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Do you think Shining Armor is an Alicorn?


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Here is my theory that makes me think he is:

 

The first thing that makes me think this is flurry hearts birth, how was she an alicorn? I thought about it and thought, what if genetics had something to do with it? Remember how when you're born you are a combination of your mum and dad's personality and physical appearance? 

 

I think the alicorn gene was passed onto flurry heart from cadence and shining armor because what the mlp writers don't want you knowing is that shining armor is an alicorn. Because of the exact same personality trait (or physical?) the alicorn genetic was passed on down to flurry. Equestria didn't have an alicorn baby because there might have not been 2 alicorns in love with each other that they knew about.

 

Luna and Celestia are both girls, making it impossible for them to make a baby.

 

Another fact that support this theory a fact is the way flurry heart is seen, she has a pink body and her eyes are a bluish color, the same color of shining armors eyes. Does it remind you of anybody? Cadance? Shining Armor?  Are the MLP writers possibility hinting at genetics?

 

Alicorns have wings! I hear you cry... We have never seen Alicorn prince's in the show. What if they don't get wings? It might be a possibility 

 

And remember shining armors ability to protect Canterlot in the season 2 finale? A massive big shield to protect the city. Could that be possibility hinting at shining armors magical capabilities?

 

(UPDATE 16/06/2016: This theory sucks, disregard everything I just said)

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I would assume he is not but the "Alicorn gene" is super dominant all most guaranteeing the child will be an alicorn. Also Luna and Celestia are siblings so that would also get in the way. 

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Pretty much same as above.

 

Also, we can't distinguish whether the 'Alicorn Gene' is actually a biological process or a magical one. Or both for that matter.

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I had two hamsters a white male with red eyes and a creamy female with black eyes and whenever they had babies the offspring always looked like the mother but some had grey coats just as an example. I think Cadence has the more dominant genes so no I don't think Shining is an alicorn.

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It would be a good theory, but in the show, real life genetics simply doesn't apply:

 

 

The writers make up stuff to make episodes work, there is no real life chain of logic to follow. Just enjoy the show. 

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Pony genetics are apparently super wonky at times. As posted above, the Cake Twins were somehow born at the same time, were conceived by two Earth Ponies but somehow, one was a Unicorn, the other a Pegasus. That is Equestrian genetics at work I guess. :P So with how bonkers that was, Flurry being an Alicorn because of her mother, it isn't so far fetched.

 

Well, except for the obvious problem that an Alicorn birth has never been seen in Equestria ever and even Rarity questioned this big plothole, but still, I will roll with it for this thread.

 

Point being, there is no reason that shows that Shining is an alicorn.

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It's rather simple, really. Assuming that the Alicorn gene is recessive, then Alicorn transformation is really more like genetic modification. Think of it as every cell in your body being simultaneously forced to accept an unnatural mutant strand of DNA, as a pair of wings (or a horn) thrust their way out of your fully-developed skeleton and through your skin. Possibly even involving feather growth!

 

Anyway, while Shining Armor being an alicorn is a rather daft proposition, he could very well carry a recessive Alicorn gene somewhere in his body, which means he and Cadence would basically have a 50/50 chance or conceiving an Alicorn.

 

If the gene is dominant, then Shining Armor definitely doesn't have the gene, but we've still got the same 50/50 chance of Alicorn conception.

 

And if it's recessive, but Shining doesn't have it, then maybe Cadence should learn a thing or two about honesty, because something else is clearly going on here.

 

 

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Remember the punnet square thing you learned in middle school? That makes your theory untrue. I think that unicorn is dominant and alicorn is recessive, and shining armor got the dominant one, but since Flurry is an alicorn and Cadence is also an alicorn, Shining must have a heterozygous set of genes.

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No, Shining Armor has no wings, so Flurry Heart will have inherited that gene from Cadance, which is interesting as that means somepony who was made into an Alicorn has their DNA completely changed to one, as opposed to simply having the properties of one. I also don't buy into my friend's theory that Cadance contributed Pegasus DNA while Shining Armor contributed his Unicorn DNA to make her an Alicorn, because that is based on the assumption that there has been absolutely no interbreeding in the history of Equestria, as that would mean that there would be more Alicorns than just five, or at least more ponies who have wings and horns (and probably lack the properties of Earth Ponies to make them a complete Alicorn).

