GeekyPsycho

I guess what bugs me is that there aren't really separate words, or classifications to differentiate sapient from non sapient. We call ourselves "humans" to differentiate from non sapient "apes" or "monkeys", but in the show, both Capper and Opalescent are referred to as "cats". There is no separate species to distinguish between sapient and non sapient.

Thank you The show often brings in sapient characters of the same species as a non sapient creature, only when it will add flavor to the defining of that character, will add diversity and flavor to the story, or is necessary for the plot. In evolutionary and survival terms, none of it makes much sense. There may be some flukes in which something lines up, but I don't think the writers thought it all through. That is an interesting observation. I believe they also referred to them as parrots in the movie. Captain Celeano herself was originally designed to be a harpy, and "Celeano" comes from a harpy from Greek mythology.. Nevertheless, they went ahead and branded her as a parrot.

Ahhh. I haven't read any of the comics, so I wouldn't know. They were probably trying to be more thematic when they convirted the story over to the big screen. But why then keep the multicolored feather sail? Perhaps they (involuntarily) shed their different colored feathers when they felt weaker and something less? A physical response to emotional trauma? But my guess is they really didn't plan to explain the feather colors.

I guess I meant what separates species from themselves? (Cats from cats, birds from birds).

I love that shot. It was very horse-like and natural. And it was so sweet the way Twilight clung to her in a protective way, and Tempest still retains that look of independence and poise. I really like how even after she was converted to good in the very last scene, she still held an air of confidence and dignity. Her character changed without losing her identity.

There is an increasing number of sapient animals outside of Equestria, of which are non-sapient within Equestria. For example, Capper is sapient, but Opalescence isn't. Captain Celaeno is sapient, but Fluttershy's birds aren't. Within Equestria, ponies, griffons, dragons, buffalo, and cows are sapient, as well as other various appearances by episode. Are there certain laws governing sapient versus non sapient? If so does this apply to birth place, genetics, or by temporary location? What defines something as Sapient or Non Sapient in the My Little Pony universe?

But we haven't seen any sentient blue, purple, or pink parrots. They are all green and red, or yellow. And they don't really carry around items of this color. Other than the sail, the entire ship tends to stick to the green, red, yellow, and brown color scheme.

Why does Captain Celaeno's ship have a sail of multicolored feathers? We see color outside of Equestria is rare ( pastelus coloritis ). Even the pirate crew doesn't have much diversity among themselves- aside from the captain, they are all green and red, and they wear an occasional brown or yellow. It interesting that you rarely see blue, purple, or pink, yet they have multicolored feathers that spring from their ship... They had those feathers long before Rainbow Dash came along... within the show, there is no cannon for (sentient) blue, pink, or purple birds. How did this become a symbol of their identity? What could be the source of these rainbow feathers as their parrot pirate symbol?

As I said, rainbows mean different things. I pointed to the rainbows as a symbol of boldness, not strictly and lgbt+ symbol. And: Not asking for arguments sake. I'm genuinely curious... what about the rainbow feathers the pirate crew had stored away? We see color outside of Equestria is rare ( pastelus coloritis ). Even the pirate crew doesn't have much diversity among themselves- aside from the captain, they are all green and red, and they wear an occasional brown or yellow. It interesting that you rarely see blue, purple, or pink, yet they have multicolored feathers that spring from their ship... They had those feathers long before Rainbow Dash came along... within the show, there is no cannon for (sentient) blue, pink, or purple birds. How did this become a symbol of their identity? I'm in no way implying it's lgbt. I'm genuinely wondering what could be the source of these rainbow feathers as their parrot pirate symbol?

Just gotta stick to fanfic

Like I said... "I don't think it's exclusively one thing or another. I do think it's about accepting one's identity, as I said, "lgbt+ or not". The message is generic. I was merely noticing gay pride themes. Gay pride is a thing of culture, and in this case not an explicit message, but rather an underlying societal truth with tones of that culture." I know this was not what they were aiming for. It is simply a theme.

I meant in no way to say that Rainbow Dash is gay. Nor Captain Celeano for that matter. I know sexuality is explored in depth with MLP. I was looking at it in a thematic way, not a "are they gay" mayhem. I insinuate no labels on the characters, sexual or otherwise. And I agree with you. It bothers me when people assume Rainbow Dash is gay because of the rainbows, and the fact that she's a tomboy, instead of actually looking at her relationships and how she interacts with others. Not so sure about guessing sexuality based on anti stereotypes either... I'm not sure if that's what you meant, or you do see AJ as gay based on her relationships and interactions? I actually find it refreshing that (for the most part), they avoid the mane six having crushes or expressing romantic or sexual attraction, and focus on individual relationships without labeling them. It's interesting to see how they blur the friendship line. But I wish too that they could be more open. I have found some complex issues in MLP that are uncommon for children's shows. But they are always solved more easily than the real-life issues But MLP has to be optimistic. And they have to slip the word "friendship" in at least five times in an episode.

