I got into a sword fight with a friend.

[Boyevyye De 244]

You'd be dead inside of two seconds. Dual wielding is not impossible, but it's a VERY advanced technique and the two weapons are supposed to compliment, not hinder each other. e.g. a rapier and a dagger, a katana and a wakizashi. Or optimally be a matching set of the same weapon such as in many Chinese forms; such as dual dao or dual tiger hook swords. Hell the ladder are made with the express intent to be used in tandem.

 

lol look at that weeb trash.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Huh. Whooooa, those hooked swords are BA!

 

Oh they are. You can capture an enemy's weapon with the hook, the crescents can block or slash, the pointed ends can be used to stab with, or you can hook the swords together and slash at a guy much further away from you with said pointed end.

 

 

 

That would be so cool, fighting off a robber with a sword in the age of guns! XD

 

I think he means he used unarmed techniques. (I could be wrong.) The martial arts are not obsolete just because guns have been invented, you know? (In fact knights had to content with guns, but their armor was so good and contemporary firearms so poor that they were functionally bullet proof.)

 

lol look at that weeb trash.

 

What's "weeb?" And are you implying that the weapons of the martial art I practice are "trash?"

Edited June 19, 2015 by Steel Accord

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

I dressed up as Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin for Halloween once as well as Ichigo from Bleach. Got the replicas of their swords and everything. And the best part is the sword replicas are made of the exact same material as real swords. Real Japanese steel blades, real sharkskin hilts and everything.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

I dressed up as Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin for Halloween once as well as Ichigo from Bleach. Got the replicas of their swords and everything. And the best part is the sword replicas are made of the exact same material as real swords. Real Japanese steel blades, real sharkskin hilts and everything.

 

Did Kenshin's sword have the reverse edge as well? (Or at least looked like it did?)

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Did Kenshin's sword have the reverse edge as well? (Or at least looked like it did?)

Yep as a matter of fact it sure did.

[yayayayayala 1,668]

Oh they are. You can capture an enemy's weapon with the hook, the crescents can block or slash, the pointed ends can be used to stab with, or you can hook the swords together and slash at a guy much further away from you with said pointed end.

 

 

I think he means he used unarmed techniques. (I could be wrong.) The martial arts are not obsolete just because guns have been invented, you know?

AWESOME. :3

 

They aren't obsolete, but they aren't as widely practiced anymore. Which is sad. :/ But it makes it that much cooler to practice them, hehe :3 I would definitely jump more at the chance to learn swordplay than shooting! :3

It's also a heck of a lot harder than just learning how to pull a trigger at the right moment. :3

Edited June 19, 2015 by yayayayayala :3

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

They aren't obsolete, but they aren't as widely practiced anymore. Which is sad. :/ But it makes it that much cooler to practice them, hehe :3

 

Are you kidding? It's much better this way. Swords were no different than combat knives back in there heyday, they are weapons of war. Yes there is beauty and discipline to be had in their mastery, but they can never truly be divorced from their history. Just as much weapons of oppression as tools of chivalry. (In fact, they were more the former than the ladder for the most part.)

 

 

 

It's also a heck of a lot harder than just learning how to pull a trigger at the right moment. :3

 

Again, are you kidding? Yeah it takes only a move of the finger to "squeeze" a trigger, not pull it, but good luck hitting your target. Take it from a guy who's been to two gun ranges, it's harder than it looks. A skilled swordsman only appears more skilled than a marksman, they both have mastered a very difficult skill.

 

 

 

I would definitely jump more at the chance to learn swordplay than shooting! :3

 

You might want to learn the attached martial art to it. Swordsmanship is more than just the sword itself. 

[yayayayayala 1,668]

Are you kidding? It's much better this way. Swords were no different than combat knives back in there heyday, they are weapons of war. Yes there is beauty and discipline to be had in their mastery, but they can never truly be divorced from their history. Just as much weapons of oppression as tools of chivalry. (In fact, they were more the former than the ladder for the most part.)

 

Again, are you kidding? Yeah it takes only a move of the finger to "squeeze" a trigger, not pull it, but good luck hitting your target. Take it from a guy who's been to two gun ranges, it's harder than it looks. A skilled swordsman only appears more skilled than a marksman, they both have mastered a very difficult skill.

 

You might want to learn the attached martial art to it. Swordsmanship is more than just the sword itself.

#schooled

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[cider float 2,538]

LOL damn it thought it was real so I can say this:

 

Okay but since you're here telling us about it you won eh?

[Steel Accord 6,660]

#schooled

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Well I didn't mean to shut you down. We can have a conversation on this.

[Boyevyye De 244]

Well I didn't mean to shut you down. We can have a conversation on this.

 

#schooled

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I would say they are pretty much obsolete, or at least all but. Such as horse and rider are now replaced. Bladed weapons are still handy, but they simply cannot win in a fair fight against a gun.

[yayayayayala 1,668]

Well I didn't mean to shut you down. We can have a conversation on this.

