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this_zps4sb6soh1.jpgSo What does everyone think of recolors?


 


I have a hate for them because I feel they are lazy but I do understand why it happens.


Tho I feel taking someones art and drawing hair on it shouldn't count as your " OC".


 


 


 


(No idea where to put this topic) XD

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I remember the first time i've created my oc, it was a recolor of Celestia, and I feel ashamed of myself back then, but it was the only thing I could do at the time.

 

It depends of how the person recolors a image, if it's a good recolor or it's a terrible recolor. I'm not much into commenting about such thing.

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I remember the first time i've created my oc, it was a recolor of Celestia, and I feel ashamed of myself back then, but it was the only thing I could do at the time.

 

It depends of how the person recolors a image, if it's a good recolor or it's a terrible recolor. I'm not much into commenting about such thing.

Like I said I understand why its used. I do.

I don't know, I can't get over the gross feeling I get from it. Sense I have had my art Recolored a few time I always feel a bit upset when I see it done to anyone else or even the show. 

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@@Prophet,

 

Yeh, I understand what you're saying, for example, my friend recolored a Twilight vector and called it ReDLight Sparkle, like, it's a evil version of Twilight and it's their oc.

That's...so lazy tho... 

whyyyyy

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I never do recolors for my own OCs because I just don't feel right about it, it just feels....weird. It's like using someone else's toothbrush to me o_o.

 

 However , I also understand other's use of recolors for their OCs , not everyone has the money or means to afford an artist nor would they want to sketch their own. 

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I never do recolors for my own OCs because I just don't feel right about it, it just feels....weird. It's like using someone else's toothbrush o_o.

 

 However , I also understand other's use of recolors for their OCs , not everyone has the money or means to afford an artist nor would they want to sketch their own. 

I agree.

Even so I think people should take there time and try to draw an oc. 

Yes it is hard, Yes it takes time. 

At least its not a rip off of someone elses work tho.

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I'm definitely on the side of the fence of "not a big fan of them". While I understand people lack creativity, recolors are the bottom of the barrel for me.

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Even so I think people should take there time and try to draw an oc.  Yes it is hard, Yes it takes time.  At least its not a rip off of someone elses work tho.

 

 

I agree. re-coloring someone else's OC (Especially if it were their own art) and passing it off as their own without any credit is like taking someone else's OC backstory, editing some of the words and using it as your own. It hurts...

 

However, I also understand the intent of these Users....They mean no harm and at most don't even know how it affects the original creators who created them. They do not understand nor have knowledge of the stigma that follows having a recolored OC, and those that do, simply don't care. They love ponies as much as we do and just having a character that they can connect with is enough for them, re-colored or not. 

 

I can't really be mad at those folks for that

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I agree. re-coloring someone else's OC (Especially if it were their own art) and passing it off as their own without any credit is like taking someone else's OC backstory, editing some of the words and using it as your own. It hurts...

 

However, I also understand the intent of these Users....They mean no harm and at most don't even know how it affects the original creators who created them. They do not understand nor have knowledge of the stigma that follows having a recolored OC, and those that do, simply don't care. They love ponies as much as we do and just having a character that they can connect is enough for them, re-colored or not. 

 

I can't really be mad at those folks for that

The reason i feel so much... dislike for people that recolor or trace art.

Is because I have have my art taken. More the once . It hurts to see something I worked so hard on being used by others.

 

All my hard work and time shouldn't be used by someone because they feel they can't do all that hard work and time. 

People that recolor need to understand that some pieces take hours to make and putting some hair and changing the eye color doesn't make it there and is disrespectful to the artist.

 

I cant stand recolors because I have seen so many of my art. (human anime art/ not pony)

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One thing I find odd I will say is how there is actually a debate about recoloring and people who justify it under certain circumstances, but truthfully I find all the justifications bogus. I really can't think of any argument for recolors that I believe holds water:

 