As I said, the rainbows were not part of my main points. And I understand rainbows have many different meanings, both within MLP and in the real world. And this was a feeling I received by merely watching the movie casually. I later delved into the root of this feeling with this analysis. And no, I don't think that's what they were going for.

I agree. I don't think it's exclusively one thing or another. I do think it's about accepting one's identity, as I said, "lgbt+ or not". The message is generic. I was merely noticing gay pride themes. Gay pride is a thing of culture, and in this case not an explicit message, but rather an underlying societal truth with tones of that culture. It's important to note the difference between intent and perception. When watching the movie, I thought about how different people might perceive the scene. Unlike the television series, the movie targeted a broader audience. To someone who is unfamiliar with the show, this scene is unexpected and impactful. In MLP, rainbows are common and hold a certain meaning, but in the real world, the symbol is more potent. But from my own standpoint, I did feel "gay pride" resonating from the scene. Not because it's Rainbow Dash, or rainbows. I just felt something resonating from the scene. Something about the animation and the crew's facial expressions... To be honest, that was what really spoke to me. When I analyzed the scene, it was the song's lyrics and rhythm, the execution of the scene, and the context. The rainbows were just a plus

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1. This scene is about being yourself and not letting authority or society define you. The scene is about the scallywags, especially Captain Celaeno taking back who she is, and giving the finger to the authority (the Storm King). They have been pressured to suppress the pirate part of themselves, literally covering it up with the Storm King's banner, and leaving symbols of their identity locked away: Celaeno's hat, a hook, a cap, a floaty. Rainbow Dash swipes away the banner to reveal a beaming picture of Captain Celaeno when she was filled with pride in herself, and pride in being a captain. When she begins singing, you see her look at this picture of herself with a pained look. She longs to be that person again. 2. The Storm King, and his book of orders. This could be equated to authority, and it's expectations and rules people must follow. To a certain extent, his book of orders could be paralleled to the bible, and the idea that it must be followed word-for-word. At one point, Rainbow Dash tosses the book overboard. That would be a strong religious and political message. I think the book was perhaps more loosely a symbol of societal rules. And Rainbow says "to heck with it". 3. The lyrics. Let go of your "fears and doubts", and let the light within "shine for all the world to see". In order to come out of the closet, you have to let go of fears and doubts. "Don't let them rob you of who you are". Again, don't let others define who you are, or take your identity away. " It's time to break the shackles free". It's time to push back. "And start living like the brave and the bold". "'It's the time to let our colors fly". 4. Rainbows are not exclusively a symbol of LGBT, but they are a symbol of diversity, and boldness. The scallywags reveal a colorful array of feathers sprouting from their ship, and they all straighten up with slight smiles of self-confidence. 5. The boldness. When Rainbow Dash let off her sonic rainboom, she alerted everyone within miles. That takes guts. Albeit, this was stupid on her part, (she put the crew, the mane six, and spike in danger). 6. The fact Rainbow Dash's actions had a negative effect. Sometimes when someone comes out of the closet, it will be recieved negatively, and at times these negative reactions can be violent or extremely harmful to this person. When Rainbow Dash alerted Tempest to their presence, they became an easier target. I understand this song is a vague and universal message. It could apply to anyone. And I think that was the intention. Regardless of this, can you recognize any lgbt+ or pride themes within this song/scene? Has anyone else noticed? EDIT: I do think it's about accepting one's identity, as I said, "lgbt+ or not". The message is generic. I was merely noticing gay pride themes. Gay pride is a thing of culture, and in this case not an explicit message, but rather an underlying societal truth with tones of that culture. I meant in no way to say that Rainbow Dash is gay. Nor Captain Celeano for that matter. I know sexuality is explored in depth with MLP. I was looking at it in a thematic way, not a "are they gay" mayhem. I insinuate no labels on the characters, sexual or otherwise. It bothers me when people assume Rainbow Dash is gay because of the rainbows, and the fact that she's a tomboy, instead of actually looking at her relationships and how she interacts with others. This is not meant to be an assumption of sexuality of characters, or the writers' intent.

Rainbow Dash = asexual aromantic with one exception: Pinkie Pie Pinkie Pie = homosexual panromantic (I think she loves Rainbow Dash, but I think she's also polyamorous and maybe they have an open relationship?) Fairly certain about those two. Rarity = Demisexual biromantic Applejack = I feel bicurious homosexual? Twighlight = bisexual, and aside from Equestria Girls, I'd like to say aromantic Fluttershy = she feels like an asexual or heterosexual tease