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Does the EG world physically exist? What is its ontological nature?

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In other words, when you go through the mirror, do you actually transport to another, physical world, or is the world perhaps entirely within the mirror itself?  How do we define its existence (ontology)?

 

I've thought that maybe it's the later, but then how do you animate the inhabitants of the EG world?

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I subscribe to the multiverse theory. The "Ask Jappleack" tumblr touched on this some. 

 

EQG is in it's own universe, pony Equestria is in it's own universe and the mirror is a gateway between the two.

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Okay, so you're saying EQG is a physical universe distinct from Equestria.  Is EQG supposed to represent our real life universe or is it different from that?  I always thought that it was different from ours.

 

My thinking on the mirror was something akin to the Nexus in Star Trek Generations, but I don't think the idea fully works out.

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Is EQG supposed to represent our real life universe or is it different from that?  I always thought that it was different from ours.

 

I consider it to be representative of our universe. There are some features of the animation style (hair and skin colour notably) and elements of the plot that make it an unrealistic representation of our universe. But I consider it to be representative of our universe all the same.

 

Much like how the world depicted in, say, Forrest Gump is supposed to be our world, even though some details of the representation are inaccurate.

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I consider it to be representative of our universe. There are some features of the animation style (hair and skin colour notably) and elements of the plot that make it an unrealistic representation of our universe. But I consider it to be representative of our universe all the same.

 

Much like how the world depicted in, say, Forrest Gump is supposed to be our world, even though some details of the representation are inaccurate.

 

I just find it easier to say it's similar but not the exact same as our universe to make the unrealistic parts easier to deal with.  It's almost a semantic difference really.

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Well, in the comics the mirror is apparently even more impressive in that there exists one that pretty much operates like a Stargate and allows you to enter co-ordinates to other worlds. With that being said, the EQG universe is basically a parallel universe lying somewhere between the pony universe and our universe. It's our world in just about every way, except that its inhabitants are parallel doubles to Equestria and the mirror is nothing more than a gateway between the two worlds.  

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The EQG Universe is connected to The Pony universe by the mirror. I'm going to assume that the mirror is actually a wormhole but since it doesn't seem that Ponies know what wormholes are they, just call it a "Magic Mirror". It's kind of like if I dont know why this happens, than its because of some wizard type of belief.

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Okay, so you're saying EQG is a physical universe distinct from Equestria.  Is EQG supposed to represent our real life universe or is it different from that?  I always thought that it was different from ours.

 

My thinking on the mirror was something akin to the Nexus in Star Trek Generations, but I don't think the idea fully works out.

I don't think it's our universe, I think it's some sick and twisted hybrid of our universe and the MLP universe. Or something ;)

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Well, in the comics the mirror is apparently even more impressive in that there exists one that pretty much operates like a Stargate and allows you to enter co-ordinates to other worlds. With that being said, the EQG universe is basically a parallel universe lying somewhere between the pony universe and our universe. It's our world in just about every way, except that its inhabitants are parallel doubles to Equestria and the mirror is nothing more than a gateway between the two worlds.  

I want to read up on that.  Do you know which issues?

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I want to read up on that.  Do you know which issues?

 

That would be the Reflections arc, issues #17-20. Though the mirror itself is only really touched upon for most of #17 and the beginning of issue #18 and is subsequently destroyed by the end.

 

If you'd like the cliff notes instead (as the Reflection Arc is in my opinion the worst arc of the comics), then here:

 

 

The mirror is an upgraded version created by Starswirl after studying the EQG mirror sometime after Luna's banishment. With it, him and Celestia could travel to different parallel Equestrias, including one where ponies are replaced by dinosaurs like a Fluttershy T-Rex and one that appears to take place in the renaissance period of history. This allowed them to pilfer tech and culture from said worlds, similar to Bioshock: Infinite.

 

Eventually. Starswirl  discovered that using it would slowly degrade the barrier between neighboring universes, potentially leading to them merging/colliding with one another (which was the plot to Fringe). This was made worse through Celestia constantly traveling to one world in particular where moral alignments are reversed, ergo good characters like Celestia are evil and evil characters like Chrysalis and King Sombra are good (neutral alignments only seem to suffer personality changes, like with Derpy and one panel showing Vinyl being a classical musician and Octavia being the DJ) because not only did a good Luna exist in that world but Celestia had inadvertently developed romantic feelings for that world's leader, King Sombra.  

