Theory Sunset Shimmer's Age

[SolyWack 482]

So i rewatched Equestria Girls, because despite purist brony opinion, it was a good movie. In the movie princess celestia says sunset shimmer was a student before Twilight, BUT twilght became a student when she was very young. So i see two possibilities

 

The first, is that sunset shimmer is much older than twilight is, because sunset shimmer would have to be older than twilight to make decisions on the quality and speed of her training, causing her to turn on Celestia. But Sunset Shimmer is a highschool senior, because pinkie pie said she was princess "3 years in a row", and twilight is at the very least a freshman, but likely older than that

 

My second theory, is that sunset shimmer has a very high IQ and WAS able to make educated decisions on her training at only a few years older than twilight, or mabye even her exact age. But the problem with this is that Sunset's Plan was incredibly flawed, something that a very intelligent person probably wouldn't make

 

So what do you guys think? How old Is Sunset Shimmer?

Edited May 19, 2015 by AppleJack_Wack

[Suukorak 354]

I'm thinking that Celestia took Twilight as a student as a little filly while Sunset Shimmer was still her protégé. Only later, when Sunset left, did she turn her full attention to Twilight.

This leaves plenty of room, as it's unclear how long Twilight spent being teacher's pet for Celestia. Three years sounds like a reasonable gap.

Keep in mind as well that Sunset need not have been the "right" age to get into school. There were likely no records about her, so she could have just lied and gotten put in 9th grade when she should have been in 11th (if she can pull that off reasonably), just to have four years to prepare her plan.

[MLPFanatic34 3,234]

I think Sunset Shimmer is a little older than Twilight, but I could be wrong. I also wonder if Trixie was in the same school as Twilight and Sunset?

[Steve Piranha 28,769]

Well, there's not age consistency in EG. human Cheerilee is clearly older than the human 5, but pony Cheerilee is around the same age as shown in a couple of flashbacks 

[Kivil 1,721]

I am sure that Sunny is older than Twi because Sunny was Celestia's student before Twi, way before Twi knew that she had powers! Also, Sunny was banished to the EG world way before we knew about her so she had a lot of time to be queen at the dances!

[ManaMinori 4,143]

So i rewatched Equestria Girls, because despite purist brony opinion, it was a good movie. In the movie princess celestia says sunset shimmer was a student before Twilight, BUT twilght became a student when she was very young. So i see two possibilities

 

The first, is that sunset shimmer is much older than twilight is, because sunset shimmer would have to be older than twilight to make decisions on the quality and speed of her training, causing her to turn on Celestia. But Sunset Shimmer is a highschool senior, because pinkie pie said she was princess "3 years in a row", and twilight is at the very least a freshman, but likely older than that

 

My second theory, is that sunset shimmer has a very high IQ and WAS able to make educated decisions on her training at only a few years older than twilight, or mabye even her exact age. But the problem with this is that Sunset's Plan was incredibly flawed, something that a very intelligent person probably wouldn't make

 

So what do you guys think? How old Is Sunset Shimmer?

in "the fall of Sunset Shimmer", Sunny is shown to be older than Twilight.

 

 

Also, your second theory isn't wrong, wither. In "Sunset Shimmer's Time to Shine", Sunset displays a considerable level of intelligence, being ahead of her friends and classmates in school and smart enough to develop various computer applications.

[Ickery 49]

I don't think the comics should be taken into account. The human versions of the mane six looked older than how they appeared in the year book in the movie; how they looked wasn't very accurate.

 

And the movie said that Sunset started her studies shortly before twilight, they could very well be the same age, but sunset older by a few months or so.

[Daring_Do 552]

I think Sunset Shimmer is a little older than Twilight, but I could be wrong. I also wonder if Trixie was in the same school as Twilight and Sunset?

Yeah, Faust did say that Trixie went to Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns: https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/329794603354030080

[MLPFanatic34 3,234]

Yeah, Faust did say that Trixie went to Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns: https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/329794603354030080

That's what I thought, but I wasn't entirely sure.

[Singe 2,109]

in "the fall of Sunset Shimmer", Sunny is shown to be older than Twilight.

 

 

Also, your second theory isn't wrong, wither. In "Sunset Shimmer's Time to Shine", Sunset displays a considerable level of intelligence, being ahead of her friends and classmates in school and smart enough to develop various computer applications.

 

If I go by the comic, then it could be that time in Equestria is faster compared to the world in Equestria Girls. That would give some explanation to Twilight closing the gap on age to Sunset.

[ManaMinori 4,143]

If I go by the comic, then it could be that time in Equestria is faster compared to the world in Equestria Girls. That would give some explanation to Twilight closing the gap on age to Sunset.

ummm...no, because that comic takes place in Equestria, not the human world

so Sunny- as shown- is still older

[Red Cedar 1,407]

Sunset Shimmer is definitely older than Twilight, in either universe. Of course, EQG does mess with the ages. If Shimmer was crowned princess three years running she would be a senior, whereas the rest of the mane 6 seem to be sophomores.

