Stoner Spike

I know that feel, bro! Like, that happiness and joyful feeling...right? I dunno exactly how to describe it...curse my failure to find words.But, yes, it's an amazing feeling, ain't it? You, sir, have read my mind. Also, this seems relevant to this topic: http://www.welovefine.com/2289-phd-in-adorableness.html

Well, it depends on what you mean. If you're referring to things like fan art and fiction, then yes, it's alright by me (except for the all-too-often occurrence of stumbling across something...scary, while looking at fan art). If you mean humanized ponies in the show, it would technically be the same, but with a different title, I guess. But even though it'd be roughly the same thing, I've got to say no to that one... Erm, as to how they would look...well, results may vary. Also, confusing title is confusing. Explanatory poll is explanatory.

Not at all surprised about this, actually...MLP became increasingly successful after FiM came out, it was only a matter of time before someone went and used it in their favor. Frankly, those people aren't quite soulless, they're just being human. It's really nothing to have a seizure over. Sure, what they did was illegal and awfully mean, but the law will catch up with them eventually. Not to say enigmatia didn't have a point, though...they forgot the kids that are fans of the show/toys as well. I've got to agree that the people who are either so eager to have these things or just want them for profit are selfish turds...but hell, we can't do much about it other than wait. Mark my words, karma'll come and bite 'em in the butt when they least expect it.

All of these questions will be answered in the battle that will never take place.

I'd be surprised if we hadn't damaged it significantly by the time we could manage taking them prisoner. If we had, they probably wouldn't care for the last building standing or whatever, seeing as most of the city was destroyed, and they likely won't have a chance to rebuild, since humans are likely to take advantage of this until they die. Plus, all of this is only possible if we invade and manage to conquer in the first place. Well, enslaving cute, colorful ponies is where I draw the line. You have to be mean beyond measure to be able to do that and not feel any guilt or regret.

Yeah, with enough time we can do that, but we're only talking present and near future. Again, I doubt they'd actually work. I, for one, would rather die than serve someone or something against my will.

Steam level only. Explain the references to tanks, Pinkie's party cannon (which would be very strange if there wasn't a working combat version), and the analysis computer in Twilight's basement. So the unicorns do have some power, then. I never did say Celestia or Luna couldn't be overcome, but it would take A LOT to do so. They are goddesses. I doubt that the only thing they can do (which even if it were would be plenty of ability on its own) is move a star and a moon. The only thing that has actually taken them down is another extremely powerful being (Discord, the Nightmare [which took 1000 years for Luna to turn into], and Chrysalis [who was becoming constantly more powerful by feeding off of Shining Armor's love for Cadence]). Giant hunks of metal loaded with explosives probably wouldn't be much of a problem. Alright, well, he discorded Fluttershy. I'll just go with (can't quite recall who said this) that if he got released, both sides would probably royally fucked. You can't really say that given the opportunity to screw with both sides that he would only go for one, and even if that were the situation, that he would go with helping the humans by default. Going by what you said, Equestria isn't as big as it seems anyway. After all, we've only seen two cities, and heard of a few more, plus it seems to be sparsely populated. Why would getting a message be a problem with pegasi and unicorns around? You can't acquire magic. Unless you enslave the unicorns. And that's just morally wrong. Slavery's illegal for a reason, eh? So, you can't rule the universe. Even if you did enslave them, they are a peaceful species, so they probably wouldn't use their powers for ill-intended purposes only. Unless the humans had some machine that could harvest and use magic (which we're talking present and near-future here, making it impossible to develop a machine that can take energy and use it to do things that would naturally be bending the laws of physics, gravity, and many others), then the invasion would really be pointless, because of the amount of cash you'd have to spend in order to get the materials for everything; research and build a giant space travel vehicle, get the fuel for it (which on its own would probably be well over the hundred thousands), food, water, shelter, troops' payroll, war machine building, weapon creation, machines to harvest the resources in Equestria (which is only a country, and if what you say is true, is also small, therefore resource reduction), perhaps the materials to colonize in Equestria, and the fuel for a trip back home (and the materials for a new vehicle if the one made isn't reusable, along with new fuel tanks and replacement parts for anything that may have been damaged during an invasion, plus people to build the new fuel tanks and possibly the new vehicle). Speaking of the vehicle, how will you manage to load all of this junk onto it, let alone get it off the ground? I think I've listed enough. If that isn't convincing enough, I'll keep going, including details. We're talking hundred millions, maybe billions, maybe trillions. Yes, we can definitely afford this, can't we?

