Why Are Bronies Disliked?

[SBaby 660]

The threads title is "Why are Bronies disliked", now what I have seen is that when anybody tries to give a legitimate reason as to why people might hate the fandom people on this thread in particular bitch, moan, and complain that "Ohhh not everybody is like that". Look I know that not everybody is like that, but most of this god forsaken fandom is a hypocritcal, asspatting, circle jerk of a fandom, and if anything this thread is a good example of how bronies are.

 

Perhaps that's because every reason that has been given has thus far been anecdotal at best, and really provides no proof of anything, outside of personal experiences which add very little weight to an argument.  It is nothing more than generalizing the whole fanbase, based on a bad experience you might have had at one time.  It happened to me, so this must be how everyone acts.  

 

If anything, this adds weight to the idea that that this thread might have been made specifically to antagonize the fanbase.

 

As I said before, try going to a Sonic fansite or a Pokemon fansite and calling out their entire fanbase like this, and see how long they put up with it.  Really, we're NICE compared to those people.

Edited January 22, 2014 by SBaby

[KarentheUnicorn 218]

My theory on charity is the best charity is the charity you don't talk/brag about. Nobody should have to say, Oh but look what awesome stuff we did; to try and make up for bad things that happen. Doing good things doesn't discredit concerns that people have about the negative stuff, it also doesn't put everyone IN the negative box either.

[Camping Delights 33]

That's because of the fact that every reason that has been given has thus far been anecdotal at best, and really provides no proof of anything, outside of personal experiences which add very little weight to an argument.  It is nothing more than generalizing.  It happened to me, so this must be how everyone acts.  

 

If anything, it is becoming more apparent that this thread was made specifically to antagonize the fanbase.

 

As I said before, try going to a Sonic fansite or a Pokemon fansite and call out their fanbase, and see how long it takes before you're laughed off the forum.

I have been in this fandom for I am going to say 2 years or so, during these two years I have seen hypocrites, liars, asspatting, ego stroking, and yes even pedophilia and low lives, and I am not the only one who has seen this shit anyways, plus you walked into a thread that specifically states in the title that people are going to talk bad about the fandom. Why don't you run along to a thread that only talks about the good things in fandom?

[SBaby 660]

I have been in this fandom for I am going to say 2 years or so, during these two years I have seen hypocrites, liars, asspatting, ego stroking, and yes even pedophilia and low lives, and I am not the only one who has seen this shit anyways, plus you walked into a thread that specifically states in the title that people are going to talk bad about the fandom. Why don't you run along to a thread that only talks about the good things in fandom?

 

Once again, you are merely talking about personal experiences, anecdotes.  This does not add weight to the argument that was being presented in this topic.  Since people in this topic are attempting to blame the fanbase for something that haters do, it falls on those people to provide evidence to support their claims.  So far, we have not seen anything outside of personal experiences.  You are saying it happened a few times, so the whole fanbase must be guilty.  This is nothing but generalization, and for someone who has Phoenix Wright as an avatar, you should know better.

 

As for that last line you posted, 456.

Edited January 22, 2014 by SBaby

[CT-1138 3,180]

Because we're a counter culture; we defy stereotypical gender norms in order to partake in something that legitimately makes us happy. Rather than caring what people think, we proudly stand up and say "Yeah, we're not children 3-12, but we enjoy cute little ponies anyway!" Some people find the thought of going against the norm to be distasteful.

[Camping Delights 33]

Once again, you are merely talking about personal experiences, anecdotes.  This does not add weight to the argument that was being presented in this topic.  Since people in this topic are attempting to blame the fanbase for something that haters do, it falls on those people to provide evidence to support their claims.  So far, we have not seen anything outside of anecdotal experiences.

Ego stroking example :http://www.psfk.com/2012/11/bronies-thank-you-video.html#!sXsNp

Bronies got a fundraiser going just to post a stupid commercial on the hub for the whole world to see.

 

Pedophilia:https://m.facebook.com/austin.fogle.1?id=100000228315347&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Faustin.fogle.1&_rdr

 

This here is TootsieRoll, he has over 1000 pony toys and is dating a 14 year old girl and he is just 20

 

Circle jerking: BronyDoc, enough said there.

 

Hypocrites: Anybody who uses that nice little buzz word in this fandom "Love and Tolerate" but proceeds to not love and tolerate, perfect example of this, the whole Molestia fiasco.

 

May I go on?

[Remi 1,309]

Because we're a counter culture; we defy stereotypical gender norms in order to partake in something that legitimately makes us happy. Rather than caring what people think, we proudly stand up and say "Yeah, we're not children 3-12, but we enjoy cute little ponies anyway!" Some people find the thought of going against the norm to be distasteful.

