Alicorns

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

So i have a question. the question will be asked after a quick breifing/.....

 

so its a big thing to be an alicorn. aka awesome OP powers and the likes- aka really annoying because EVERPONY is one so it seems. I've tried to avoid being an alicorn for my oc's because its so over used, so , lectured by friends.  and i can see what they mean, simply, you'd have to earn the right to be an alicorn by certain means or other.  you just arn't born to be one- are you? can alicorns created by fans be cannon because of whatnot? or do they have rules they have to get to so not EVERYpony is one????

 

on that note, Lauren Faust's oc is an alicorn because she created the show that is widely known and was known as the mother of it.

 

I am thinking of making my newest oc,North Star an alicorn. 

 

does that work, or does their need to be an absolute rule to follow????

 

see the thing is Ive always wanted to fly and lead the way of those lost, since i myself was lost, and ive gone through everything, from domestic abuse, miscarrages, bulling, suicide, all that, and yearning for hope and a light, much similar to myself, but i want the magic to bring what i create to bring light and hope to those who see it as well.... and im putting those trials, and tribulations into her character development into an alicorn.

 

Backstory: she was born into a Royal family, toward the end of their reign, known as the Holy, who helped shaped the planet which most of us havn't acknowledged.

When the holy where developing the skies, and even before luna was learning to raise the moon her self for the first time, a new star, called the North star was born. thats when North, came into play, though many centeries later, as the holy where of the most ancient and longest lifespans recorded. The alicorn known as the mother of the galaxies, and last ruler of the holy, gave birth to her in her last years, and gave her the name North and the duty to watch over those who were lost . her mother died of old age and sent North at a young age, in the care of some unicorn breed that no longer exists, and in a place that most ponies had never seen an alicorn before.

 

 

this is what North's body looks like, thin legs, agile and slender  and feathers hoofs and a tail exactly as depicted in the picture above. 

 

 

 

she earned her cutie mark when she began to serve those lost scared and beginning to loose hope in everything during a dark war that waged early in discord's rein.

 

 there were many who scoffed and laughed and beat her because of her wings as she grew up,and any pony that knew of alicorns, only knew that they only existed in a faraway land called equestria and that they were roaylty only. . she went through hell and back because of her difference, but she stood her ground proudly and didn't whine or cry over the pain. instead she looked at it with insight, and took life as a challenge to become better. she believes that what ever happned, good or bad, happened for a reason, and that in time it has made her a stronger pony., and while she went through ever trial imagined, including, but not limited to, loosing those closest to her, trauma, abuse, bulling, loneliness, war and the weight of everypony relying on her to get the job done, she was found still serving those she knew could benifit and find happiness and a life full of peace once again. 

she take pride in herself, even though she's different and even though there were at times, ponies who didn't accept her difference.

 

 she never cries over her pain. she takes it in as a challenge. and accepts that what ever happened, happened for a reason. she looks to those trails and has a positive attitude toward them. they made her stronger and who she is.

 

Other: Despite being an alicorn, the only magic she actually carries is not all great and powerful. I don't believe that because you have wings and a horn that it automatically means you have super powers+ Nope.

 

 Powers : she can create something, either by her words, by her drawings , or by the crafts she makes, and bring them to life to benefit others in bringing happiness to them.

 

-it is pretty much restricted on what she can do, and really benefits the children and those alone the most, but is still very usefull and of great use in her role as royalty.

 

- she can weave a tale and it will become so, but it again is very restricted! she can't say you will become rich and famous and it become so, but she can say you will find happiness, but only if you do these things and the pony has to choose for themselves whether or not it will be so.

            *when she weaves her tales, usually at night, she will create an illusion in the sky for all those there to see, and create, figures and scense to go with the story.

 

- she can't cure major diseases or anything super big like that, but she can heal minor wounds and such, and do your typical average unicorn magic, with some specialties, like a little better then average illusion spells and creativity.

 

- she has no "super nova kill every villain in one shot power" or mary sue blah shtuff, and infact has a difficult time defeating any villain with magic. she uses logic and reasoning rather then relying on her magic to get it done. 

 

 

-however, if any thing she creates or says is created in greed, selfishness or anything that can be harmful or is selfish, it can't be done.

 

- she developed all of what was described and more advanced magic and knowledge over 1000 years into her existence!. so clearly it took her over many lifetimes to achieve it.

 

she is currently so old she lost count, but looks like like she's just breached adulthood (thanks to her royal blood decent)

Edited December 11, 2014 by LightningStormweaver

[Child Of Darkness 285]

 

 

I am thinking of making my newest oc, Foxy(her actually name has not been made cannon or known yet), A cannon alicorn

 

Ok, so you want an Alicorn OC. That's perfectly fine by me. I have an Alicorn OC myself. But, and its a big butt, if you are going for as canon as possible, that could potentially be a big problem. Canon is a sensitive nature and a lot of people don't like the Canon to be broken in any form. So its best to keep clear of that area. You could create a slightly alternate world where your OC fits. I did this as it allowed me to experiment with time lines and events over the course of history, mixing Canon and Non-Canon events together. This I recommend doing as it allows you to be as creative as you want to be.