This may seem very redundant of me, but I have to again say that even without the changelings banging on it, Shining Armor's shield would have collapsed anyway with Chrysalis weakening him the whole time. And undoubtedly, humans WILL try to kill the unicorns, and the unicorns WILL try to defend themselves. How they go about this, I haven't a clue, as I couldn't speak for them, but they will try. Not always will that stray bullet make a head shot. Again, we've only seen two cities, Ponyville and Canterlot. A country wouldn't be made up of only two cities. For numbers, I'll give that the entire world population would made them fold under the pressure of sheer numbers, but I doubt that the whole world would support the invasion, and remember that 1 pony does not equal 1 human. Yet again, we've seen multiple references to technology we have combat-wise, such as tanks, cannons, etc. I'm assuming the only thing that we have which they aren't familiar with already are airplanes and helicopters. I doubt they wouldn't know how to defend themselves against the former, though I do doubt the latter. Uh...yeah. Lulu and Tia, was it? They're practically goddesses, and if they aren't, then they're demigoddesses. They're capable of moving the moon and the sun, and assuming that their sun and moon are the same size as ours, that's a lot of matter to move at a hell of a distance. Oh. And Discord is a dick, but you have to be a pretty big dick not to fight for your home. +1 factor in this: COST. Yes, we have all of this pointy magical metal stuff, but we need to be able to afford whatever we send in, and if we expend more than we will gain, then the invasion is pointless. I'll just give this last bit; we can only predict some factors, but unless this actually happens, there is no way to know. Equestria would win :3

Except my house is completely defenseless, so dozens of that ship bombarding the hell out of my house would likely be chaotic not only on my house, but likely the rest of the neighborhood. And I've admitted to the fact that not all unicorns are as strong as the Sparkle family, and that not all pegasi are as fast as Rainbow Dash. It should be fair to assume that they do have some degree of ability, though. And besides Discord, Equestria still has Celestia, Luna, and the Elements of Harmony. I've already explained my thoughts on this.

You don't think Discord would fight to defend Equestria? I know he's a troll, but he can't be that mean. The changelings were banging at the shield Shining Armor had put up for a long time, while Chrysalis was weakening him as well. The shield would have collapsed even if the changelings hadn't been attacking it from the outside. Magic has defensive properties, and it should have offensive properties, though not seen in the show (It's My Little Pony, for Christ's sake). I would bother explaining in another wall of text, but I find doing this easier.

@Dreamwalker It's not solid fact that the chaos must be near the statue for Discord to break free; and even if it were true, as Veiled Enigma said, I'm sure a large amount of ruthless bipedal creatures killing everything in sight would stir up enough chaos for Discord to be set loose, even if he were on the other side of the planet. And I would quote myself in response to the weapon posts above, but I reckon you've already read the rest of the thread.

And let the pressure down on the ocean floor crack it open And even if that doesn't work, I'm pretty sure he'll bust open because of all the chaos that will take place if humans attack!

That's true, a shield should weaken by taking continual hits, but if a unicorn expends enough energy maintaining the shield, it shouldn't be affected much, if any. When they run out of mana, though, I'll admit to them being screwed if nopony else is there to help, which I hope will never happen. And I had thought that it was possible to trigger on impact because I've seen many explosives trigger by an impact on a hard surface (some fireworks, some types of grenades, etc.). Not sure about the proximity triggering, though. I don't consider many other things possible aside from a timed explosion (with, as you mentioned, a system detecting the distance from the target and calculating the approximate impact time or something like that) and one that triggers when a distance is reached between the weapon and the target. Haven't that much knowledge on how all of this works, anyway. I find Minecraft more interesting than explosives In all seriousness, if I was a pony being shot at, I'd probably hide behind Discord's statue and wait for it to crack open.