Again, it's been 3 years since the show came out, I think people don't care about us watching the show, they're just annoyed by us.

[SBaby 660]

Ego stroking example :http://www.psfk.com/2012/11/bronies-thank-you-video.html#!sXsNp

Bronies got a fundraiser going just to post a stupid commercial on the hub for the whole world to see.

 

Pedophilia:https://m.facebook.com/austin.fogle.1?id=100000228315347&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Faustin.fogle.1&_rdr

 

This here is TootsieRoll, he has over 1000 pony toys and is dating a 14 year old girl and he is just 20

 

Circle jerking: BronyDoc, enough said there.

 

Hypocrites: Anybody who uses that nice little buzz word in this fandom "Love and Tolerate" but proceeds to not love and tolerate, perfect example of this, the whole Molestia fiasco.

 

May I go on?

 

You gave four examples (one of which is a commercial for a fundraiser, so people know that there IS a fundraiser), and the whole fanbase is bad, huh?  I can give forty examples of Pokemon fans doing shady and weird underhanded things right now, but that doesn't mean I think the whole fanbase is like that.  You're attacking an entire group based on the actions of a few individuals.  That's called generalization.

 

By your logic, every person on Earth should be executed the next time there's a murder.

Edited January 22, 2014 by SBaby

[Remi 1,309]

You gave four examples (one of which is a commercial for a fundraiser, so people know that there IS a fundraiser), and the whole fanbase is bad, huh?  I can give forty examples of Pokemon fans doing shady and weird underhanded things right now, but that doesn't mean I think the whole fanbase is like that.  You're attacking an entire group based on the actions of a few individuals.  That's called generalization.

 

By your logic, every person on Earth should be executed the next time there's a murder.

I don't think you understand his point. He's trying to demonstrate that this fandom isn't rainbows and butterflies, but that there are assholes in this fandom, as well as in any other. I've known a lot of bronies such as the one's he's mentioned, so you can't say <few individuals>, because there's quite a few floating around in those waters.

 

>implying.

[Camping Delights 33]

You gave four examples (one of which is a commercial for a fundraiser, so people know that there IS a fundraiser), and the whole fanbase is bad, huh?  I can give forty examples of Pokemon fans doing shady and weird NSFW things right now, but that doesn't mean I think the whole fanbase is like that.  You're attacking an entire group based on the actions of a few individuals.  That's called generalization.

 

By your logic, every person on Earth should be executed the next time there's a murder.

And I point again that you are on a thread that clearly states that people are going to hate on the fandom. If you want more examples I can give you more.

 

Porn: Anytime there is a new character introduced 5 seconds later PORN, hell the rule34 page of MLP is over 700 pages.

 

Equesteria Girls: Brownies bitched moaned and complained to no end about it and said "Its the end of the fandom" but once they watched it, they found out they overreacted.

 

Bad Fanfictions: Brownies praise such works as MLD and Cupcakes when really they are mediocre at best.

 

Princess Molestia: Do I really have to say anything here, brownies bitching and whining over a porn blog.

 

Buttons Mom: There is a flash animation and a story of button having sex with his mother.

 

Ponifing Everything: Type in Allied Master computer or any other thing that is not pony related, there will be ponies regardless.

[SBaby 660]

And I point again that you are on a thread that clearly states that people are going to hate on the fandom. If you want more examples I can give you more.

 

Porn: Anytime there is a new character introduced 5 seconds later PORN, hell the rule34 page of MLP is over 700 pages.

 

Equesteria Girls: Brownies bitched moaned and complained to no end about it and said "Its the end of the fandom" but once they watched it, they found out they overreacted.

 

Bad Fanfictions: Brownies praise such works as MLD and Cupcakes when really they are mediocre at best.

 

Princess Molestia: Do I really have to say anything here, brownies bitching and whining over a porn blog.

 

Buttons Mom: There is a flash animation and a story of button having sex with his mother.

 

Ponifing Everything: Type in Allied Master computer or any other thing that is not pony related, there will be ponies regardless.

 

So uh, every person on Earth should be executed because there are alot of murderers?

 

See the problem?  I get that there are idiots in every fandom that try to make life miserable for everyone else.  But you get that with every fandom.  Why target us specifically?  What makes us so special?

[Strings 3]

So uh, every person on Earth should be executed because there are alot of murderers?

 

See the problem?  I get that there are idiots in every fandom that try to make life miserable for everyone else.  But you get that with every fandom.  Why target us specifically?  What makes us so special?

