movies/tv Worst entries in franchises you like?

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

So most of us have a franchise in both Movies and Television that we really like. We have the entry that introduced us, the entry that's our favorite, the entry that's not quite as good as our favorite but we still enjoy it anyway...then we have the entry that is just outright bad, which we will be discussing in this thread.

 

Before I start off, feel free to discuss any entries listed, either by myself or anyone else who posts in this thread. If I simply made this an opinion dump that would just be boring. Discussion is encouraged in this thread, a little debate is good just avoid any mudslinging that just ruins it for everyone.

 

So to start this thread off:

 

My Little Pony - G3/G3.5: I'll start with obvious franchise that helped spawn this site. Before this we had G1 which despite the 80's cheese was actually pretty good...and really dark when you really thought about it (but that's a discussion for another time, you had the forgettable G1.5...and then we got this. A series of mini-movies that were badly drawn (ESPECIALLY G3.5! OH GOD, IT WAS AN EYESORE), animated and boring as all hell. Some of them were practically story-less. If you were to ask me what the plot to Dancing in the Clouds was, I couldn't tell you because honestly there was no plot, just a series of random events. Nothing of importance happened. It was a stereotypical girl-show, it insulted the intelligence of its primary demographic and it's probably the reason why the franchise has a negative reputation among those who haven't seen FiM or G1. Seriously, thank Faust for putting the franchise back on track!

 

I'll add more entries later

[Megas 27,062]

Do games also count? Because fuuuuuuuuck Megaman X7

 

After Megaman Legends, a 3D Megaman game was perfectly welcome and I thought "Hey 3D Megaman has been great before, maybe it can work" and boy was I wrong. Whoever thought it was a good idea to make MEGAMAN X, the main character, a fucking unlockable in a MEGAMAN X game needs to be smacked upside the head. The gameplay is sloppy, slow, and buggy/glitchy which is absolutely inexcusable for a game series known for it's tight, polished, controls and fast gameplay. This coupled by the horrific targeting system and horrific implementation of the 3D plane doesn't help things anymore. Ride sections are awful. And the story is one of the worst in the entire franchise. X got completely neutered, Zero doesn't care and Axl was one of the most annoying and "why do I have to care about this kid", villain sucked, and the game had the worst line up of bosses ever, ESPECIALLY this turd(warning boss will make your ears bleed). Not to mention, the voice acting is so bad, it makes X4 and Megaman 8 sound like Metal Gear Solid

Edited May 20, 2015 by Megas75

[Shanks 10,811]

MLP- G3. Bland Mary Sue characters and about as stereotypical as you can get.

 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles- The Next Mutation. It took nearly everything good about the turtles from the 80's/90's cartoon and original comics and took a collective shit on it. This short lived live action show was nothing more than a cheap, pooly conceived cash in that both fans as well as the original creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles would much rather have never existed in the first place.

 

Star Wars- Holiday Special. It is a bit obscure with only hard core fans even hearing about it but to those that haven't seen, do yourself a favor and keep it that way. If you want to see what Star Wars would actually look like if Disney really messed it up as badly as some people fear than it would be a very good indication. It is the perfect example of another shameless cash in as well as something trying way to hard to appeal to little kids.

 

Ren and Stimpy- Adult Party. This was a short lived revival of the Ren and Stimpy cartoon series that aired on Spike TV with much fewer restrictions on content. I liked the fact that they aired uncut episodes that were originally censored and ones that didn't originally air at all. Those ones are awesome, the ones I am talking about are the ones made for the revival which try way too hard at humor but fail at it miserably. The most cringe worthy episode is the one where Ren and Stimpy actually had sex, granted it didn't show anything but the fact that it was ambiguous for all these years was a lot funnier and actually made much more sense to both of their characters. I have no problem with gays but this seemed out of character and out of place for both of them.

Edited May 20, 2015 by Darth Bane

[Mrain901 216]

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates To Infinity.