It may only be the Sparkles, but we can't be sure. It'd be a little strange if unicorns only could use their magic offensively, don't you think? An indestructible shield should be possible, certainly not as large as Shining Armor or Twilight Sparkle could cast, but at least large enough to encase the unicorn. Bullets, there's no specific method I mentioned for knowing they're coming. At a close range, though, sound is out of the question, and sight may be. It's still possible to see a glint from the bullet. A pegasus' or an earth pony's best bet would be to keep moving. And yes, I would argue that Rarity is weaker than most, because she owns a boutique and all. I never said anything about stopping bullets with magic, but the force field should do that by default, unless of course a unicorn has been using it forever and is running low on mana. Yeah, I wasn't too sure on the impact-triggering missiles remark. I had assumed it was an old method of detonation, due to some simulations I've seen. If the ignition of the explosives inside wasn't fast enough, yes, I think the missile would be destroyed before it even had a chance to detonate. They generally trigger from proximity, correct?

Alright. I've read over all six long pages of this thread. First, I'd like to say that I'm amazed at how confident you all are in the military. Now, to start. Every time a human supporter is given the scenario in which a pony escapes, it always ends up with a bullet in its head. This would never happen by default. If it's a unicorn, temporary force field, if it's a pegasus, it can dodge, and if it's an earth pony, the same rule applies as if it were a pegasus. You can't always be 100% confident that your bullet will hit the target perfectly, because it just won't happen. Humans are prone to making mistakes. And I also take into account the fact that an earth pony or pegasus can't always dodge a bullet, either. If they do, hooray, and if not, a tear will be shed. I reckon that pegasi are much more capable of dodging things than an earth pony, so I'd have to say their chances at life are 50-60%. As for an earth pony, likely 30-40% (maybe less). After that, we have the issue of nuclear weapons. I'd like to say that the "Shining Armor's field was destroyed by changelings banging on it" argument isn't true. Shining Armor was exerting a large amount of energy, and the field required some degree of concentration, but do note that upon the field breaking, it was already extremely weak. Chrysalis was weakening him the entire time, and the field wouldn't have lasted much longer even without the changelings banging on it. In truth, I'd have to go with the reasoning that a nuclear strike wouldn't easily penetrate a unicorn's force field, and if the unicorn in question has half the magical ability of Twilight Sparkle, then he or she should be able to slow the missile or redirect it altogether. Yes, some missiles detonate by proximity, some by impact, and some by timer, and in this case an impact missile wouldn't likely receive a great enough impact force to detonate if it has been slowed down, rendering it useless. If redirected, it wouldn't take much more effort to make it fly back to where it came from, even if very slowly, in my opinion.One detonating from proximity wouldn't be likely to make it past the unicorn's force field, and one detonating by a timer would explode in the air if slowed. And logical reasoning dictates that if a nuclear missile can't penetrate the field of a unicorn, neither can a bullet. As for a pegasus, I'll go with the fact that a winged, quick-moving, and agile creature would be able to dodge a much larger, bulky missile. With warfare already happening, I doubt the unicorns on the ground wouldn't have some sort of shield up. As for an earth pony, the chances of surviving a missile are less likely, but who would directly lock a nuclear missile onto one organism? Your answer for grenades is here as well. Explosives as such are thrown, and detonate either on impact or once the spark lights the explosives inside. Seeing as they are thrown, and humans have lesser physical limitations than ponies, the grenade can be easily redirected unless launched at high speeds from a machine. And then, refer to my bullet and missile reasoning above. The basic things are there. Ponies won't be completely impervious to what humans throw at them, but are perfectly capable of providing a fight. Us humans will mostly rely on explosives, strategy, and bullets, if I'm not mistaken, and that can be matched by the brain power of certain ponies and the abilities of these creatures altogether. After that, we've noted that ponies are familiar with some modern technology. Early computers (that analysis machine in Twilight's basement), tanks, cannons, and light artillery (guns and the sort, which should be included by default considering tanks are available) are some of the things they are already familiar with, if not already have, and will quickly be able to know the potential of our weapons (if this is a present and near-future experience). Equestria has two goddesses (if not, then demigoddesses) that have enough magical power to move giant celestial bodies a great distance away at unfathomable speeds. Why not crash a large object (NOT THE SUN OR THE MOON) into invading forces? And yes, a bullet to the head would be fatal, even to them, but I doubt a bullet hole anywhere else in the body couldn't be repaired rather quickly, as goddesses (or even demigoddesses) should have some degree of healing ability by default. If the bullet penetrates the brain, they will almost certainly be damaged majorly, if not killed, but taking into account that they have magical ability far beyond that of a normal pony, the chances to occurrence of a bullet penetrating the brain are very VERY slim. And I doubt that once somepony notices that there is a major threat to the country and/or the world that they will hesitate to alert the princesses. As for dragons and other non-pony creatures, dragons have bulletproof scales, griffons have similar, if not congruent flying abilities as pegasi, zebras are like earth ponies with less strength, the same applies to mules, donkeys, and other members of that family. Parasprites may be able to wreak havoc on the human machines if used correctly. Animals will undoubtedly fight back if they know their world is in danger. And, finally, we have a certain being named Discord. Note that Discord was only IMPRISONED in stone, not TURNED INTO stone, meaning that if the barrier breaks, a certain being will be set free, and that being (pardon my language) can do whatever he wants without giving a flying fuck about physics, universal laws, or any other thing. I'm sure that if he saw that the place (though the inhabitants of that place imprisoned him) he previously called a home was in danger, he'd do whatever he could (everything) to fight whatever was killing it. Unless, of course, Discord is the biggest dick in the universe, which I doubt anyone could be that big of a dick (bad enough on the human's part for attacking a beautiful and peaceful land in the first place). Discord, the Princesses, and magic solidify my opinion on who would win in a complete invasion. But I have one final question for you Earth supporters to answer. Should this ever come true, certainly, you have plans for everything, but where the hell will you get the money to do all of this? Imagine how many tons of resources it would take to make all of this and transport it to another star system. Like, really? You'll waste that much to invade another country for resources? For real? Please let me know if I've missed anything!