 

If you still want to make a Canon OC, a Canon Alicorn OC. Be careful what you do, as many people may not like it. They may not say that they do not like it, but a number of people will dislike the breach of Canon.

 

 

 

or hoping that one day my oc can be widely recognized and even featured in MLP

Don't get your hopes too high.

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

 

Ok, so you want an Alicorn OC. That's perfectly fine by me. I have an Alicorn OC myself. But, and its a big butt, if you are going for as canon as possible, that could potentially be a big problem. Canon is a sensitive nature and a lot of people don't like the Canon to be broken in any form. So its best to keep clear of that area. You could create a slightly alternate world where your OC fits. I did this as it allowed me to experiment with time lines and events over the course of history, mixing Canon and Non-Canon events together. This I recommend doing as it allows you to be as creative as you want to be.

 

If you still want to make a Canon OC, a Canon Alicorn OC. Be careful what you do, as many people may not like it. They may not say that they do not like it, but a number of people will dislike the breach of Canon.

 

 

 

Don't get your hopes too high.

 

I knopw chances are like next to none, and i have created a slightly altered world, because, ya know we can, but at the same time it would be nice to know what the rules are for being an alicorn, i figure it can't be all that difficult, right?

[Tameless 979]

It's your OC so if you want an Alicorn, go for it.

[Clover Heart 978]

I think the only time having an alicorn OC matters is if you're role playing. In an RPG, you have to consider that there are other players and rules to the game. Having an alicorn character in an RPG -is- sorta unfair, unless there are agreed upon terms for doing so. Like, for example, you're RPing as characters in the show and someone needs to be Celestia or Luna. Or your method of deciding race is on a number system of sorts (which is an idea I'm a huge fan of, but I don't RP, so...) Otherwise, you just sorta come off as a jerk who's trying to have it all.

 

But if it's just your avatar or you're writing a story, I don't see why anyone should have a problem with there being alicorns. My avatar is an alicorn, as I'm sure you can see. I have sort of a backstory that I'd thought about putting into a comic, but I still have a lot more planning if I'm to do that and I'm not sure if I will. It's a story about identity and destiny.

 

 

My OC is an alicorn duchess as is her mother. Haven't really decided much about the mother. Anyway, as a duchess, she has royal duties as well as a duty pertaining to her magic. However, she just wants to be a singer. From the time she was little, she loved singing. She had always wanted to be a singer and believed that to be her special talent. While giving a performance to a large audience as a filly, she happened to unleash a magic that made everyone really happy. She thought it was for her performance that everyone was so happy, but it was because of her magic. There, she got her cutie mark: a four leaf clover symbolizing happiness, implying that she was to spread happiness, not that she was meant to become a singer. She was devastated at this and the duchess of happiness quickly became one of the most depressed ponies. She, then, became entirely uninterested in magic, never practicing unless commanded and ended up isolating herself. At a celebration, it was her duty to perform her magic across the crowd. Partway through, she couldn't handle being bound to her destiny anymore and ran off. Little did she know that her magic would have prevented a colony of... bad guys... (Yeah, I have to work on the villain a bit) from invading the land. After the celebration, she ran away. Shortly thereafter, the colony, the race of which I've named Apitrists, encroached on the land, feeding on the happiness of anyone they came across. She tries some stuff, meets a gelding unicorn named Midknight Courage, and learns of the Apitrists after a while. She realizes that it's she who must defeat the Apitrist queen. Through her journey, she realizes that destiny doesn't have to just be one thing and you can go about it in your own way. That combined with Midknight Courage's lent strength, they slay the Apitrist queen and restore peace to the land.

 

 

Many people complain about people using alicorns because they're OP. I've tried my best, in this story, to downplay her power and have it come to light only after a lot of hardship and trials. The story in its current state is by no means perfect (sounds way too much like Chrysalis) and I would still need to work on it if I were ever going to make it happen. But my aim was to have it be about the struggles that she goes through and the way that she grows and realizes things about destiny and what it is to be fulfilled and happy in life. Alicorns are accused of being Mary Sues. I've made efforts to try and make her as non-Sue as possible. Again, it's about her growth. And abandoning everyone, she's definitely not perfect.

 

Wow, I really got off on a tangent. I guess my thoughts on it, summed up, are basically this. If it's an avatar, go nuts. If it's a story, use an alicorn if you want but make sure to avoid the common alicorn pitfalls. If it's an RPG, stick with the rules, but err against playing as an alicorn character. It might make the game difficult, unbalanced or unfair to some people.

 

As far as canon goes, the only alicorns in existence are princesses. I especially recommend watching Magical Mystery Cure and studying it in order to get a better idea. Also, I don't remember which one, but one of the comics shows how Cadance became an alicorn. That might be worth checking out for consistency's sake. Not just anyone can become an alicorn. Canon is a difficult thing. My own story totally breaks all kinds of canon. It doesn't matter so much to me cuz I'm doing it for myself, not to please others. But if you wanna be consistent with canon, I think the best place to start is by absorbing as much of the story as you can.

Edited December 9, 2014 by Clover Heart

[skbl17 199]

There doesn't need to be a definite "rule" on alicorns. If you want to create an alicorn, go ahead.