 

Just... urrggh. Explorers of Sky is my 3rd favorite game of ALL TIME. IT had unique yet replayable gameplay, deep characters, an epic plot, and heartwrenchingly emotional moments. Gates to Infinity got rid of all of that. The characters and story are bland, and the gameplay was downgraded by A)For SOME REASON having LESS Pokemon than the previous installment. Um... what? Sky had almost ALL the Pokemon when it was released, over 400. Gates has 144. The dungeons were boring and easy, and the entire game was super short and felt extremely rushed. There were a TON of dungeons, which seems like a good thing, but it seems they traded quality for quantity, which is usually a terrible idea. They got rid of hunger except for the end, when hunger was A CRUCIAL ASPECT of the gameplay in previous installments! They just dumbed down everything and made it mind-numbingly simple, there's none of the strategy or skill it took to play the previous games. Though, the story is the main problem. See, the past 2 games in the series had AMAZING story. Like, WOW. I almost cried at the end of Sky. Gates just decided, "Nah, screw the story, lets just give a half-assed story with a bunch of spineless side characters that do nothing to help the game. That's a good idea." (Spoiler: It wasn't a good idea.)

[CC_Maud_Pie 6,431]

Outside of MLP:

 

Arthur: 9 Story Entertainment taking over the show. The animation wasn't like how it used to be and the episode storylines were terrible. Also, the movie Arthur's Missing Pal was bad because I didn't like how the characters looked like in CGI.

 

Pixar Films: Cars 2 and Brave. I don't hate them but I don't think they're good compared to the other Pixar films.

 

Disney Films: Most direct-to-video/DVD sequels.

 

FIFA: Out of the ones I've played, my least favorite is FIFA 2009. I don't really have a reason why but I just don't like it.

[TheJLeeTeam 914]

Most Disney sequels, and Hotel Mario. I can't think of anything else.

[Jackie Snack 1,498]

Does Equestria Girls count? It wasn't my entry, it just sucks.

 

Buuuut... I'd have to say when Gunbound was bought out by another company. The game was ruined for many reasons.

[Sazama Ichida 2,352]

Only things that come to mind is G3 MLP and the new Star Wars related stuff.

Edited May 20, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[LittleMac 3,084]

Amazing Spiderman 2

 

Iron Man 2

 

Daredevil 1...

[A Black Circle 1,585]

Skyrim. The hate I'll get... and yes, I've played all 5 main series games. In fact, I was just making a new character in Arena 5 minutes ago.

 

Jedi Outcast - A lot of people treat this game like the best in the series. It's just clunky and awkward to play.

 

A Bug's Life - It didn't feel like anything special. Generally, P.ixar movies have some sort of special spark to them. This movie was just plain average.

 

More later.

[Steve Piranha 28,769]

-Nintendo consoles: WII, a huge disappointment in general. Yes, it saved Nintendo economically, but I was far from satisfied with it. bad third party games and underwhelming first party were at the order

-Pixar movies: Brave and Wall-E are my least favorites Pixar movies

-Castlevania: Dracula's Curse is my least favorite CV for being far too cheap

-Metal Gear series: the original MG, it shows its age, but it's still enjoyable

Edited May 21, 2015 by Steve Piranha

[A Black Circle 1,585]

-Nintendo consoles: WII, a huge disappointment in general. Yes, it saved Nintendo economically, but I was far from satisfied with it. bad third party games and underwhelming first party were at the order

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[EmeraldRarity 102]

Most disney follow-up films

 

the Pokemon anime after Dawn Left (4th gen/Sinnoh)

 

 

[Venomous 18,813]

Does Equestria Girls count?

I hated that movie.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 40,272]

For movies and shows, I have to say Equestria Girls. I like the movies, I loved the second one, but I still think they have no reason to exist.

 

For games...Metal Gear Solid 2 and Dynasty Warriors 6.

 

MGS 2 Was amazing in almost every aspect, but the story was...abysmal. To me it made zero sense at the time and even now I find it hard to embrace it. The ending felt like everything that we did served little purpose to a narrative. Plus Raiden was kinda...meh. He's better now, but back then he just seemed off.

 

Dynasty Warriors 6, It was just terrible. Bad graphics, buggy, terrible gameplay, frustrating mechanics, it was one to the worst in the entire series.

[StoneCold 144]

The Total Drama series. Yeah, the comedy can be bland or predictable, but that theme song just forces me to wear my nostalgia shades.