Eeyup, a human invasion on Equestria would certainly fail. Ponies are able to redirect projectiles, we won't have that many people fighting for us (because I'm sure that many people will refuse to invade a beautiful and seemingly defenseless world), we may be very technologically advanced, but face it, horses with magical abilities and wings. You can't tell me that we're more biologically advanced. And even if we were technologically advanced enough to send troops to another planet, let alone travel outside of the solar system (under the circumstance that Equestria is on another planet not in the solar system), we wouldn't have the whole world fighting to take control of Equestria, but Equestria would likely have the entire population (or at least what good we've seen) fighting off the invading forces. We've only seen the population of Ponyville and Canterlot as of now, imagine how many more magically capable unicorns or pegasi capable of flying there are. And even after that, earth ponies like Applejack with physical strength beyond what we've ever achieved. Even with a nuclear strike or something of that sort, I doubt the ponies will be so silly as to let a deadly looking rocket reach impact point. And after that, they can redirect projectiles, rendering grenades, bullets, and things like that ineffective. Even with a surprise attack, we could only hope to kill as much as possible, and then the fight would begin, and for reasons explained above, we would die. So, yeah. Biological Greatness>Technological Greatness.

Code Lyoko - Nicholas and Ferb (Can't remember exactly, so let's just say Sissy's lackeys.)

I'll have to take a look at it, then. I always skip the intros if I ever watch a video from past generations. All I'm saying is that the logic of the show says that the name of a pony generally reflects what he/she looks like and what he/she does. DoodleBoo doesn't seem to follow that logic. And neither do most of the ponies in past generations, I'll add.