 

Where most alicorns fall flat is the extent to which they are overpowered. When bronies create alicorn OCs, they tend to imagine a pony with Celestia-tier level power without providing acceptable context for why that's the case, which is disappointing. I have no problems with alicorns on their own, but the abilities and traits of the alicorns are cause for concern.

[Child Of Darkness 285]

I knopw chances are like next to none, and i have created a slightly altered world, because, ya know we can, but at the same time it would be nice to know what the rules are for being an alicorn, i figure it can't be all that difficult, right?

Their really are not many rules when it comes creating an OC, like the others said, if it's just for personal things, go nuts. But if you mean to use it in an RP with others, be careful. Alicorns are very powerful and most people see this as an unfair advantage, so its best to give your character a few flaws that hold your character back. Use that rule almost all the time in most OCs anyway.

 

The way to handle the power issue can vary, my way of taking care of it for RPs was a solid backstory explaining the Alicorn Status, how high the power can go and your limits. I limited my Alicorns power by giving him a high sense of honour and fair play when it comes to set battle in an agreed time/ place and reason. Beyond that, I'm free to use all my power, but its best that you limit the Alicorns power usage to that of a gifted Unicorn as the most during most situations, only using Alicorn levels of power in dire situations.

 

This is how I handle the OP title that comes with being an Alicorn.

 

Summary: Don't use all your power, have clear weakness and a detailed backstory helps more than you would belive.

[11th Doctor Whooves 794]

: Since your topic has to do with making an OC, I'm moving it to Octavia's Hall.

 

For future posts and topics, remember that the Everfree Forrest is for Non-MLP and Brony related topics.

[Bird Mom 900]

Alicorn OCs are overused, so I suggest going with a unicorn, earth, or pegasus pony to start with. Get experienced with OC's that are not alicorns at first, and then if you want to try an alicorn, go for it.

 

To make a great OC to start with go here: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-My-Little-Pony-Original-Character

 

Most OCs are based on the OP's personality, looks, etc. If you want, make one that looks like you. When with alicorn OCs they go best in alternate universes and when they aren't royalty, but an alicorn, not the most special thing ever. But make it unique, not over-the-top, unique. Because that is the overall basis of an OC of any fandom.

 

When role-playing, alicorn OC's are rather shunned unless you are playing/acting as a character from the original show itself. If drawing your alicorn to post on public sites such as deviantART or DragoArt do your own style at the least and make it the best quality possible.

 

And for the love of Celestia, do not make it a demon, red and black, or God/Goddess. That shows laziness in the OC creation, for there are a TON on those OCs.

 

(This is just my advice, it's not a RULE for OCs of any type.)

Edited December 9, 2014 by QueenRarity

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

I think the only time having an alicorn OC matters is if you're role playing. In an RPG, you have to consider that there are other players and rules to the game. Having an alicorn character in an RPG -is- sorta unfair, unless there are agreed upon terms for doing so. Like, for example, you're RPing as characters in the show and someone needs to be Celestia or Luna. Or your method of deciding race is on a number system of sorts (which is an idea I'm a huge fan of, but I don't RP, so...) Otherwise, you just sorta come off as a jerk who's trying to have it all.

 

But if it's just your avatar or you're writing a story, I don't see why anyone should have a problem with there being alicorns. My avatar is an alicorn, as I'm sure you can see. I have sort of a backstory that I'd thought about putting into a comic, but I still have a lot more planning if I'm to do that and I'm not sure if I will. It's a story about identity and destiny.

 

 

My OC is an alicorn duchess as is her mother. Haven't really decided much about the mother. Anyway, as a duchess, she has royal duties as well as a duty pertaining to her magic. However, she just wants to be a singer. From the time she was little, she loved singing. She had always wanted to be a singer and believed that to be her special talent. While giving a performance to a large audience as a filly, she happened to unleash a magic that made everyone really happy. She thought it was for her performance that everyone was so happy, but it was because of her magic. There, she got her cutie mark: a four leaf clover symbolizing happiness, implying that she was to spread happiness, not that she was meant to become a singer. She was devastated at this and the duchess of happiness quickly became one of the most depressed ponies. She, then, became entirely uninterested in magic, never practicing unless commanded and ended up isolating herself. At a celebration, it was her duty to perform her magic across the crowd. Partway through, she couldn't handle being bound to her destiny anymore and ran off. Little did she know that her magic would have prevented a colony of... bad guys... (Yeah, I have to work on the villain a bit) from invading the land. After the celebration, she ran away. Shortly thereafter, the colony, the race of which I've named Apitrists, encroached on the land, feeding on the happiness of anyone they came across. She tries some stuff, meets a gelding unicorn named Midknight Courage, and learns of the Apitrists after a while. She realizes that it's she who must defeat the Apitrist queen. Through her journey, she realizes that destiny doesn't have to just be one thing and you can go about it in your own way. That combined with Midknight Courage's lent strength, they slay the Apitrist queen and restore peace to the land.

 

 

Many people complain about people using alicorns because they're OP. I've tried my best, in this story, to downplay her power and have it come to light only after a lot of hardship and trials. The story in its current state is by no means perfect (sounds way too much like Chrysalis) and I would still need to work on it if I were ever going to make it happen. But my aim was to have it be about the struggles that she goes through and the way that she grows and realizes things about destiny and what it is to be fulfilled and happy in life. Alicorns are accused of being Mary Sues. I've made efforts to try and make her as non-Sue as possible. Again, it's about her growth. And abandoning everyone, she's definitely not perfect.

