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 I came to understand that Fluttershy views Discord as a friend, but I wonder how and in what way that Discord views Fluttershy. Does he also view her as a mere friend, or does he think of her as more than that, like a girlfriend?

 

 And what about Discord's jealousy level, wasn't it as high as what a boyfriend's or a suitor's would be if they were made to feel intense jealousy?

 

 

 When Discord was about to banish Treehugger to another dimension, was he feeling threatened by the unfamiliar mare? Was he afraid that he was going to lose Fluttershy to Treehugger?

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I am pretty sure that Discord does not want Fluttershy as a marefriend. Fluttershy seems to be his first true friend though. Has he even ever had a girlfriend and does he even need one? He is the spirit of chaos and he's an immortal god.

 

Also, Discord must have felt scared when he saw that Fluttershy had someone else to spend time with. He started to think that Fluttershy would forget him because of Tree Hugger and he felt threatened. Yeah, he pretty much acted like a boyfriend would but obviously there is nothing like that between the two.

 

He did overreact a lot though. Tried to send Tree Hugger to another dimension but he saw how siilly he was being thanks to Flutter.

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I have friend A and friend B. (This applies to multiple situations, so I'm not using specific names.) Friend A is a good friend who I've known for years. Friend B is a good friend who I've known for years. But Friends A and B have known eachother since they were born. They're comfortable with me, but more comfortable with eachother, and if they absolutely had to choose, they would probably choose eachother over me.

It's fine for people to have other friends, and they have known eachother longer. They don't mistreat me because of it, and I don't do anything when they spend time with eachother. But deep down inside, I do feel a little jealous.

In Discord's case, he doesn't have many friends at all. So the one true friend that he does have is rather special to him. While I do think his jealousy got a bit out of control, I also think it makes sense that he would be rather jealous. Keep in mind that his personality is much different than mine, so just like it makes sense that he would get more jealous than I do, it also makes sense that he would be more expressive of his jealousy. (And even I got a bit annoyed at Fluttershy when she told Treehugger, "I've never known anypony as funny as you," when earlier she'd said the same to Discord.)

 

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Discord had a bit of a crush on Fluttershy. He might not realize it yet or think of it that way, but I suspect that he probably does on some level.

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I don't think the god of chaos can or would need those kinds of feelings. But he did show he is prone to being jealous. Fluttershy is his first friend ever. He has no idea what to do in a friendship really. So its natural he would overract like that.

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I didn't feel anything like that between Discord and Fluttershy. They are just friends. That episode was that generic "get jealous at friend seeing another friend then get another friend to party to make previous friend jealous." I guess that scenario usually goes with boyfriend girlfriend but the episode was more or less a parody of such as seen that the ponies were taking their little sisters as dates.

 

Too bad Blueblood wasn't there this time.

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Probably yes, from all of his actions, reactions and facial expressions around Fluttershy and Tree Hugger, when they were together, came out as being jealous. 

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Discord might be afraid of losing fluttershy. She's one of the few ponies able to see beyond the fear/loneliness that makes him so unstable.

Personally, I haven't seen any hint of love from Discord. So, what makes you believe so?

I'm just curious.
 

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If you noticed the other members of the mane six are still pretty antagonistic towards Discord, probably that betrayal with Tirek could have reinforced that hate. Fluttershy is the only one that forgave him for that.

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I'd say the jealousy was fueled by fear of losing his first (and I assume currently only) true friend and also his best friend. Fear and paranoia can fuel a bunch of very irrational actions. So the near crazy lover level of actions that he took being quite extreme makes a lot of sense in his case, him being the spirit of chaos and all. Paranoia + the embodiment of chaos = Whoa nelly.

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Well, I'm a Fluttercord shipper, so of course I saw things different than most people did LOL

I think Discord is fairly inexperienced when it comes to dealing with others. He's never had a friend, nor had to think of anyone but himself and that selfishness came though when he tried to intimidate Treehugger. Passive-aggression was just one those tactics given he couldn't outright attack Treehugger immediately like he might have done pre-Fluttershy. I think Discord does have romantic feelings for Fluttershy based upon his language of 'We like each other', and the comic hinting he had a crush on her too. I'm sure they'll never come out right with it, but I love if they dropped more moments for us Fluttercord shippers.
Overall, I felt like his reactions were very in tune with his inexperience and selfishness. But I totally sympathize with him, I've experienced similar situations to what Discord went through.