 

Well, the title/question of the thread is "Why are Bronies Disliked?" So it makes sense that he's talking about bronies.

 

And of course, not everyone who calls themself a brony does this, but regardless, it IS acts like he's pointing out that make people dislike the fandom.

[Camping Delights 33]

So uh, every person on Earth should be executed because there are alot of murderers?

 

See the problem?  I get that there are idiots in every fandom that try to make life miserable for everyone else.  But you get that with every fandom.  Why target us specifically?  What makes us so special?

We are special because, we are a fandom that likes a little girls cartoon show.

[LordDiscord 289]

And I point again that you are on a thread that clearly states that people are going to hate on the fandom. If you want more examples I can give you more.

 

Porn: Anytime there is a new character introduced 5 seconds later PORN, hell the rule34 page of MLP is over 700 pages.

 

Equesteria Girls: Brownies bitched moaned and complained to no end about it and said "Its the end of the fandom" but once they watched it, they found out they overreacted.

 

Bad Fanfictions: Brownies praise such works as MLD and Cupcakes when really they are mediocre at best.

 

Princess Molestia: Do I really have to say anything here, brownies bitching and whining over a porn blog.

 

Buttons Mom: There is a flash animation and a story of button having sex with his mother.

 

Ponifing Everything: Type in Allied Master computer or any other thing that is not pony related, there will be ponies regardless.

I agree that cloppers might go overboard with MLP porn, however no fandom is exempt when it comes to porn, I can just as easily run into porn of ''Pokemon'' or ''Adventure Time'' just as much as I could run into MLP porn. I agree it needs to calm down but it is hardly a reason to call us out over.

 

It was far from a overreaction, though the film might not have been as bad, their complains were still justified. It had slow pacing and the villain was disappointing. Also the story was very contrived and felt like it was trying to shove a long story into a short time period.

 

Just because they are ''mediocre'' in your opinion does not mean they are for others nor does it mean the are bad just because you did not enjoy them.

 

This Is where I agree with you here, I never followed the blog post nor did I see the purpose in it, however I found the notion of a perverted Celestia, humorous (though this is my opinion)

 

I have seen worse, incest is nothing new.

 

Seeing a pony video in a line up of unrelated videos does not mean you have to watch it. That is simply complaining because you have to share space with a fandom you don't like.

[FoxyCryptid 4,327]

Of course not. No one is discounting those things. The MLP fandom has tons of great people who do great things, and I've never denied that. But that's faulty reasoning, regarding this topic. It's kinda like saying, "C'mon, Doc! Quit nay-saying my health by calling my arm infected! Have you seen how well my legs work?" One part being fine doesn't mean we get to conveniently ignore the parts that are troubling.

 

Just because many parts of the fandom are good and productive doesn't mean that we need to ignore (and thereby do nothing to fix) the problems the fandom has.

 

Incidentally, Oliver is right about one thing in the quote you posted: If you want to be part of the solution, then be vocal about not being okay with the bad things some subsets of the fandom do. Be open and enthusiastic about the show, absolutely, but don't get swept up in "herd mentality" and forget to be your own person. You wanna make the fandom a better place? Great! Then you reject and denounce bad brony behavior while exemplifying positive behavior of your own. And you very well already might do that, but this post is really directed people generally, not just you.

 

Which I fully agree with, if someone is being a dick in a way that's related to them being a brony, just give them a "not cool man", but also have to try not lower yourself to that level and be immature and bitchy right back, which is what I see many of the "I like the show, but I'm not a brony like those freaks" title do. Wear the term with pride and break stereotypes, don't shun it and let them have it without a fight. 

 

Remember there's both a good and bad way to show brony pride. Have fun, pay tribute, be lighthearted and happy about it instead of condescending and bitchy. 

[Camping Delights 33]

You can all think that this fandom is all lollipops and rainbows all you want, but there is some horrendous shit in this fandom that make furries sound like a better alternative. I said my piece on this subject, I gave you all examples as to why most people and I hate this fandom and if you actually open yours and see through the curtain of "Ohh we are bronies and we break stereotypes and we do good for the community" you will see that this fandom is just covered in shit and we must be the janitors and clean it up.

[FoxyCryptid 4,327]

And I point again that you are on a thread that clearly states that people are going to hate on the fandom. If you want more examples I can give you more.

 

Porn: Anytime there is a new character introduced 5 seconds later PORN, hell the rule34 page of MLP is over 700 pages.