 

Wow, I really got off on a tangent. I guess my thoughts on it, summed up, are basically this. If it's an avatar, go nuts. If it's a story, use an alicorn if you want but make sure to avoid the common alicorn pitfalls. If it's an RPG, stick with the rules, but err against playing as an alicorn character. It might make the game difficult, unbalanced or unfair to some people.

 

As far as canon goes, the only alicorns in existence are princesses. I especially recommend watching Magical Mystery Cure and studying it in order to get a better idea. Also, I don't remember which one, but one of the comics shows how Cadance became an alicorn. That might be worth checking out for consistency's sake. Not just anyone can become an alicorn. Canon is a difficult thing. My own story totally breaks all kinds of canon. It doesn't matter so much to me cuz I'm doing it for myself, not to please others. But if you wanna be consistent with canon, I think the best place to start is by absorbing as much of the story as you can.

i sdidnt think about that- going behind the scences so to speak! Yea I was thinking of giving her the rold as a princess, or my case, queen mother, and the wings would be strong enough to carry her with ease and her magic at a normal unicorn's power. none of that lame op stuff. i want to roleplay as her, but she would have normal unicorn magic and pegasus gifts so to speak. 

 

oih- i feel like i make no sense.... aka i want to be a unicorn with wings... YES! but is mother over all the creations she makes...????? oih... now i lost my own self!

There doesn't need to be a definite "rule" on alicorns. If you want to create an alicorn, go ahead.

 

Where most alicorns fall flat is the extent to which they are overpowered. When bronies create alicorn OCs, they tend to imagine a pony with Celestia-tier level power without providing acceptable context for why that's the case, which is disappointing. I have no problems with alicorns on their own, but the abilities and traits of the alicorns are cause for concern.

 

There doesn't need to be a definite "rule" on alicorns. If you want to create an alicorn, go ahead.

 

Where most alicorns fall flat is the extent to which they are overpowered. When bronies create alicorn OCs, they tend to imagine a pony with Celestia-tier level power without providing acceptable context for why that's the case, which is disappointing. I have no problems with alicorns on their own, but the abilities and traits of the alicorns are cause for concern.

I agree! I feel they need to have earned that right or power to properly have been named Alicorn or so.  my alicorn powers are not near that powerful! Nope. i have no need for it. i only need to control the north star, and have enough magic to bring happiness and smile to ponies through my talents. Much similar to lauren fausts oc. 

Their really are not many rules when it comes creating an OC, like the others said, if it's just for personal things, go nuts. But if you mean to use it in an RP with others, be careful. Alicorns are very powerful and most people see this as an unfair advantage, so its best to give your character a few flaws that hold your character back. Use that rule almost all the time in most OCs anyway.

 

The way to handle the power issue can vary, my way of taking care of it for RPs was a solid backstory explaining the Alicorn Status, how high the power can go and your limits. I limited my Alicorns power by giving him a high sense of honour and fair play when it comes to set battle in an agreed time/ place and reason. Beyond that, I'm free to use all my power, but its best that you limit the Alicorns power usage to that of a gifted Unicorn as the most during most situations, only using Alicorn levels of power in dire situations.

 

This is how I handle the OP title that comes with being an Alicorn.

 

Summary: Don't use all your power, have clear weakness and a detailed backstory helps more than you would belive.

See now thats where i can agree, as long as they rightfully earned the tilte, and only use the power when its dire etremes then sure, but, yes for the most part, i would be a talented unicorn. and many flaws would be included as any normal person/pony would have, though the reason why im so gifted is because i have high functioning autism wich only allows me to focus on what i love the most! so i falter alot in everything else except the trials ive been through- and since ive been through so much im actually considered a leader now place those in the alicorn and you get a perfectly flawed and imperfect alicorn.... yes?

: Since your topic has to do with making an OC, I'm moving it to Octavia's Hall.

 

For future posts and topics, remember that the Everfree Forrest is for Non-MLP and Brony related topics.

My bad- Can you send me the link to the new place? 

[BlinkZ 1,151]

it more the fact taht 80 percent of alicorn OC or just terribly written are and are just the kids going "I coudln't decide so i picked the eon with everything." and then throws in power and crap that makes them unrealistic.

what we need is more zebra oc's

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

 

Alicorn OCs are overused, so I suggest going with a unicorn, earth, or pegasus pony to start with. Get experienced with OC's that are not alicorns at first, and then if you want to try an alicorn, go for it.

 

To make a great OC to start with go here: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-My-Little-Pony-Original-Character

 

Most OCs are based on the OP's personality, looks, etc. If you want, make one that looks like you. When with alicorn OCs they go best in alternate universes and when they aren't royalty, but an alicorn, not the most special thing ever. But make it unique, not over-the-top, unique. Because that is the overall basis of an OC of any fandom.

 

When role-playing, alicorn OC's are rather shunned unless you are playing/acting as a character from the original show itself. If drawing your alicorn to post on public sites such as deviantART or DragoArt do your own style at the least and make it the best quality possible.