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Well, I'm a Fluttercord shipper, so of course I saw things different than most people did LOL

I think Discord is fairly inexperienced when it comes to dealing with others. He's never had a friend, nor had to think of anyone but himself and that selfishness came though when he tried to intimidate Treehugger. Passive-aggression was just one those tactics given he couldn't outright attack Treehugger immediately like he might have done pre-Fluttershy. I think Discord does have romantic feelings for Fluttershy based upon his language of 'We like each other', and the comic hinting he had a crush on her too. I'm sure they'll never come out right with it, but I love if they dropped more moments for us Fluttercord shippers.

Overall, I felt like his reactions were very in tune with his inexperience and selfishness. But I totally sympathize with him, I've experienced similar situations to what Discord went through.

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Y'know, first glance, I read that scene from the comics that way too (and back then I wasn't part of the fandom, so the idea was something new and interesting for me). But then I looked back at the scene and realized you've gotta ignore a couple things to interpret the scene that way. Discord's "Well, actually..." when Bast claims he doesn't have friends... and his reaction when Bast licks him. Seems to me that his blushing and stuff was because he still had a thing for Bast.

 

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 I came to understand that Fluttershy views Discord as a friend, but I wonder how and in what way that Discord views Fluttershy. Does he also view her as a mere friend, or does he think of her as more than that, like a girlfriend?

 

 And what about Discord's jealousy level, wasn't it as high as what a boyfriend's or a suitor's would be if they were made to feel intense jealousy?

 

 

 When Discord was about to banish Treehugger to another dimension, was he feeling threatened by the unfamiliar mare? Was he afraid that he was going to lose Fluttershy to Treehugger?

There is actually a lot of theories that he is indeed crushing on her.

 

Gryphon the brush off was focused on platonic jealousy (who is a better friend)

Owls well episode was focusing on jealousy in a family setting (who is a better son etc.)

This episode was more of a nudge toward romantic jealousy. Especially when he was hugging Smooze to make Shy jelaous of his intimacy with him. Or when he turn green after seeing her touching Tree Hugger. I think Meghan with Levinger were making a fun of boyfriends and husbands who act possessive and overreact when they having "a girls night out" without them.

 

Here is basic comparison to real life relationships

Well, I'm a Fluttercord shipper, so of course I saw things different than most people did LOL

I think Discord is fairly inexperienced when it comes to dealing with others. He's never had a friend, nor had to think of anyone but himself and that selfishness came though when he tried to intimidate Treehugger. Passive-aggression was just one those tactics given he couldn't outright attack Treehugger immediately like he might have done pre-Fluttershy. I think Discord does have romantic feelings for Fluttershy based upon his language of 'We like each other', and the comic hinting he had a crush on her too. I'm sure they'll never come out right with it, but I love if they dropped more moments for us Fluttercord shippers.

Overall, I felt like his reactions were very in tune with his inexperience and selfishness. But I totally sympathize with him, I've experienced similar situations to what Discord went through.

Oh yeah i forgot the comics

Also the fact on how he react in the S4 and S5 intro

It all kind of make sense. Unlike Spike, htough he doesn't understand how cryshing work and that he have one. Because is also new to him and he never expressed it before.

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Good lord, any time a Pony befriends a pony of the opposite gender the Ship wagon rolls in.

 

It's a children's show ya'll. They aren't gonna ship anypony with anypony. Even Cheerilee and Big Mac got shut down.

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Honsou, Cheerimac isn't dead. Does Filli Vanilli ring a bell? How about the cakes. They had a baby for Celestia's sake! How about Flash-light and Cadence Armor?

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If you noticed the other members of the mane six are still pretty antagonistic towards Discord, probably that betrayal with Tirek could have reinforced that hate. Fluttershy is the only one that forgave him for that.

Personally I got the feeling that all of the Mane 6 have forgiven Discord. Their attitude towards him is differkent now. Rainbow Dash didn't even look up from her cards when Discord appeared. Back in season 4 she would have been on alert immediately.

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If you noticed the other members of the mane six are still pretty antagonistic towards Discord, probably that betrayal with Tirek could have reinforced that hate. Fluttershy is the only one that forgave him for that.

Twilight absolutely forgave Discord. Remember when Tirek agreed to release Twilights friends in exchange for all the alicorn magic and he released the remane five (and Spike) ,but she wouldn't give it up until he released ALL her friends,meaning Discord who was still in the bubble. Tirek even said "you still call him a friend after he betrayed you?” and Twi said " release him!" If Twilight hadn't done that she would have never gotten the sixth key to unlock the rainbow power box. Then later when they all enter the castle for the first time, Twilight says it wasn't her alone that defeated Tirek and that she couldn't have done it without her friends (directed at the remane five) who were all sitting/standing around her. Then she uses her magic to levitate Discord into the circle and says "all my friends" and they group hug. AJ and Dash may still be cautiously suspicious of him, but I'm pretty sure he has been forgiven, and is considered a friend, just not on the same level of having Tuesday tea parties with him as Fluttershy.