 

Catching Celestia disobeying his orders to not use the mirror, Starswirl "locked" the mirror in a fit of rage, forever damaging his relationship with the now distraught Celestia. It remained locked like this until some time before the start of the arc, when Luna catches Celestia disappearing through it one evening. Though this also caused Luna and Celestia to become "linked" with that world's Celestia and Luna (now both evil) so any damage sustained by either one would also be experienced by their duplicate. The merging of dimensions's did eventually come to pass as Starswirl feared, but through some horseapples Deus Ex Machina this was averted and the mirror in question was shattered beyond repair.

 

Also, the portal exits into that universe through a statue much like the EQG as well.

 

 

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If you'd like the cliff notes

 

I stopped reading your post after this because I just finished #16 a few days ago.  I want to read it first.

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I stopped reading your post after this because I just finished #16 a few days ago.  I want to read it first.

Yeah, sorry about that. I may have gotten a tad carried away...I've hidden everything behind a spoiler if you want to come back to it later. 

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Yeah, sorry about that. I may have gotten a tad carried away...I've hidden everything behind a spoiler if you want to come back to it later. 

 

Thanks, I will once I finish reading the comic.

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I think the world behind the mirror does really exist. The mirror would form a portal between Equestria and the other world. I do believe that the mirror is capable of connecting to other worlds besides the EQG world though.

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That would be the Reflections arc, issues #17-20. Though the mirror itself is only really touched upon for most of #17 and the beginning of issue #18 and is subsequently destroyed by the end. If you'd like the cliff notes instead (as the Reflection Arc is in my opinion the worst arc of the comics), then here:

 

Well, I finally finished reading the comic.  I just kept forgetting about it.  Your cliff notes pretty much sums it all up.  So basically, there are many, if not infinite other worlds that the mirror can connect to.  These worlds exist, but in other dimensions.  It's sorta like Sliders.  Thanks for telling me the issues the arc appears in, which by the way, I can see why people don't like it.  I didn't care for the shipping.

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I assume that the Equestria Girls universe is parallel to Equestria itself. Not really an alternate universe, but one that reflects the prime universe in many aspects.

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I assume that the Equestria Girls universe is parallel to Equestria itself. Not really an alternate universe, but one that reflects the prime universe in many aspects.

 

Okay, so then regular Equestria is EQ Prime.  Canterlot High Equestria is some different Equestria, one of many or even infinite possible alternates the mirror or one like it, could connect to, all of which are variations of the main EQ Prime.  They are reflections of EQ Prime.

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Okay, so then regular Equestria is EQ Prime.  Canterlot High Equestria is some different Equestria, one of many or even infinite possible alternates the mirror or one like it, could connect to, all of which are variations of the main EQ Prime.  They are reflections of EQ Prime.

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

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Yes, that is what I'm saying.

 

That could mean then that there's an Equestria where certain chance things didn't happen.  Then, there could be an Equestria where Rainbow Dash was never able to do her Sonic Rainboom at the best young flyers competition and therefore failed to save Rarity and the Wonderbolts, unless somehow that event is immutable.

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That could mean then that there's an Equestria where certain chance things didn't happen.  Then, there could be an Equestria where Rainbow Dash was never able to do her Sonic Rainboom at the best young flyers competition and therefore failed to save Rarity and the Wonderbolts, unless somehow that event is immutable.

Those are alternate universes not parallel universes.

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Those are alternate universes not parallel universes.

 

I don't think I properly know the difference then.  How is something an alternate universe and/or a parallel universe?

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I don't think I properly know the difference then.  How is something an alternate universe and/or a parallel universe?

It's subjective. To me a parallel universe reflects certain aspects of another universe (like how the EQ universe has human equivalents to the ponies. An alternate universe would be where something happened differently to change the events of history.

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It's subjective. To me a parallel universe reflects certain aspects of another universe (like how the EQ universe has human equivalents to the ponies. An alternate universe would be where something happened differently to change the events of history.

 

So why, then, does a parallel universe reflect certain aspects and not others?

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So why, then, does a parallel universe reflect certain aspects and not others?

It just does. There's no rhyme or reason to what it does.

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