 

Personally, I think cross breeding is not only possible, but highly probable given Equestria's vast history. In fact, as one of the above posts points out, Mrs. Cake was busy doing just that unbeknownst to Mr. Cake back in season 2. That's about as definitive proof as we can get. Clearly ponies take on the species of one of their parents. That's not to say they can't have properties of other species. Just because Cadance was a Pegasus, doesn't mean she can't be a distant descendant of Princess Amore. Moreover, I actually do believe that the reason why Pegasi like her and Fluttershy can cast a particular spell through a stare is because they have unicorn heritage somewhere down the line. I also believe that Rarity has some Earth Pony in her. Sure, I don't have definitive proof for these headcanons, but I don't think that's the point of coming up with headcanons.

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Uh, no. He is very clearly shown to not have wings and we've seen Big Mac as an alicorn so the suggestion that male alicorns don't have wings is out the window. The fact that Cadance was an alicorn is enough that Flurry is one. Also, Shining's big magic spell barrier thing was his job wasn't it? 

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Since I've seen every episode, and know that it was never mentioned, and he DOES NOT have wings in any episode he appears in, I know with complete and utter certainty that he isn't an Alicorn.

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I am going to have to say no to me its like Dragonball Z where only the males can go super sayian, but the the females can't, but in the mlp world only the females can become alicorns and the males can't I know that's not canon so please don't kill me :please: and even though Flutterheart was born a alicorn it could be that her mothers genes is stronger not only that it could also stem from Cadance's ancestry.

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Uh, no. He is very clearly shown to not have wings and we've seen Big Mac as an alicorn so the suggestion that male alicorns don't have wings is out the window. The fact that Cadance was an alicorn is enough that Flurry is one. Also, Shining's big magic spell barrier thing was his job wasn't it? 

We saw Big Mac as an Alicorn...IN A DREAM.

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Well yeah, that still counts as evidence that that's how male alicorns look.

It only counts as evidence that Big Mac has quite a vivid imagination. I'm not saying male Unicorns don't become alicorns with wings. I'm saying that something in such a traumatic dream can't be used as evidence of anything.

 

Case in point. Oh, and this is actually true. I had a dream last night that I found a hole in my kitchen floor. It lead to my mom and dad's house, where I discovered a huge pile of gold in their basement.

 

Now I wish that dream was evidence of something! In all actuality, I think that dream is only referencing my reading of Larry Niven novels, and an episode of CSI Miami I saw last week. Even with no gold, I would love a stepping disk connecting my house to my mom and dad's!

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It only counts as evidence that Big Mac has quite a vivid imagination. I'm not saying male Unicorns don't become alicorns with wings. I'm saying that something in such a traumatic dream can't be used as evidence of anything.

 

Case in point. Oh, and this is actually true. I had a dream last night that I found a hole in my kitchen floor. It lead to my mom and dad's house, where I discovered a huge pile of gold in their basement.

 

Now I wish that dream was evidence of something! In all actuality, I think that dream is only referencing my reading of Larry Niven novels. Even with no gold, I would love a stepping disk connecting my house to my mom and dad's!

From everything I've looked up in the last five minutes I can conclude that male alicorns would look similar to female alicorns, other than the fact that they are male. Plus, we don't know whether Big mac saw himself as how he was or whether he just wanted to be an alicorn and that's how male alicorns look. 

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From everything I've looked up in the last five minutes I can conclude that male alicorns would look similar to female alicorns, other than the fact that they are male. Plus, we don't know whether Big mac saw himself as how he was or whether he just wanted to be an alicorn and that's how male alicorns look. 

I'm not disagreeing. I'm only stating that an image in a dream can not be used as evidence that male alicorns have wings. Fluttershy dreaming that Angel Bunny is a giant slavering monster can't be used as evidence that he really is.

(He is a little b*tch, though!)

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I'm not disagreeing. I'm only stating that an image in a dream can not be used as evidence that male alicorns have wings. Fluttershy dreaming that Angel Bunny is a giant slavering monster can't be used as evidence that he really is.

(He is a little b*tch, though!)

No, what I mean is that Big Mac might want to appear as an alicorn, so he does, which can be used as evidence. However, it could be that that's how he imagines he would look as an alicorn, in which case it can't be used as evidence.

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No, what I mean is that Big Mac might want to appear as an alicorn, so he does, which can be used as evidence. However, it could be that that's how he imagines he would look as an alicorn, in which case it can't be used as evidence.

How do we know it isn't that Big Mac has desires to be a female? If so, maybe he picked the most powerful female image to emulate. No court of law would accept "That's how I dreamed it" as evidence of anything.

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