENTIRE FORUM*

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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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Thank You, Everypony!
Because of you, I now have the highest overall Brohoof count on the *entire* forum!

I appreciate every, single one of you & am extremely proud to call you my friends.

*HUGS THE ENTIRE FORUM*

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I think every time we post in that Status Update Pirate Pony gets a notification.

Maybe, talking here would be better.
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Thank You, Everypony!
Because of you, I now have the highest overall Brohoof count on the *entire* forum!

I appreciate every, single one of you & am extremely proud to call you my friends.

*HUGS THE ENTIRE FORUM*

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Good night, everypony!
(Falls asleep in my mommy's hooves)
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I've totally been having a great Saturday, I most definitely have not just been sitting scrolling through the same YouTube sub feed and feeling hollow
That'd be saaaaaaad


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Thank You, Everypony!
Because of you, I now have the highest overall Brohoof count on the *entire* forum!

I appreciate every, single one of you & am extremely proud to call you my friends.

*HUGS THE ENTIRE FORUM*