 

And for the love of Celestia, do not make it a demon, red and black, or God/Goddess. That shows laziness in the OC creation, for there are a TON on those OCs.

 

(This is just my advice, it's not a RULE for OCs of any type.)

 

Ive done most of my oc's as either of the mane three, so i know them quite well, and i find that her skill is indeed something a little more off to the side, and she definatly wouldnt adress herself as royalty and would interact quite simply like any other pony, just with a unique gift.

 

an admin says this got moved so hold on

it more the fact taht 80 percent of alicorn OC or just terribly written are and are just the kids going "I coudln't decide so i picked the eon with everything." and then throws in power and crap that makes them unrealistic.

 

what we need is more zebra oc's

see now thats cool, but studing would most definatly be required so most wouldnt even touch on it

[Lightning Bliss 1,674]

My OC was a pegasus at the very beginning of it all before turning her into an alicorn. The first reasons of why I did so where on a personal level. I was the first of my silbings to graduate college with a degree, I was also the first to get married in a traditional wedding fashion, nor did I have any kids prior to that (technically still don't have kids either), and throughout all the pains of losing 4 family members in 2010 including my father, surviving the battles between family members over assessts and the grief...I realized that a new path in my destiny had opened up, and wished to express that in my OC/Ponysona.

 

However I realized a massive problem...the fandom frowns upon Alicorn OCs, for good reasons:

 

- Poor Design

- Lack of Developement

- Mary Sue in both abilities and personality

 

So I made rules for myself while adapting my pegasus OC/Ponysona to alicorn status. I wanted her to be acceptable in most eyes of the brony fandom, whether that be RPs or outside. I wanted her to be as close to cannon as possible. But as clearly stated its a sensitive topic, so I leave viewers to decide if she's good for cannon or not, and of course her design...

 

Now design at the end of the day is your choice, whether others like it or not, but of course there's got to be some rules as to not completely scare off those who wish to view your creation. For me I'm an animator and I already violated the number 1 rule "KEEP IT SIMPLE". My OC has all the colors of the rainbow in her mane and tail...She doesn't even have a regular tail like other ponies, its a Lioness tail! And she has huge ears.

 

Why all these odd factors? Because for one, I don't like to be normal, normal is overrated, not to mention I'm not exactly your run of the mill adults. I embrace adventure and childhood, and I still love my style of artwork, even if it includes odd lion tails in just about every piece I do. Therego some may like my OC design...some don't, but there's motive to her design and why I made her the way she is.

 

- She wears goggles because I wear glasses and if I had my way, my real glasses would be reading goggles!

- She has big ears because in RL, I don't...they are small and my hearing is somewhat questionable, always has been since I was 3yrs.

- She has the rainbow colors because it is my favorite color...its the color of peace, unity, magic, and above all, my many loves in my life. (In RPs I'm known as the Alicorn of Peace, but in the brony fandom or The Rift Cafe, I'm known as the Alicorn of Rainbows)

- She has this bizarre tail because she was born that way, and in a bizarre case of destiny, her different attributes to her ears and tail make her more easy to relate to other intelligent beings in Equestria.

 

Needless to say, I love my OC and supposedly others do too, and thats fine by me. What matters at the end of the day is if YOU love your OC.

 

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

she thats more what i want to put into my own oc. i want hr to really reflect me and i want her to be relatable and not your typicl do goodr....

 

 

ive struggled for years with evrything that should have killed me, but im strong, and i keep going and i bring others up, and i lead them vn when im barley keeping myself up. i bring happiness to others through my artistic talents and i bring my imagiination to life to srve othrs, so i rally want to iincorperate that into her, my nw oc. srry for the spellinjg, this laptop's keys are screwy. 

[AmberDust 1,116]

I have a really hard time understanding what you're saying... But what I did figure out is that you obviously don't know what "canon" means.

Seriously, google it.

Anyways...

The reason you shouldn't make Alicorn OCs is because Alicorns are deities (god-like figures) in the world of mlp. Also, they're royalty, and need to serve an important purpose. Important for everypony. Celestia and Luna were supposed to be the ONLY Alicorns in the whole world, and their jobs are literally what keep the world spinning. THAT'S how important they are. If you make an Alicorn OC, it's more than likely that nopony will take it/you seriously, simply because Alicorns are supposed to be very rare and very important to survival...and, chances are, yours isn't, and therefore wouldn't fit into the canon world at all.

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

I have a really hard time understanding what you're saying... But what I did figure out is that you obviously don't know what "canon" means.

Seriously, google it.

Anyways...

The reason you shouldn't make Alicorn OCs is because Alicorns are deities (god-like figures) in the world of mlp. Also, they're royalty, and need to serve an important purpose. Important for everypony. Celestia and Luna were supposed to be the ONLY Alicorns in the whole world, and their jobs are literally what keep the world spinning. THAT'S how important they are. If you make an Alicorn OC, it's more than likely that nopony will take it/you seriously, simply because Alicorns are supposed to be very rare and very important to survival...and, chances are, yours isn't, and therefore wouldn't fit into the canon world at all.

i know you are just trying to help, but that came out- brash- or rude.... you could have said that.... much differently- Like " i don't quite understand what you mean, but, maybe your understanding of cannon is a little off, maybe do some more research?"????????

also , istead of reason NOT to make an alicorn, you could have said, "well, put itnto consideration, alicorns are not ment to be common, so if you do decide to do an alicorn, heres what you need to think about."