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Strickly speaking on a plutonic level i felt that Discords rage was more because he knew of this importent event and he wanted to go with her, not as a date, but as a showcase. Think about it, what better place to show off that he was "reformed" then being in the company of the one that brought it forth at such an occasion, while at the same time snubbing his nose at the doubters and when that didnt happen... Well

 

(Just remember, this is is all speculational head canon)

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Discord was forced into and psychologically manipulated into needing to have Fluttershy as a friend.

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Comics spoilers:

 

 

Y'know, first glance, I read that scene from the comics that way too (and back then I wasn't part of the fandom, so the idea was something new and interesting for me). But then I looked back at the scene and realized you've gotta ignore a couple things to interpret the scene that way. Discord's "Well, actually..." when Bast claims he doesn't have friends... and his reaction when Bast licks him. Seems to me that his blushing and stuff was because he still had a thing for Bast.

 

I think people forget also that you can have a crush on your friend. He might have started out just liking Fluttershy as a friend, and started crushing on her, but I don't think he's really aware of his feelings. He's a pretty emotionally immature given he thought she'd be ok with him throwing Tree Hugger into the void, and afterwards they'd go back to normal. I don't ever think the writers will come right out with it and make them a canon and legit couple. I just don't see it happening. But I do wish for more Fluttercord moments, and I enjoy seeing them interact. Discord and Fluttershy are good for each other. Fluttershy has learned to be assertive, and even confronts Discord and tells him no, and makes him accountable for his actions, and Discord is having to learn to be more emotionally aware of others, and is slowly learning to be a better person, but is also supportive of Fluttershy and her sensitive nature. 

One thing I'd love to see also, is Discord interacting with the CMC like he does in the comic, and going on some adventures with them. Seeing him have to be responsible, being like a big brother to them, and mentoring them would be interesting. I really like the Discord/CMC comics about the best.

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Twilight absolutely forgave Discord. Remember when Tirek agreed to release Twilights friends in exchange for all the alicorn magic and he released the remane five (and Spike) ,but she wouldn't give it up until he released ALL her friends,meaning Discord who was still in the bubble. Tirek even said "you still call him a friend after he betrayed you?” and Twi said " release him!" If Twilight hadn't done that she would have never gotten the sixth key to unlock the rainbow power box. Then later when they all enter the castle for the first time, Twilight says it wasn't her alone that defeated Tirek and that she couldn't have done it without her friends (directed at the remane five) who were all sitting/standing around her. Then she uses her magic to levitate Discord into the circle and says "all my friends" and they group hug. AJ and Dash may still be cautiously suspicious of him, but I'm pretty sure he has been forgiven, and is considered a friend, just not on the same level of having Tuesday tea parties with him as Fluttershy.

Yeah a little bit but I felt Twilight said that only because she was a girl scout (like a boy scout but a girl). Always doing the right thing.

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Yeah a little bit but I felt Twilight said that only because she was a girl scout (like a boy scout but a girl). Always doing the right thing.

Nope, she wasn't just being a goody four hooves and dialing it in to "always be doing the right thing". It was genuine,legit forgiveness. If you remember, the other five got their objects that became the keys by owning their element and living up to it to help another pony become better, even though it wasn't easy for them. It wasn't easy for Twilight to call Discord a friend after his betrayal, but she did, and that is what made the trinket of gratitude she received from him become the final key. ( totally worth mentioning, it was Discords hilighting the enteries in the journal of friendship that led to the revelation that the trinkets were the keys. Twi even said "I hate to admit it, but I think Discord was being a good friend") And that is why Twilight Sparkle is the Princess of Friendship.

And just to keep this on topic. Twilight was pretty polite in taking Discord aside and telling him to keep Smooze in check, instead of just jumping all in his face and yelling at him. And like wise Discord did try to keep Smooze in check by putting him outside or in the closet. Granted, he only bought Smooze to make Fluttershy jealous, and when that didn't work he didn't have much use for it anyway. But that's just how the lord of chaos rolls, what are you gonna do. I do think that the Princess of Friendship could have stepped it up to both her friends by telling Fluttershy that her totally ignoring her friend Discord was a bitch move, and that just because you're there with another friend dose'nt mean you have to dis you other friends. And she could have explained to Discord that just because Fluttershy had other friends didn't mean she wasn't still his friend. ...But I guess Twi was busy with other gala related responsibilities, and just let them work it out on their own.

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I think they very purposely made TreeHugger a female to avoid implying that Discord had a crush on Fluttershy and was jealous in a romantic way.  :huh:

 

Although, making Treehugger male would have added a whole new layer.

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