[TheJLeeTeam 914]

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates To Infinity.

 

Just... urrggh. Explorers of Sky is my 3rd favorite game of ALL TIME. IT had unique yet replayable gameplay, deep characters, an epic plot, and heartwrenchingly emotional moments. Gates to Infinity got rid of all of that. The characters and story are bland, and the gameplay was downgraded by A)For SOME REASON having LESS Pokemon than the previous installment. Um... what? Sky had almost ALL the Pokemon when it was released, over 400. Gates has 144. The dungeons were boring and easy, and the entire game was super short and felt extremely rushed. There were a TON of dungeons, which seems like a good thing, but it seems they traded quality for quantity, which is usually a terrible idea. They got rid of hunger except for the end, when hunger was A CRUCIAL ASPECT of the gameplay in previous installments! They just dumbed down everything and made it mind-numbingly simple, there's none of the strategy or skill it took to play the previous games. Though, the story is the main problem. See, the past 2 games in the series had AMAZING story. Like, WOW. I almost cried at the end of Sky. Gates just decided, "Nah, screw the story, lets just give a half-assed story with a bunch of spineless side characters that do nothing to help the game. That's a good idea." (Spoiler: It wasn't a good idea.)

I actually enjoyed Gates to Infinity and thought it was still decent but yeah it's not as good as previous games and it's my least favorite Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

[Love//Hack 819]

MLP G3.5 - Believe it or not, even as a little girl I hated it. I grew up with the older generations really but the only one I hated was G3.5. I'd go into detail why but you seem to already cover that and say everything I hated about it for me. XD

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutantion - I honestly never liked it. When I disliked MLP G3.5, I also disliked Next Mutantion. I don't know why, but I just didn't like it at all. It felt bland to me, the live-action was just bland in my opinion with the turtles' looks and the voice-acting kinda off to me. It didn't have much of connection the older genes. No mention of important characters, for example. Such as Casey and April and how the turtles came be. Then we have my biggest issue; Venus De Milo the female turtle. She was quite like a Mary Sue in a few ways in my opinion. Even as a little girl she annoyed me. The creators even seemed to hate her. Also, she kinda caused the Tcest. I don't mind if people want to ship the turtles together but it's all because Leo in the Next Mutantion said that they weren't actually related so Venus wasn't actually their sister so they weren't incest or anything and Tcest fangirls use it as a excuse. Especially for modern TMNT on Nick. I like to think of all the TMNT generations as different and not the same personally. And all the turtles were goofballs around Venus and acted like this because of her. And a lot of the villians and storylines were pretty weak. Like the gangster snowman.

Edited May 21, 2015 by GoldKingdomFright

[Dark Qiviut 22,173]

Does Equestria Girls count? It wasn't my entry, it just sucks.

 

Does Equestria Girls count?

I hated that movie.

 

As bad as EQG is, G3 and G3.5 are objectively worse. At least some things in the EQG spinoff are good. Minus G3's animation, G3 and G3.5 are completely irredeemable, including the toys.

 

For the other franchises I like:

1. Digimon: Adventure 02. I haven't seen any new Digimon season since Savers, but of the five, Adventure 02 has the most problems. Anime animation tends to be cheap, but they're very inconsistent. Even worse are the stories: They're full of massive plot holes, exposition, major logic lapses, and blatant toy bait. The ending is the icing on the cake thanks to its anticlimactic ending and stupid.
2. Card Captor Sakura: The Helvana dub. While it's understandable to leave out the blatant May/December ship (Rika and her teacher, Terada), others make no sense. The homosexual undertones were removed. Face-faults (a staple in anime slapstick) were edited out. Rather than respect the culture, the place (Tomoeda in the originals to Readington in the dub), names, and cultures were immediately Americanized In the U.S., the order was completely changed to make Syaoran the focus. But the voice acting is worse; all rely on either archetypes or American stereotypes (i.e., the Valley Girl accent).
3. Sonic: Sonic '06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Which one you find worse is relative, but both of them really hurt the franchise.

