spoiler "Smile HD", "Cupcakes" and "Derpy Gets Pranked" are now offically down.

[Alphys Hedge 671]

I'm sort of happy these got taken down. I've seen grimdark and violent stuff of MLP, and they never really bothered me. I have no idea why, but those three videos were extremely unsettling to me. Just...something about them made me really uncomfortable.

[Solid 1,327]

Can't say I'm too surprised, considering the graphical content.

[Celli 4,339]

Don't like grimdark/grotesque/bloody and his especially, and I am sort of glad his videos don't exist anymore.

And he only had the 3 anyway, it's not like he was making money off of them, either, like Jan. Just some random videos for fun. 

[Megas 27,767]

I'm sort of happy these got taken down. I've seen grimdark and violent stuff of MLP, and they never really bothered me. I have no idea why, but those three videos were extremely unsettling to me. Just...something about them made me really uncomfortable.

It might be because it's too show-accurate, at least that's part of why I don't like them. I actually talked to Nuke87654 about this, there's certain things in this fandom, including stuff I like including anthro art, that I don't like seeing in the show's style or close to it, it often comes off as uncanny, and I think it could be the same for plenty of people

Edited February 10, 2016 by Megas

[Alphys Hedge 671]

It might be because it's too show accurate, at least that's part of why I don't like it. I actually talked to Nuke87654 about this, there's certain things in this fandom, including stuff I like including anthro art, that I don't like seeing in the show's style or close to it, it often comes off as uncanny, and I think it could be the same for plenty of people

This is probably it. I've seen Shed.mov and it didn't unsettle me one bit, because the art style is just so weird. While watching the other ones, it half convinced my brain that it was in the show, just because it looks like it really did happen in the show.

[On-Locoweed 108]

Is this neighsaying knee-jerk reaction to everything pony grimdark a little much? I think it is.

 

 

Yeah, MisterDavie's videos are bizarre artistic interpretations of situations most of us would never dream of, but we should not just revel when something that we don't care for is being censored. 

 

 

Art is provocative sometimes, and artists have full license to provoke and twist material according to their vision, so long as they know where the line lies between source and imitation. 

 

 

I will bet that fan artists who do NSFW or graphically violent content are well aware that there is a distinction between the world they create with their art and what is actually the original, bounded world of MLP. One should not just jump ahead and say "good riddance, we're better off without the MisterDavies of the world", because you should know that art, fan art included, is supposed to be an artist's subjective interpretation of something. 

 

 

Sometimes, this interpretation comes to us as something we find distasteful, but as derivative works, such fan art should not be conflated with what one perceives as the actual world of MLP that one sees on TV. It's up to you too, Bronies, to figure out where to make these distinctions. Remixing or reimagining a popular cultural item is part of our culture and a tenet of contemporary art. 

 

 

So, if you see something you think is in bad taste concerning something you like, then of course you have every right to navigate away from that page/channel and enjoy only what you take out of MLP. But come on, what do you have to gain from supporting the sanitizing of creativity? What is life, the world, being human without having anything to challenge you, to push your buttons, to expand your perceptive abilities? What the hell is liking My Little Pony if weirdos like MisterDavie, or SergeantSprinkles, or Tiarawhy don't show up to remind you that everything about this pony stuff, the show included, is all in good fun at the end of the day? Such art is not a negation of any morality established by the show, but rather a provocation of your sensibilities. It truly is all about perception and how you can learn from experience. 

 

 

I'm particularly impressionable to graphic violence because I dwell on it too much, but I can still appreciate what controversial art means to a culture and how essential it is to have all styles and interpretations represented in moderation. However, it is still up to you, the viewer, to decide just how to fit provocative art (NSFW/grimdark pony) into the way you see your culture (the brony fandom), and if you can make a functioning synthesis between two opposing aesthetic designs (SFW vs. NSFW). I'm not saying you have to like any or all of it, but it's art and it still deserves respect and consideration.

 

[Justin_Case001 4,903]

Huh.  Well....I just visited ye olde tube and Smile HD works fine.  So...not sure what the dealio here is.  But thank Celestia I can still watch it!  I'm sure I'll take a lot of flack for this, but I happen to think Smile HD is not only one of the best things ever to come out of the fandom, but one of the best things ever to come out of humanity period.  I'm half joking, of course, but seriously, I think it's a riot.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Huh.  Well....I just visited ye olde tube and Smile HD works fine.  So...not sure what the dealio here is.  But thank Celestia I can still watch it!  I'm sure I'll take a lot of flack for this, but I happen to think Smile HD is not only one of the best things ever to come out of the fandom, but one of the best things ever to come out of humanity period.  I'm half joking, of course, but seriously, I think it's a riot.

It was down for awhile, it seems to be back up now though. 

[chirox the pony 1,336]

I am disgusted with the reaction to this. You guys screamed fair use when that Button Mash thing got taken down (which also featured a similar animation style) but when it's something you don't like you people are completely alright with that and come up with excuses as to why. I don't really care for cupcakes but the guy had full rights to make such a thing. But it is completely hypocritical to now all of a sudden love censorship because it's something you don't like. This entire topic has just worsened my view of the brony fanbase even more. And I already had a pretty low view. 

[hollow-shades 129]

In my opinion, I always tought that those "animations" were good but a bit too bloody for MLP. Whats the word? oh yeah, Good Art Bad Concept.

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

I had to hide a few posts that went off-topic a bit. While the conversation has been pretty well on-topic, I just wanted to remind everyone to keep it so. This discussion has been great and while we do try to remain lax on off-topic, please be careful that any OT statement doesn't continue into it's own conversation.