 

In Equestria, while she looks no older, there'd probably be approximately the same age difference between Sunset Shimmer and Twilight as between, say, Applejack and Apple Bloom.

Yeah, Faust did say that Trixie went to Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns: https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/329794603354030080

 

And then did what? Flunk out?

[Daring_Do 552]

Sunset Shimmer is definitely older than Twilight, in either universe. Of course, EQG does mess with the ages. If Shimmer was crowned princess three years running she would be a senior, whereas the rest of the mane 6 seem to be sophomores.

 

In Equestria, while she looks no older, there'd probably be approximately the same age difference between Sunset Shimmer and Twilight as between, say, Applejack and Apple Bloom.

 

And then did what? Flunk out?

Hey, her magic seemed pretty good in Boast Busters. Just not good enough to actually beat an Ursa.

[Van123 29]

On 20/5/2015 at 8:21 PM, Red Cedar said:

Sunset Shimmer is definitely older than Twilight, in either universe. Of course, EQG does mess with the ages. If Shimmer was crowned princess three years running she would be a senior, whereas the rest of the mane 6 seem to be sophomores.

 

In Equestria, while she looks no older, there'd probably be approximately the same age difference between Sunset Shimmer and Twilight as between, say, Applejack and Apple Bloom.

 

 

 

And then did what? Flunk out?

Friend, what the hell are you talking about? starlight and her friends ponies look like young adults but they are also teenagers in their human versions equestria girls, they look like seniors and young adults because of their size but they are teenagers like the monster high and totally spies some were 16-19 years old, 17- 21 and 15-22 years old. They look like young women but they are teenagers.
the TMNT also look like young adults but they are also teenagers also the princesses disney just because jasmine is 15, aurora is 16 ariel is 16 years old, belle is 17 years etc; they looks like young women but they are teenagers.

 

 

On 19/5/2015 at 6:37 PM, Steve Piranha said:

Well, there's not age consistency in EG. human Cheerilee is clearly older than the human 5, but pony Cheerilee is around the same age as shown in a couple of flashbacks 

the characters in EG looks like young adults for the size but they are teenagers. the mane 6 from canterlot high have 17-21 years old like monster high and totally spies. 

I have analyzed all their appearances and I realized that their size and everything that they act and what they are, are like young adults but they are teenagers. alike Teen Titans, TMNT, Spiderman, Monster High, Totally Spies and the the princesses disney and non disney.

In the real world I seen every actor young adults female and male who played as teenagers in the movies and the teenagers who played as children in the movies too like IT film.

The girls of equestria girls looks like young adults who played as teenagers in the movies that's why they resemble each other

The Cutie Mark Crusaders looks like the teenagers who played as children in the movies. Pan the granddaughter of Goku from dragonball z her size and appearance is very similar to Cutie Mark Crusaders

Edited March 4, 2018 by Van123

[Steve Piranha 28,769]

46 minutes ago, Van123 said:

 

 

the characters in EG looks like young adults for the size but they are teenagers. the mane 6 from canterlot high have 17-21 years old like monster high and totally spies. 

I have analyzed all their appearances and I realized that their size and everything that they act and what they are, are like young adults but they are teenagers. alike Teen Titans, TMNT, Spiderman, Monster High, Totally Spies and the the princesses disney and non disney.

In the real world I seen every actor young adults female and male who played as teenagers in the movies and the teenagers who played as children in the movies too like IT film.

The girls of equestria girls looks like young adults who played as teenagers in the movies that's why they resemble each other

The Cutie Mark Crusaders looks like the teenagers who played as children in the movies. Pan the granddaughter of Goku from dragonball z her size and appearance is very similar to Cutie Mark Crusaders

I wouldn't put the theatrical example, but that's actually quite accurate. Most of the time, teens are seen in media as still growing as seen by their deliberate shorter stature compared to the adults, but in reality, most older teens reach their adult height by that stage, only growing a cm or two when actually adults. You can see the trope "Teens are Short" in TV tropes for more information. In short, most of the Humane7 probably won't grow anymore than that, even as adults

[Van123 29]

2 hours ago, Steve Piranha said:

I wouldn't put the theatrical example, but that's actually quite accurate. Most of the time, teens are seen in media as still growing as seen by their deliberate shorter stature compared to the adults, but in reality, most older teens reach their adult height by that stage, only growing a cm or two when actually adults. You can see the trope "Teens are Short" in TV tropes for more information. In short, most of the Humane7 probably won't grow anymore than that, even as adults