 

blame hasbro or the writers then for making more alicorns then nessisarry. Because there is more then a two gods that keep the world inline. aka a set up for princesses/princes for mane things that keep the world in balance: a princess for love, friendship,leadership, dreams, and that really seems to open up the possibilities for more then.... two gods....it seems to me, that roles that keep the earth balanced like those listed above, are more open to having a princess become leader of that role. there is even a queen of greed, aka queen chrysalis, wich may then suggest more types of royalty then what the show shows at the current time.

 

which means, although, yes alicorns should be more rare and actually have a purpose or serious role, (which is what im working on, of which you clearly didnt understand), you are wrong  or clearly off, when it comes to cannon plot it'self. 

your assumption that i will not have a character that plays an important role, although could be assumed because of the entirety or others decisions, is not accurate and the fact that you over looked it entirely, because, 1 only celestia and luna should exist, 2 anyone who creates an alicorn does not do a well job, 3 they are always overpowered and 4 they usually have meaningless roles or plots, therefore means that somehow, you are right and that mine will therefore, never be accepted, anmd that, should it be accepted, it would therefore be only that of maybe 1-5% of the bronies.

 

i do, however, thank you for telling me what it means to be an alicorn, as i will definatly put those in to perspective while i create my Alicorn.

 

however, keep in mind when giving future advice, that you keep an open mind . you came very much across as a closed minded person who looked down on me for creating an alicorn.

 

my alicorn knows all 52virtues by heart, naturally, By exsperience and hard hard work. therefore, whos to say, she does not earn the title of an alicorn? she works soley for the greater good.

 

Also, lauren faust's oc is an alicorn because she created a world where others could live using her talents.

Thats how my oc is, she creates worlds, and imagination in a world that is darkened by other's negativity. she bring hope and light, laughter, and everything you could ever dream for to those who need it:) and she does a FINE job at it.

Edited December 10, 2014 by LightningStormweaver

[AmberDust 1,116]

 

i know you are just trying to help, but that came out- brash- or rude.... you could have said that.... much differently- Like " i don't quite understand what you mean, but, maybe your understanding of cannon is a little off, maybe do some more research?"????????

also , istead of reason NOT to make an alicorn, you could have said, "well, put itnto consideration, alicorns are not ment to be common, so if you do decide to do an alicorn, heres what you need to think about."

 

blame hasbro or the writers then for making more alicorns then nessisarry. Because there is more then a two gods that keep the world inline. aka a set up for princesses/princes for mane things that keep the world in balance: a princess for love, friendship,leadership, dreams, and that really seems to open up the possibilities for more then.... two gods....it seems to me, that roles that keep the earth balanced like those listed above, are more open to having a princess become leader of that role. there is even a queen of greed, aka queen chrysalis, wich may then suggest more types of royalty then what the show shows at the current time.

 

which means, although, yes alicorns should be more rare and actually have a purpose or serious role, (which is what im working on, of which you clearly didnt understand), you are wrong  or clearly off, when it comes to cannon plot it'self. 

your assumption that i will not have a character that plays an important role, although could be assumed because of the entirety or others decisions, is not accurate and the fact that you over looked it entirely, because, 1 only celestia and luna should exist, 2 anyone who creates an alicorn does not do a well job, 3 they are always overpowered and 4 they usually have meaningless roles or plots, therefore means that somehow, you are right and that mine will therefore, never be accepted, anmd that, should it be accepted, it would therefore be only that of maybe 1-5% of the bronies.

 

i do, however, thank you for telling me what it means to be an alicorn, as i will definatly put those in to perspective while i create my Alicorn.

 

however, keep in mind when giving future advice, that you keep an open mind . you came very much across as a closed minded person who looked down on me for creating an alicorn.

 

my alicorn knows all 52virtues by heart, naturally, By exsperience and hard hard work. therefore, whos to say, she does not earn the title of an alicorn? she works soley for the greater good.

 

Also, lauren faust's oc is an alicorn because she created a world where others could live using her talents.

Thats how my oc is, she creates worlds, and imagination in a world that is darkened by other's negativity. she bring hope and light, laughter, and everything you could ever dream for to those who need it:) and she does a FINE job at it.

 

 

 

Very sorry if i came off as rude, it wasn't my intention. I guess tone really changes in typing. u_u I suppose I've just seen a lot of posts like this already and I feel like this information should be widely known at this point. You do understand what I was saying about how Alicorns are supposed to be deities, right? Also, I think Lauren Fawst has the right to make her OC an Alicorn, considering she made up this entire universe. She's definietly an exception.

Anyways...let me try this again.

 

 

A cannon alicorn, based off my artistic self, because through her writing, the plushies and the drawings, she brings ideas. thoughts, Happiness, and Imagination into the souls that read them, have them , or see them so that may find light in a darkened world

 

 

The problem here is that your Alicorn...