XD I know, #schooled just seemed like a fitting response. X3

I would say they are pretty much obsolete, or at least all but. Such as horse and rider are now replaced. Bladed weapons are still handy, but they simply cannot win in a fair fight against a gun.

Ikr. OP guns have replaced swords in efficiency D: You can have one of those ultimate swords, but if someone shoots you and you can't deflect the bullet then *nope, sorry, you lose*.:/

[Steel Accord 6,660]

I would say they are pretty much obsolete, or at least all but. Such as horse and rider are now replaced. Bladed weapons are still handy, but they simply cannot win in a fair fight against a gun.

 

You've obviously never heard of the 21 feet rule. (With a sword it might even be something like a 15 feet rule.) In terms of war, yes the sword is obsolete, but as a self defense weapon it's not entirely without reason, most martial arts are quite practical actually.

[Boyevyye De 244]

 most martial arts are quite practical actually.

Yea but no.

 

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[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

Ikr. OP guns have replaced swords in efficiency D: You can have one of those ultimate swords, but if someone shoots you and you can't deflect the bullet then *nope, sorry, you lose*.:/

 

Well again, I wouldn't say that's entirely a bad thing. The important thing to remember hear is the context. War and single combat are as different as a slap fight and a wizard duel. The gulf of conditions as well as ideologies involved are vast.

Yea but no.

 

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You think a ninth degree black belt in karate should abandon his art and just buy a gun, is that it?

[Boyevyye De 244]

Well again, I wouldn't say that's entirely a bad thing. The important thing to remember hear is the context. War and single combat are as different as a slap fight and a wizard duel. The gulf of conditions as well as ideologies involved are vast.

 

 

You think a ninth degree black belt in karate should abandon his art and just buy a gun, is that it?

Да. 

... This site does not count 'Да.' as a word... Why?

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Да. 

... This site does not count 'Да.' as a word... Why?

 

No idea. What does that translate as though?

[Boyevyye De 244]

Yea.

 

So yea. Get rid of your blackbelt. 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Yea.

 

So yea. Get rid of your blackbelt. 

 

First of all, I'm not a black belt.

 

Second of all, you're a sword dancer. Your people still practice their ancient ways and carry them into the modern world. Everyday people fight off their attackers with their martial arts skills. They're not obsolete just because people carry guns. Even if someone does carry a gun, why not practice both unarmed and weapon combat as well as combat shooting?

 

The martial arts aren't just a practical self defense system, they're a philosophy, a way of life to many. I count myself among them.

[Boyevyye De 244]

First of all, I'm not a black belt.

 

Second of all, you're a sword dancer. Your people still practice their ancient ways and carry them into the modern world. Everyday people fight off their attackers with their martial arts skills. They're not obsolete just because people carry guns. Even if someone does carry a gun, why not practice both unarmed and weapon combat as well as combat shooting?

 

The martial arts aren't just a practical self defense system, they're a philosophy, a way of life to many. I count myself among them.

But I am not even a sword dancer. I can just dance with them, sortof. 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

But I am not even a sword dancer. I can just dance with them, sortof. 

 

Yet you boasted the greatness of the szabla. Championed the Cossack legacy of it and it's related arts. Are the sword and the martial arts truly so meaningless as to cast them aside just because they aren't used as weapons of war anymore?

[Boyevyye De 244]

Yet you boasted the greatness of the szabla. Championed the Cossack legacy of it and it's related arts. Are the sword and the martial arts truly so meaningless as to cast them aside just because they aren't used as weapons of war anymore?

As a cultural piece, they are important. For practicality, they are not.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

As a cultural piece, they are important. For practicality, they are not.

 

Maybe there's a difference between the Cossack martial arts and what I practice, but I refuse to believe that learning martial arts of any kind offers no practical protection, especially if your attacker is not armed with a gun. (Even if he is, gun defense is one of the first techniques I learned when I started with Karate way back when.)

 

Now don't mistake me, I'm not wishing to start a fight. God willing I'll never have to use the skills I'm training to hone, but under the unfortunate possibility that I do, I'll be sure to post it in my status that, yes, I effectively defended myself with martial arts.

 

That actually happened on this thread even!

 

I've practiced some fighting stances I've seen. Fought somebody once in a store wearing a Halloween costume and won.

Edited June 19, 2015 by Steel Accord

[Boyevyye De 244]

Maybe there's a difference between the Cossack martial arts and what I practice, but I refuse to believe that learning martial arts of any kind offers no practical protection, especially if your attacker is not armed with a gun. (Even if he is, gun defense is one of the first techniques I learned when I started with Karate way back when.)

 

Now don't mistake me, I'm not wishing to start a fight. God willing I'll never have to use the skills I'm training to hone, but under the unfortunate possibility that I do, I'll be sure to post it in my status that, yes, I effectively defended myself with martial arts.

 

That actually happened on this thread even!

No, go ahead. Fight me mang. 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

No, go ahead. Fight me mang. 

 

I don't want to fight, that's not why I do what I do. I do it for physical, mental, and spiritual self improvement.

 

I get the feeling though that you aren't taking this little debate as seriously as I am. Am I correct in that assumption?