 

Thanks, now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

[Stormlight 1,371]

I could see why Hasbro has decided to take those videos down, though I didn't have a problem with it in the first place. Maybe it's gruesome and cringe-worthy for some people, but I'm not complaining.

[honk friend 1,978]

Don't like the guy? Fine

Don't like his content? Whatever

It's fucking ridiculous to write this off as justified, just say "good riddance" and be done with it.

Considering the shit this fandom tends to produce, and especially considering some of you guys' attitudes towards political correctness and sensitive stuff in general, the response in this thread comes off to me as hypocritical at best.

 

The content is back up at least, this is all still just fucking silly.

Edited February 10, 2016 by Kitty~

[chirox the pony 1,336]

Don't like the guy? Fine

Don't like his content? Whatever

It's fucking ridiculous to write this off as justified, just say "good riddance" and be done with it.

Considering the shit this fandom tends to produce, and especially considering some of you guys' attitudes towards political correctness and sensitive stuff in general, the response in this thread comes off to me as hypocritical at best.

 

The content is back up at least, this is all still just fucking silly.

Plus there's the fact that there's people who will complain about this shit being inappropriate but don't even touch on all the porn of MLP.

[honk friend 1,978]

Plus there's the fact that there's people who will complain about this shit being inappropriate but don't even touch on all the porn of MLP.

That's exactly what I'm fucking thinking

The same fucking people who whined and complained about various C&D claims by Hasbro (namely against Fighting is Magic) complaining about this shit

The second it applies to content THEY don't like it's "deserved" because it's "copyright infringement" even though it falls perfectly well under fair use

Meanwhile mediocre content of the same caliber is created on a daily basis

I really fucking hate this fandom sometimes

[碇 シンジン 27,433]

finally crap like that shouldnt be allowed in youtube I mean youtube doesnt allow +18 content and it still lets gorey stuff like that be there its pretty disturbing

That's exactly what I'm fucking thinking

The same fucking people who whined and complained about various C&D claims by Hasbro (namely against Fighting is Magic) complaining about this shit

The second it applies to content THEY don't like it's "deserved" because it's "copyright infringement" even though it falls perfectly well under fair use

Meanwhile mediocre content of the same caliber is created on a daily basis

I really fucking hate this fandom sometimes

 

Plus there's the fact that there's people who will complain about this shit being inappropriate but don't even touch on all the porn of MLP.

because you dont see porn of mlp being uploaded into youtube and it getting millions of views and popurlar in the fandom 

[honk friend 1,978]

because you dont see porn of mlp being uploaded into youtube and it getting millions of views and popurlar in the fandom 

 

You don't see porn of MLP being uploaded to youtube because it goes against the guidelines

This is original animation and it's fair use of copyrighted characters. Youtube is going through a huge shitstorm because fair use content is being claimed unfairly and the MLP community treats this as if it's deserved because it hurts THEM personally.

Basically, just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't belong on youtube.

[EquestriaGuy 1,074]

Without reading this thread, I'm gonna assume I'm not the first to say, "and nothing of value was lost". Sure he's a great animator, but I could never appreciate 3edgy5me violence.

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 2,998]

The content is back up at least, this is all still just fucking silly.

Only Smile HD at the moment. I hope all his remaining videos will return.

[SilverStarApple 849]

Meh, I only ever showed people those videos for humor sake. In reality, they are just videos made for the sloe purpose of shock value. Once the shock of it is loss, then the videos lose all of their values except for their animation.

 

Is this gonna be another Princess Molestia type of drama?

^This right here sums it up perfectly.

I know you're a staff member, and I'm somewhat unsure if I should make this post or not. Then again, this is a brony forum, not a Sonic forum, or worse, Smogon. Princess Molestia was a flirty tease that gained amusement from making others nervous and uncomfortable, and was implied to have plenty of 100%-consensual fun offscreen. She had an unfortunate name, but she never actually forced "Fusion" on anyone. Then again, the tumblrites that got her blog taken down don't typically read about what they hate or look into anything beyond the surface and whether that surface is scary, different, or badong, or "Problematic" or not.

[Gestum 2,493]

How does it break the law if its not intending to profit from said videos?

You would have to be against literally all fan animaitons, I don't know why people are bro hoofing your comment.

Well, for an example Derpy gets pranked had the hub logo in it. And Smile HD had a "remix" of the smile song.

 

Also I'm against literally all fan animations. Do you have a problem with that?

[Jest (Inactive) 875]

First of all I'm goin' to leave this here

 

 

But yeh people come to your senses a lil' bit here please and it would be a good idea most likely to stop ripping at each others throats. IF the videos had copyrighted material that they had no permission to use they should have been taken down on the grounds of Plagiarism, end of. Doesn't matter if you say '' Bu bu but there are a thousand other videos that are doing the same s s so it's not fair '' so what, they should be taken down too, the law is the law, steal content and you don't deserve to have recognition.  

 

Personally, I don' like this videos at all, but if they don't infringe copyright, or break laws then it's the case of, well it's not actually harming anyone, people might feel a little disturbed watching it, but there is a big X at the top of the screen they can click, no one forces them to watch it. Giving the fandom a bad name is completely relative to the individual persons opinion, some think Grimdark is good, some think its bad, some love clop, some hate it, just like what you like and the rest shouldn't really concern you. 

 

Let the Drama Llama go back to sleep  

Edited February 10, 2016 by Jestwinged

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

Locking this topic for general cleanup for the time being.