1. Is based on youself. Ponysona alicorns give off an impression of massive self-importance. I know everyone wants to be this important and this powerful, and even I've designed Alicorns Ponysonas for the fun of it, but if you're aiming for realism (canonism?), well...Just keep in mind that alicorns are gods. By making youself an Alicorn, you're putting yourself above not only all of the canon characters, but above everyone else who's ever made a non-alicorn ponysona. That's probably why most people dislike Alicorn OCs so much.
2. Her powers aren't crucial to survival. I like art and imagination and inspiring hope as much as the next person (check out my OC for example), but it's not really on par with harmony, love, and keeping the world turning...which are the responsibilities our canon Alicorns have.
3. In your initial post, you didn't really tell us anything about her. Maybe that's why I was so quick to pounce eariler (sorry)--because you gave us her physical specialness, but your didn't give us any persoanlity, any backstory, or anything else. It feels like you thought of appearance and powers FIRST, which is a big red flag. You know what I mean? It wasn't until I sent you my opinion that you tried to redeem her/explain why she deserved to be an Alicorn. Maybe you ought to put a more detailed bio in your Original Post to help clear things up. Again, sorry.

 

...You said in your reply that her power is actually creating universes? Or, did you mean fictional universes? Anyways, judging by the first paragraph of your original post, you understand (or at least know about) the stigma around Alicorn OCs...how they're overpowered, underdeveloped, (self-important,) and they don't usually fit in with the canon world...so I'm wondering, why do you want to make Foxy and Alicorn anyways?  She can be a special character without being an Alicorn. And, again, I'd hardly call art a "serious role", as you put it (and this is coming from a fellow artist. As much as I like art and imagination, I don't think it's worthy of great power and immortality, never mind a royal title).

 

All in all, yes, I do think Alicorn OCs are a bad idea. :/ ESPECIALLY if your goal is to have her "as canon as possible"--because in canon, Alicorns are very rare, and very important. They're gods and they're royalty. Does your ponysona really deserve that? (I'm not trying to be mean, I just want you to think about these questions. You were aiming for canon, after all.) To make your OC seem like they'd fit into the canon world, it's better to make them less PHYSICALLY special and more PERSONALLY special.  :har:

 

But to answer your orginal question...

 

 and i can see what they mean, simply, you'd have to earn the right to be an alicorn by certain means or other.  you just arn't born to be one- are you? can alicorns created by fans be cannon because of whatnot? or do they have rules they have to get to so not EVERYpony is one????

 

 

Canon:

• the works of a particular author or artist that are recognized as genuine.

  "the Shakespeare canon"

   

  Canon means "official", as in, it was made by the people who made mlp. No OC is canon, unless they appear in official merch or the show.

   

 

 

 

 

Alicornhood can be achieved in two ways--You can be born an Alicorn of Royal blood, like Celestia and Luna, or you can achieve Alicornhood though "being a good pony who shares the gifts that they have been given with others."  This is how Cadence and Twilight became Alicorns, and it was no easy feat.  This basically means you have to have earth-shattering powers, a heart of gold, and a big important life-changiing event before you ascend to alicorn/princesshood.

 

 

I hope that helped.

[Lightning Bliss 1,674]

Very sorry if i came off as rude, it wasn't my intention. I guess tone really changes in typing. u_u I suppose I've just seen a lot of posts like this already and I feel like this information should be widely known at this point. You do understand what I was saying about how Alicorns are supposed to be deities, right? Also, I think Lauren Fawst has the right to make her OC an Alicorn, considering she made up this entire universe. She's definietly an exception. Anyways...let me try this again.

 

They are not seen as 'deities', the ponies may mention "in the name of Celestia" and all that, but they are not worshiped like gods, they are followed as leaders, so lets not exaggerate their role in Equestria Society. Secondly, its been proven by Cadence and Twilight, that anypony can become an alicorn, it just depends on what they learn in contribute in the magic of "Harmony". Celestia and Luna keep the balance in harmony with their powers of the sun and moon. Cadence is the alicorn of Love, and Twilight is Friendship, this all is realitive to the magic of Equestria, which is "Harmony".

 

In regards to any brony here making an alicorn, they have every right to do so of their own free will, no one here has any right to tell anyone what they can and cannot do, long as they accept that not everyone will like what they do/create in their OC.

 

Like for me for instance, I hate all Mary Sue personalities and powers. I hate Godmodding, and I hate it when people randomly make an alicorn OC and don't put any efforts into their back story or design, they simply do it because they want to stand out and look bigger then they really are.

 

I put months of hardwork and effort into my ponysona/OC backstory and design, and went through several critics from others to get her to where she is today. I believe everyone can make a descent alicorn OC, whether they be cannon or not, long as they put in a valid effort when making them.

Edited December 10, 2014 by Lightning Bliss

[AmberDust 1,116]

They are not seen as 'deities', the ponies may mention "in the name of Celestia" and all that, but they are not worshiped like gods, they are followed as leaders, so lets not exaggerate their role in Equestria Society. Secondly, its been proven by Cadence and Twilight, that anypony can become an alicorn, it just depends on what they learn in contribute in the magic of "Harmony". Celestia and Luna keep the balance in harmony with their powers of the sun and moon. Cadence is the alicorn of Love, and Twilight is Friendship, this all is realitive to the magic of Equestria, which is "Harmony".