    

   Sonic Boom's impressions were terrible thanks to really tedious gameplay, PS2-quality graphics, and very generic music (for a series known for its high-quality music, that's a BIG minus). When it got released, it looks worse. The gameplay is extremely glitchy. The story is stupid. Shadow exists merely to pander to the crowd. Even the credits were lazily designed.

    

   But Sonic Boom didn't have the expectations Sonic '06 had. The gameplay looked really good, and the promtions were positive. A lot of great ideas could've been into the game. Instead, the gameplay is terrible. The in-game graphics are low-quality. The voice acting and story are some of the worst in the entire series. Elise is a flat bore.

    

   Ask me which is worse, I go with '06. '06 had the high expectations, and nobody saw its terrible quality coming. For Boom, the expectations died the second those previews were released.

Edited May 21, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

Star Trek Into Darkness - Many people have their pick for worst entry, Star Trek V, Voyager, Enterprise, Star Trek Insurrection. For me my pick is Into Darkness. Star Trek (2009) was pretty harmless but Into Darkness was the movie that took Star Trek lore and shoved it down the toilet! As a Star Trek fan I couldn't help but notice the many flaws and holes in this movie. We had the entirety of the first scene which had problems could have been avoided (such as the violation of the Prime directive) had Kirk had the ship orbit planet (you know like they always do in Trek) instead of parking it under the f**king ocean. There was a shoddy chain of command in which people being promoted and demoted constantly regardless of whether they were qualified for the job or not! Handheld warp devices that rendered Star Ships obsolete! Characters in roles they shouldn't even be in (Carol Marcus as a science officer when in the original universe she hated Starfleet)! Oh and KHAN, oh how badly they butchered Khan! In he's a british white guy instead of an East Indian....that for some reason looked liked a Hispanic man, he was found not far from earth where in the Prime universe he was found in DEEP SPACE and for some reason he gained Superman like strength and super-fighting skills AND for some reason his blood cures death and terminal disease! NOTHING AT ALL LIKE THE ORIGINAL KHAN!!! I mean look...guys, there's only so many times that you can say "Nero did it". I mean what,thanks to Nero, Khan has blood that can cure death? REALLY!?!?!?

 

I can go into more detail with the movies other problems but this so far sets a good example. The only worthwhile thing was to see Prime Spock say "We defeated Khan but at a great cost." (...I died!)

 

Also guys, there's no hope for Star Trek 3! Simon Pegg said he was hired to make Star Trek less Star Trek-y. STAR TREK'S UPCOMING 50TH ANNIVERSARY EVERYONE! THIS MOVIE! ...Great...Doctor Who got a great 50th Anniversary but Star Trek doesn't?!

[Steve Piranha 28,769]

-TMNT: I loved the '03 cartoon, but since Fast Forward, meh

-Time Crisis: the first one, it shows it's age and cheap difficulty compared to it's later entries

-Metroid: The original, it didn't aged well

-Megaman: X6, blatant fake difficulty is a turn off for me (Damn you kaleidoskopic light..... thing  )

-MLP FIM: I did enjoyned EG, but it's definitely my least favorite in-house FiM production

-Pony comics: Friends Forever 1, IT WAS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAd 

[Envy 5,998]

Hm... All I can think of is video games. There aren't many franchises I enjoy otherwise that have various iterations. At least not ones I can think of, and I can't give any opinion on MLP because I still haven't seen G3.5 and nothing else MLP has been bad.

 

So...

 

Animal Crossing: City Folk - Yikes. Oftentimes hated for being "more of the same", I can't state enough how much that is missing the main point of what was wrong with this game... It wasn't the lack of change, it was the fact that they made it so lazily that the game was messed up from bottom (past features) to top (new features). Yes, it was very similar to Wild World, but it's much more to the point to say it was a "watered-down port of WW", than just "more of the same" lol.

 

The Sims: The Sims 4 - This game can be faulted for being "more of the same". Normally I hate that complaint, but it fits The Sims 4 to a t, and it's a big problem when it comes to The Sims. A The Sims game is an investment, because EA'll catch you in their web and you'll end up spending all kinds of money in the many different ways they provide "DLC". The fact that The Sims 4 base-game does so little to differentiate itself from The Sims 3, even The Sims 2, is an absolute deal-breaker for a long-time The Sims player as myself. Plus, it's actually worse than The Sims 3.