  • "Well I'm not stealing from an artist, I'm using the show's vectors!" - That the artists who made the show had to make...
  • "Well it's no different than making a fanfiction. That steals from the show!" - A fanfiction takes the established universe and adds to it, reimagines it, or utilizes it to create something new, as does creating an OC. Recoloring is the equivalent of taking an episode changing Applejack's name to George Smith and making the entire store word for word of what happens in the episode. They're not the same.
  • "I can't draw, and paying an artist costs money that I don't have!" - Try to draw, or and this is the part that most people don't want to accept: if you can't afford something you shouldn't have it. If you can't afford it, make it yourself or have a friend who can make it for you then you have to do what people have always done when they wanted something but couldn't afford to pay for it, just accept you can't have it. I would love a brand new BMW, but I can't afford it. It doesn't make it okay to steal it. If you can't afford something you generally don't get to have it, that's how the world works. It may seem "unfair" but the truth is that life isn't fair and you don't "need" an OC, it's optional. You are not hurting by not having one.
  • "I'm not hurting anyone!" - Debatable. However if you steal $50 from a man who doesn't notice it's gone you could also argue you're "not hurting anyone", but does that make it any less wrong?
  • "Artists expect too much for art!" - Sometimes, yes. However you can always go to a different artist.
  • "I'm not creative enough to create my own OC!" - Find someone who is.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

 

Now to be objective though, at the same time I can't exactly feel 100% sympathy for all artists either. A lot of people don't want to talk about this because it's a "taboo" to even mention artists being in the wrong, but in all fairness:

 

  • Many artists are using pirated software and when I know for a fact that someone is using stolen software to make art... It makes it VERRRRRY difficult to feel sorry for them considering they are stealing from other artists (Software designers) and getting upset that people are stealing from them. If an artist is legit then I definitely can feel 100% sympathetic with them. Same goes with pirated music. If you're stealing other artists work and yours gets stolen? Tough noogies.
  • Many artists fall for common scams such as art schools which overcharge and don't pump out degrees worth even half of what they cost despite the internet being readily available for research. If you pursue art as a profession you should know its job turn out and how hard it is to survive as an artist, so you sort of know what you got yourself into.
  • There sadly is a bad aura in the artist world of artists who have inflated egos. It's common sadly, and it makes it harder for people to feel sympathetic with artists when these people are in existence.
  • There is a HUGE lack of professionalism by many artists that ruin the image for all artists. People who engage in "the customer is always wrong" mentality and treat paid commissions like the person you're dealing with is supposed to pamper you and that they are not entitled to make sure what they are paying for is to their standards. There is a HUGE stigma for customers to even criticize something they are paying for and ask it to be fixed. If a customer is unhappy with a work and denies payment because it's not what was agreed upon, they are often blacklisted.

There are a lot of problems in the artist community that need to be addressed if they want people to start taking them more seriously. When you see someone doing any of this crap, call them out on in.

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One thing I find odd I will say is how there is actually a debate about recoloring and people who justify it under certain circumstances, but truthfully I find all the justifications bogus. I really can't think of any argument for recolors that I believe holds water:

 

  • "Well I'm not stealing from an artist, I'm using the show's vectors!" - That the artists who made the show had to make...
  • "Well it's no different than making a fanfiction. That steals from the show!" - A fanfiction takes the established universe and adds to it, reimagines it, or utilizes it to create something new, as does creating an OC. Recoloring is the equivalent of taking an episode changing Applejack's name to George Smith and making the entire store word for word of what happens in the episode. They're not the same.
  • "I can't draw, and paying an artist costs money that I don't have!" - Try to draw, or and this is the part that most people don't want to accept: if you can't afford something you shouldn't have it. If you can't afford it, make it yourself or have a friend who can make it for you then you have to do what people have always done when they wanted something but couldn't afford to pay for it, just accept you can't have it. I would love a brand new BMW, but I can't afford it. It doesn't make it okay to steal it. If you can't afford something you generally don't get to have it, that's how the world works. It may seem "unfair" but the truth is that life isn't fair and you don't "need" an OC, it's optional. You are not hurting by not having one.
  • "I'm not hurting anyone!" - Debatable. However if you steal $50 from a man who doesn't notice it's gone you could also argue you're "not hurting anyone", but does that make it any less wrong?
  • "Artists expect too much for art!" - Sometimes, yes. However you can always go to a different artist.
  • "I'm not creative enough to create my own OC!" - Find someone who is.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

 

Now to be objective though, at the same time I can't exactly feel 100% sympathy for all artists either. A lot of people don't want to talk about this because it's a "taboo" to even mention artists being in the wrong, but in all fairness:

 

  • Many artists are using pirated software and when I know for a fact that someone is using stolen software to make art... It makes it VERRRRRY difficult to feel sorry for them considering they are stealing from other artists (Software designers) and getting upset that people are stealing from them. If an artist is legit then I definitely can feel 100% sympathetic with them. Same goes with pirated music. If you're stealing other artists work and yours gets stolen? Tough noogies.
  • Many artists fall for common scams such as art schools which overcharge and don't pump out degrees worth even half of what they cost despite the internet being readily available for research. If you pursue art as a profession you should know its job turn out and how hard it is to survive as an artist, so you sort of know what you got yourself into.
  • There sadly is a bad aura in the artist world of artists who have inflated egos. It's common sadly, and it makes it harder for people to feel sympathetic with artists when these people are in existence.
  • There is a HUGE lack of professionalism by many artists that ruin the image for all artists. People who engage in "the customer is always wrong" mentality and treat paid commissions like the person you're dealing with is supposed to pamper you and that they are not entitled to make sure what they are paying for is to their standards. There is a HUGE stigma for customers to even criticize something they are paying for and ask it to be fixed. If a customer is unhappy with a work and denies payment because it's not what was agreed upon, they are often blacklisted.

There are a lot of problems in the artist community that need to be addressed if they want people to start taking them more seriously. When you see someone doing any of this crap, call them out on in.

I stay out of the art commutation. I have 2 places I post art and that is a lack of it sense I don't post the same art on each site.

I know art community its fucked.

Trust I get that.

I don't feel my art is special and I never have. I always try to be better tho.

 

People that do recolors need to understand what are doing. Big artist have egos because they worked hard for it. So I can give them that. Some artist take days to make one piece of work then to see it reposted on a secondary site and claimed as someone else piece is heart breaking. ( It turning me into more and more of a dick)

 

I'm not a great artist but some drawing I take a few hours and a lot of planning to put together. Finding my oc on Deviant art recolored is horrible. I hate it. I hate that I can't do anything about and they have this " I didn't take it" act. As if my art was free for them. I'm not showing my art to have it redone. I'm showing it because I want to show off my talent. Something i worked hard for, something I try to improve day after day.

 

Recolors and tracing down grade the original. It's so frustrating! 

I can see someone getting likes on my art, I hate that. Someone took a sketch of mine colored it like a youtuber and sent it to them as fan art and had it retwittered on there twitter. 

 

Like... uuuuuggghhhh

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I think if you're first creating an OC, then re-colours are a good place to start. My first OC was a re-colour of Rainbow Dash. But I think once you start developing your OC more, you should stop using re-colours as they limit you do what you can do. I think people should just have a go at drawing their OC, even if they aren't that good, they can still have total freedom over what they do.

 

I also get very annoyed when I see people posting re-colours and base edits on Deviant Art, and they have so many more watchers and page views, then people putting effort into actual art. 

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@@Prophet

First off, that picture on the top XDDDD HILLARIOUS. Seriously, I rolled on the floor with that one. 

 

Right now, I've only got reskins of my OC and even though I actually do have about 3 or 4 real sketches, they're on paper and the time it takes to scan and photoshop every single detail (perfectionist urge kickin' in) is exhausting and much more time-consuming than drawing the whole thing over again. I agree with @@SpectraDust, it's a good place to start, but they should never see the light of day. 

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I see recolours as lazy, and retain the right to refuse to draw them when they are requested.

 

I can understand ones first OC being a recolour, I mean just look at my first draft of Zarosian from 2013 (though it was hand-drawn, you can clearly see it's basically just a Braeburn recolour.  (Safe to say he is definitely original now.)

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but it's still not really acceptable to keep a re-colour long term.I often find a lot of re-colours being purely based on aesthetic value and never having any backstory; basically being a case of "I just wanted to have a visual OC, all that other stuff will come later"

 

When ti comes to stealing someone elses OC and just re-colouring the mane, that is unforgivable. stealing someone elses work, is lazy; unoriginal; and very very frustrating...

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They're incredibly lazy and unethical. I get if you're uncreative, but don't go stealing artwork, and claim it as your own simply because you changed colors

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