 

In regards to any brony here making an alicorn, they have every right to do so of their own free will, no one here has any right to tell anyone what they can and cannot do, long as they accept that not everyone will like what they do/create in their OC.

 

Like for me for instance, I hate all Mary Sue personalities and powers. I hate Godmodding, and I hate it when people randomly make an alicorn OC and don't put any efforts into their back story or design, they simply do it because they want to stand out and look bigger then they really are.

 

I put months of hardwork and effort into my ponysona/OC backstory and design, and went through several critics from others to get her to where she is today. I believe everyone can make a descent alicorn OC, whether they be cannon or not, long as they put in a valid effort when making them.

Yes, but, if you remember, she was aiming for something canonically accurate. And not just anypony can ascend to Alicornhood... They need to overcome great trials and be exemplary models to society, as well as bein able to play an important role like creating love, frinendship, etc.

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

Yes, but, if you remember, she was aiming for something canonically accurate. And not just anypony can ascend to Alicornhood... They need to overcome great trials and be exemplary models to society, as well as bein able to play an important role like creating love, frinendship, etc.

Wich all she has! in fact far harder trials then most! and she is an exemmplary model to society, They need her, and rely on her where she comes from, and she plays an important role, its just not given at this time. 

 

and by your standards, she over qualifies XD

[Ridley Wolf 291]

Like any other OC, it really depends on what you do with it.

 

If you're making an OC for Roleplays, then Alicorns are definitely unacceptable, as they are simply too OP.

 

If you're making an OC simply for the sake of having something pretty to draw, then have at it.

 

Of course, if you're looking for something that can fit into canon, then Alicorns are out.

There are four Alicorn princesses. Anything that breaks that canon rule breaks the world.

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

hehe with that logic... sure! however, it seems to me that they are setting it up to be more then... the four princesses....

[AmberDust 1,116]

Wich all she has! in fact far harder trials then most! and she is an exemmplary model to society, They need her, and rely on her where she comes from, and she plays an important role, its just not given at this time.

 

and by your standards, she over qualifies XD

Over qualifying isn't a good thing when it comes to OCs. I suggest you tell us all WHAT her abilities are so we can better judge her, instead of just taking your word for it. Just be careful and make sure she doesn't fly into "Mary Sue" territory. And remember what I said earlier!

hehe with that logic... sure! however, it seems to me that they are setting it up to be more then... the four princesses....

I don't agree, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[TheCraftyWhiteFox 371]

Heres what i have to say.

 

-In the book The Journal of the Two Sisters, the Alicorns are implied to be a race or species of pony that the three main pony races are aware of. During the beginning of the book, Star Swirl the Bearded recognizes the filly versions of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna as Alicorns, even though he had never met Celestia and Luna, thus implying that there were other Alicorns around during the "olden days" before the events of the series.

 

-The Rainbow Power Playful Ponies toys include adult Alicorns called Princess Sterling and Princess Gold Lily, packaged respectively with Fluttershy and with Pinkie Pie. In mid-May 2014, M.A. Larson wrote on Twitter "Come on, two days into the hiatus and they've already spoiled Princess Sterling AND Princess Gold Lily?!? There go my first two episodes."

 

- Celestia has a cousin named Léon, a four-year-old Alicorn.

 

- For the record, there are numerous 'minor' royals across the human world, I see no reason why that shouldn't be the case for Ponies too.
 

and thats just a itty bitty bit of shtuff that suggest more then the four alicorns

[AmberDust 1,116]

Heres what i have to say.

 

-In the book The Journal of the Two Sisters, the Alicorns are implied to be a race or species of pony that the three main pony races are aware of. During the beginning of the book, Star Swirl the Bearded recognizes the filly versions of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna as Alicorns, even though he had never met Celestia and Luna, thus implying that there were other Alicorns around during the "olden days" before the events of the series.

 

-The Rainbow Power Playful Ponies toys include adult Alicorns called Princess Sterling and Princess Gold Lily, packaged respectively with Fluttershy and with Pinkie Pie. In mid-May 2014, M.A. Larson wrote on Twitter "Come on, two days into the hiatus and they've already spoiled Princess Sterling AND Princess Gold Lily?!? There go my first two episodes."

 

- Celestia has a cousin named Léon, a four-year-old Alicorn.

 

- For the record, there are numerous 'minor' royals across the human world, I see no reason why that shouldn't be the case for Ponies too.

 

and thats just a itty bitty bit of shtuff that suggest more then the four alicorns

That's a very good point! Although I'm not certain that the comics (Leon) or the toys (those other royals) are very deeply rooted in canon though. I tend to go on the side of Fawst in saying that Celestia and Luna are the only remaining born Alicorns ( as opposed to ascended Alicorns) to still be alive.

 

It's also important to remember that the goal of mlp fim is spiralling further towards making money off of toys. I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I think they might be selling their souls (and authenticity) for money in the near future.

I guess I'm just saying that Alicorns were never intended to be common, and if they do become common, it's for the sake of making money, and goes against the show's old rules that they've already established regarding Alicorns.

I prefer to go along with the non-retconned info...that's just me though. I still want to point you towards the other points I've made.