The TV tropes is nothing important, I know that most of the Humane7 probably they resemble and they are similar as young adults for the size but they are teenagers like I said above  ''young adults actors who played as teenagers in the movies'' they have 17-21 yeard old like Totally Spies have 16-22 years. The teens are short but anothers in the school are biggers, that's why the boy is big than the girl or the same size but in the real adult is very bigger like jason statham, dwayne johnson, silvaster stallone etc;  The princess belle have 17 and her husband have 21 years. I always analyzed their appearances of each character as a doctor does by analyzing the sick. 

just because the other fans never notice that because they don't care, I'm the only one that I notice and analyze, but you and the others do not think the same because they never see the monster high nor totally spies shows because they have forgotten them not are interested

Edited March 4, 2018 by Van123

['Orse Radish 6]

4 hours ago, Van123 said:

I always analyzed their appearances of each character as a doctor does by analyzing the sick. 

I might have misunderstood, but, if you want to get to the bottom of an ambiguous plot point, I think you have to look at what the characters say - i.e., review the known facts and try to extrapolate from there.

Only events shown on screen and factual statements made by the characters are canon, IMHO.

Edited March 5, 2018 by 'Orse Radish

[Ganondorf8 11,118]

Since Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight according to the first Equestria Girls movie, I assume that she is older than Twilight by a couple of years. But, this is merely a guess on my part given the lack of information from the writers.

[Thrond 3,257]

Twilight didn't appear to know about Sunset beforehand, and I find that unlikely if they were both under Celestia's tutelage at the same time. Therefore, I tend to believe that Sunset might have been a fair bit older than Twilight, but quirky differences in how time moves between the worlds led to Twilight catching up. Although I'm still a little confused by Twilight becoming a high schooler when crossing the portal; I feel she'd be in her low 20s in the show. I get confused thinking about age in Equestria Girls. 

[Van123 29]

3 hours ago, 'Orse Radish said:

I might have misunderstood, but, if you want to get to the bottom of an ambiguous plot point, I think you have to look at what the characters say - i.e., review the known facts and try to extrapolate from there.

Only events shown on screen and factual statements made by the characters are canon, IMHO.

the  events shown on screen is not  important. 

2 hours ago, Ganondorf8 said:

Since Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight according to the first Equestria Girls movie, I assume that she is older than Twilight by a couple of years. But, this is merely a guess on my part given the lack of information from the writers.

the information from the writers is nothing important. That is not necessary, just like the teen titans. they have 17-21 years 

[M00nr1s3 0]

She must be a junior because in the friendship games she and human Twilight Sparkle were doing trigonometry which is a junior level math class. Also it's possible that canterlot high school, while being a high school is more along the lines of a 6th through 12th grade level high schools. Ill admit I don't know how much age difference there is between AJ and applebloom in equestria girls are but if they are three or more year younger than its possible that the CMC are in eighth grade. Thus putting Sunset at 17 to 16 years old. 

Added on to this evidence in Driving Miss Shimmer Sunset fails a driving test. This test was proctored by Cranky Doodle a teacher at school. Now I'm not sure how all schools work but Drivers ed is usually only given to juniors. 

So in conclusion Sunset's age will range from 16 to 17.

Here's the video for more information, 

 

[M00nr1s3 0]

She must be a junior because in the friendship games she and human Twilight Sparkle were doing trigonometry which is a junior level math class. Also it's possible that canterlot high school, while being a high school is more along the lines of a 6th through 12th grade level high schools. Ill admit I don't know how much age difference there is between AJ and applebloom in equestria girls are but if they are three or more year younger than its possible that the CMC are in eighth grade. Thus putting Sunset at 17 to 16 years old. 

Added on to this evidence in Driving Miss Shimmer Sunset fails a driving test. This test was proctored by Cranky Doodle a teacher at school. Now I'm not sure how all schools work but Drivers ed is usually only given to juniors. 

So in conclusion Sunset's age will range from 16 to 17.

Here's the video for more information, 

 

[katzoo12 41]

I personally don't know her AGE, but I imagine her to be 16 in human years. There's actually this one fanfic I recently read on FiMfic called "The Search" and it involves Sunset searching for her human counterpart...turns out she died at 6 when she was in a car accident with her parents. Applejack's parents died in that crash too. The "16" guess actually makes sense in my opinion if you think about it. Here's the link if you wanna read it: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/381052/the-search 

[DonMaguz 1,023]

She's clearly over 30.

[katzoo12 41]

Just now, DonMaguz said:

She's clearly over 30.

Well...in pony years. I mean, think about it. Twilight's probably a little younger than that but she still lives alone. However, she's thrust into the body of a human teenager when she crosses over. So in theory, the portal decreases the physical age when crossing to the human world but keeps the psychological age.