 

Super Smash Bros.: Brawl - I'll never stop hating on this poor game. A lot of its issues can be pinned on SSB4, but I feel like SSB4 outweighs the bad with good. Brawl had nothing to outweigh its poor everything... Poor character roster, poor single-player mode (everything went into SSE, meaning the other modes were a shadow of their former selves), poor everything. lol

 

The Legend of Zelda (narrowing down to 3D Console series): Skyward Sword. Skyward Sword did a lot right. It had fun characters, the motion control worked (for the most part) and really finally made the feature feel justified for the console, and some of the environments were really interesting. However, a lot of the rest of it was lacking. Aside from the really neat time-warp level, I felt like the levels in the game were simply too boring aesthetically. On top of that, I remember revisiting of a dungeon, and even a non-story related boss appearing twice. Plus that tad-tones mission. A lot of things in this game felt tacked on, and were tedious. But what it did good, it did really good.

 

Paper Mario: Sticker Star. This is actually hands-down the worst iteration of any game I have ever played. I mean City Folk and The Sims 4 are pretty bad, but Sticker Star is... just plain sad. You can at least find some resemblance of an Animal Crossing game in City Folk, and a The Sims game in The Sims 4. But Sticker Star is a shell of Paper Mario. It has great visuals you'd expect of Paper Mario, but falls apart everywhere else. For example: The level-up system is gone. You fight enemies with stickers, basically only to get those stickers back. After fighting so many pointless enemy battles, I gave up.

 

It wasn't completely without charm, but I can't call it a good game. =/

[Megas 27,062]

 

 

1. Sonic: Sonic '06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Which one you find worse is relative, but both of them really hurt the franchise.

    

   Sonic Boom's impressions were terrible thanks to really tedious gameplay, PS2-quality graphics, and very generic music (for a series known for its high-quality music, that's a BIG minus). When it got released, it looks worse. The gameplay is extremely glitchy. The story is stupid. Shadow exists merely to pander to the crowd. Even the credits were lazily designed.

I remember when they actually patched Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, only for it to actually look worse than the original game. It's quite outstanding actually

 

[baba_booey 4,299]

MLP:FiM:

-G3/G3.5: Mary Sue characters and pandering to girls, everyone!

-Newborn Cuties: Same thing as G3(.5), except now with poor animation!

 

Thomas and Friends:

-Season 13-16: Character stupidity, lack of realism, new characters that are executed poorly.. I could go on. The animation's good, but otherwise..

-Thomas and the Magic Railroad: A movie that pretty much craps all over what Thomas was even made for and about, as well as terrible acting, a broken plot, and it introduces one of the worst characters in TV history, Lady.

 

Super Mario:

-Almost all of the sports titles: I'll admit, I did find the Mario Kart series fun if it counts, and Mario Super Sluggers was a nice casual game and better than the Wii Sports Baseball in my opinion, but otherwise, there's way too many of these that I feel like it takes away from actual better-storied(?) games from being released.

 

Sonic the Hedgehog:

-Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric - Basically Sonic 06 V2

-Sonic 06: It has an overall broken plot, and it's glitchy af.

-Sonic Genesis (GBA): All I have to say is a shoddy port of a great game.

[Banul 3,831]

I love Star Trek: The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine (My personal favorite), and liked Voyager well enough. I was never really able to get into The Original Series, though. 

 

Paper Mario: Sticker Star. This is actually hands-down the worst iteration of any game I have ever played. I mean City Folk and The Sims 4 are pretty bad, but Sticker Star is... just plain sad. You can at least find some resemblance of an Animal Crossing game in City Folk, and a The Sims game in The Sims 4. But Sticker Star is a shell of Paper Mario. It has great visuals you'd expect of Paper Mario, but falls apart everywhere else. For example: The level-up system is gone. You fight enemies with stickers, basically only to get those stickers back. After fighting so many pointless enemy battles, I gave up.

 

It wasn't completely without charm, but I can't call it a good game. =/

 

Sticker Star was such a bummer. I stopped playing it within 2 hours.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Banul