 

Equesteria Girls: Brownies bitched moaned and complained to no end about it and said "Its the end of the fandom" but once they watched it, they found out they overreacted.

 

Bad Fanfictions: Brownies praise such works as MLD and Cupcakes when really they are mediocre at best.

 

Princess Molestia: Do I really have to say anything here, brownies bitching and whining over a porn blog.

 

Buttons Mom: There is a flash animation and a story of button having sex with his mother.

 

Ponifing Everything: Type in Allied Master computer or any other thing that is not pony related, there will be ponies regardless.

 

AMP isn't a porn blog, it's sexual humor. There's never anything worse then R-rated in it.

 

Everything else you just listed is problems every fandom has. I've even seen smutty art of Bugs freakin' Bunny and you don't even want to know the things I've seen in the dark parts of the Pokemon and Anime fandom. The internet allows like-minded people to gather quickly, and that sometimes will go bad. You just have to ignore it and not keep throwing people into the limelight and drawing attention to them. Bitching won't make it go away, it will only make it grow stronger as you attract attention to it. 

You can all think that this fandom is all lollipops and rainbows all you want, but there is some horrendous shit in this fandom that make furries sound like a better alternative. I said my piece on this subject, I gave you all examples as to why most people and I hate this fandom and if you actually open yours and see through the curtain of "Ohh we are bronies and we break stereotypes and we do good for the community" you will see that this fandom is just covered in shit and we must be the janitors and clean it up.

 

We're not denying that, we're just saying it's useless to obsess over said things to to point of anger and depression. Also, the fact you still ride the furry hate train in 2014 shows your level of maturity about the subject because most the sites where furry hate is rampant are shitholes.

 

I know about the problems, oh trust me I do. There's times I want to start passing out boots in asses even as a furry when the drama kicks up. I don't call it quits because I'll be damned if some bullshit is going to run me away form an artstyle and media sub-culture I enjoy. 

I don't think you understand his point. He's trying to demonstrate that this fandom isn't rainbows and butterflies, but that there are assholes in this fandom, as well as in any other. I've known a lot of bronies such as the one's he's mentioned, so you can't say <few individuals>, because there's quite a few floating around in those waters.

 

>implying.

 

There's not anymore or any less of these people than anywhere else. The fact the internet will quickly connect like minded people just makes them more visible because they can quickly group together. It's the same reason outlandish shit like white supremacist forums exist. 

Well, the title/question of the thread is "Why are Bronies Disliked?" So it makes sense that he's talking about bronies.

 

And of course, not everyone who calls themself a brony does this, but regardless, it IS acts like he's pointing out that make people dislike the fandom.

 

Which is true, I agree with some of his statements about how scummy some of those people are. It's his tone and the fact he seems to be condeming the whole thing based on these people that's getting my nerves. 

Edited January 23, 2014 by Shoboni

[Razzmataz 37]

I like this show, as I like other cartoons and shows in general.

I do not consider myself a brony, or a pegasister. Just as I don't have/want a title for liking my other favorite shows.

 

I know others who like the show. They do not consider themselves bronies either.

 

Personally, I am not ashamed of the show, but rather the overly outspoken part of the community, such as those who feel the need to post their love for the show everywhere or argue with those who don't feel the same way they do. And also those that make this show their lifestyle. I don't dislike these people...it's their lives, they can do what makes them happy.

 

But I can't say that every time I see, say, a hoard of grown men wearing pony gear and costumes dancing badly to trap music, I don't cringe incredibly hard...
Essentially, it's that part of the fandom that brings everything down and destroys the credibility for the rest of the fandom.

 

I don't want to be associated with that. A lot of people from the outside look at many of these particular fans as worshiping the show as if it were some cult-like symbol instead of viewing it as simply just a show.
It's a great way to escape the real world for a half hour every so often and just feel nice.
The "love and tolerate" and "join the herd" phrases don't fly with me. I love talking with other fans about the show and for the most part, the people I encounter are pretty down to Earth- but the ones I see in documentaries just...I don't even know.
 

 

 

[Judgement 445]

People don't like bronies because they don't like what they like. I was an anti-brony at one point too. I misjudged bronies, thought they were some pedo freaks and what-not, but that's because I was indoctrinated by the Media. The Journalists breaking their ethics and reporting biased crap is part of what made me become a brony. At first I believed all of that stuff, but then, after 3 years, I was just like: "you know what? I do what I want. If people want to think I'm a pedo for being different than them, then let them." Then I watched my little pony and got hooked. People want something to hate on, and I think bronies are an easy target. It is exactly like "to kill a mockingbird", where everybody in the neighborhood thinks boo radley is some kind of murderer phsyco killer just because he is mentally slow. Then they tell everybody that he is a phsyco and everybody believes them. That's what I think it is like for bronies. People get the wrong idea. No offense to cloppers, as it isn't their fault, but the people that always appeared in the interviews were always cloppers. That is, what I think, the biggest reason for the hate on bronies.

 

I don't mind the haters if they can hate in a way that isn't cruel. They should express their hatred of bronies without calling us names.

 

All the R34 stuff is part of what gives the fanbase a bad name.

Edited January 23, 2014 by Judgement

[Celestial Panzerhund 289]

Because people can't love and tolerate.

[SBaby 660]

You can all think that this fandom is all lollipops and rainbows all you want, but there is some horrendous shit in this fandom that make furries sound like a better alternative. I said my piece on this subject, I gave you all examples as to why most people and I hate this fandom and if you actually open yours and see through the curtain of "Ohh we are bronies and we break stereotypes and we do good for the community" you will see that this fandom is just covered in shit and we must be the janitors and clean it up.

 

Ok.  I've tried being nice, but I'm officially done being nice.  Let me tell you the truth.  And this goes for anyone else on this topic that is whining about the few bad bronies.

 

Every fandom has weasels that cause problems and make it miserable for others.  It doesn't matter where you go.  Ironically, through your need to somehow be a White Knight against all the evil 'BroniesOMG', you've contributed to this.  You're making it miserable for people that likely have nothing at all to do with anything you brought up.  In fact, that's the point of this topic when you think about for more than two seconds.  Its point has become to do nothing but make it miserable for the fans that do come here simply to enjoy something.

 

This fandom isn't perfect, but you know what?  True fans can see past the flaws and appreciate the fandom for what it is.

 

Trying to fix every single problem in a fandom and make every fandom perfect in your eyes is an exercise in futility and also self-centered.  You think you know better than the fans who founded this site and took the time to set this all up, and so you go on topics like this and act like you're better than everyone else by saying 'shame on you for not stopping these bad fans', further proving your own arrogance.  Arrogant, self-centered attitudes don't impress me.

 

 

I'm sorry, but someone had to say this.

Edited January 23, 2014 by SBaby

[Remi 1,309]

It seems to me as that you people are forgetting that this thread is titled "Why Are Bronies Disliked?", and not "Why Do You Bronies Think Bronies Shouldn't Be Disliked?".

[GrimCW 658]

@@Camping Delights,

 

TBH every one of those things you mentioned, I've seen in the aforementioned Sonic, Pokemon, and pretty much any other fan group. So.. wheres the big deal? 

This is actually far worse in the anime fan bases. They've entire shows dedicated to fully/partially nude under age characters being placed in sexual situations rather constantly.

 

Ever seen Dog Days? 14yo princess dog girl and 8yo boy. With a number of nude scenes with its characters.

Strike Witches? oldest characters in it as a main part of the cast is 18, and there are only 2 of them out of 12.  Few, if any, female cast members even wear anything aside from a shirt and panties. Constant homosexual over tones and plenty of nudity.

 

Compared to MLP, this whole genre of television is far worse, let alone the fans of these shows.

 

 

 

Pedophilia:https://m.facebook.c...in.fogle.1&_rdr

 

 

Given theres barely an age difference there, and how close they actually are. Its a legitimate state of it as long as they don't go to far. Also, it only really could be considered pedophilia if he ends up leaving her by the time she turns 17. As well as unless there is a sexual relationship/attraction at current, than that actually does not make him a pedophile by definition. Just being together does not equate to this. Now your just being slanderous.

 

Regardless, any other age group above 20 and it would be "fine" with such an age gap, but just because the age difference is there now thats going to brand him? To boot, how is this even remotely related to the fan base of this show? One person does not represent the entirety, nor do a select few.

 

 

It seems to me as that you people are forgetting that this thread is titled "Why Are Bronies Disliked?", and not "Why Do You Bronies Think Bronies Shouldn't Be Disliked?".

 

And you've still yet to read the opening post it would seem.

 

 

 

So what do you think about this, fellow bronies?

Edited January 23, 2014 by GrimCW

[Lonely 93]

i dont know because we always talk about ponies and draw fanart 

[LordDiscord 289]

I am starting to feel this thread has veered WAY off track here. This was only meant to discuss why the outside hates us, yet some has turned it into a flamewar. Flamewars ruin threads, they are not needed and should not be instigated, sometimes its better to leave things alone than it is to rave on and on to someone that has their mind already made up.