What do you think about Donald Trump?

[Brightbart 268]

Hillary is not a good candidate, but it's bad vs BAAAAD. End of all minorities, women and poor people.

If Trump wins I actually might just off myself, and I don't even live in that country.

You can't actually be serious...

[Zyrael 1,471]

You'd be hard pressed to find anything on Trump that fits the rhetoric. It's all baseless, he isn't racist or sexist and he doesn't hate lgbt people.

I wouldn't be voting for him as a trans girl if I didn't think I'd be safe in a country under his presidency.

 

I always have to remind people it's not just trump alone that's the problem. It's the republican party. Mike Pence? have you heard of him? he's trump's chosen running mate. He's about as anti-LGBT as they come. Take a minute and look into his track record on gay rights, for your own good. 

 

If trump wins, it's not just trump who wins. It's all the people who want to inflict real harm on you, and all the kinds of people here commenting. Just keep that all in mind when you vote. Even putting all else aside, trump has 0 political experience. He can't and doesn't answer questions directly put to him. He wants to be president because he has a colossal ego. The guy had his own reality show dedicated to him he and erects buildings all over bearing his name in giant gold letters for christ sake. He doesn't know the first thing about being president, and he certainly doesn't care about gay people.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Zyrael

[Raven Drakeaurd 292]

What I think of trump Can not be said on here, the best I could do is say I Loath him

Edited November 7, 2016 by Raven Drakeaurd

[Roughshod 719]

Despite all his flaws I think it's great to see a member of the Orange community rise so far and so quickly. It's fantastic, believe me. We are going to start winning again. And by 'we' I mean we are going to watch Trump winning, which is what's really important here. Don't fall for the lies of the corrupt media(excluding the apprentice and other Trump subsidiaries) and the same old politicians, mainly the ones who don't endorse Trump or say mean and nasty things about him. We're gonna sue them don't worry about it.

 

When soon-to-be Emperor Trump takes office in the (once again) White House he will hit ISIS so hard and so fast, not only will their heads spin, their acronym will spin back to SISI which is what they'll be when they see the might of Donald J. Trump. These are bad people folks. I can't stress that enough. But just ask their families and you better hurry because they're next in line for the... Pop Rocks he'll be dishing out. And Chyna? Please, they may be smart, crafty, sneaky and all the other offensively dated east-Asian stereotypes, but nobody compares to the magnificent genius that is Donald Trump's strategic mind.

 

A lot of Donald's rough edges come from growing up in the rough environment that is Loompaland which, as you and Willy Wonka all know is a terrible place. They're living in hell. Crime is up even though it isn't, that's how bad it is! Can you believe it? (If not could you at least pretend to? It would really help with our poll numbers.) You see the Oompinos desperately need a means to protect themselves, something big league and tall and difficult to break through. Something sturdy that will stick around and obstruct your path. Like a... Miss Universe contestant perhaps? I suppose Rosie O'Donnell might do.

 

Don't worry about Crooked Hillary either, she'll be sleeping on a bed of emails in her cozy prison cell. Shell try to rig this election every way she can, but His Grace Donald Trump is a noble and honorable man who will graciously accept the outcome once he has won.

 

Actually, much of Donald's orange peal, uh, I mean appeal, comes from Oompa culture itself. The Oompa-Americans love him. They also believe in grabbing life by colloquial terms for female genitalia with their tiny HUUUGE hands and making others pay for it. I assume some of them are good people though.

 

 

I'm with you Donald! Doompity Doo!

Edited November 7, 2016 by Roughshod

[Kagami-sama 319]

I think he's a big meany!

 

 

I'm voting for him!

 

[Member Berry 1,217]

Just thought I'd post this here:

 

https://twitter.com/armandoarrieta/status/790554905819934724/photo/1

 

Just sayin'

[Meire 100]

Uummm... he's a guy, politician. He can be good even if i can disagree with some stuff he says

[honk friend 1,966]

I always have to remind people it's not just trump alone that's the problem. It's the republican party. Mike Pence? have you heard of him? he's trump's chosen running mate. He's about as anti-LGBT as they come. Take a minute and look into his track record on gay rights, for your own good.

 

If trump wins, it's not just trump who wins. It's all the people who want to inflict real harm on you, and all the kinds of people here commenting. Just keep that all in mind when you vote. Even putting all else aside, trump has 0 political experience. He can't and doesn't answer questions directly put to him. He wants to be president because he has a colossal ego. The guy had his own reality show dedicated to him he and erects buildings all over bearing his name in giant gold letters for christ sake. He doesn't know the first thing about being president, and he certainly doesn't care about gay people.

Not everyone in the Republican party is the same and Trump is a testament to that. As you said, he doesn't care. There are more pressing issues in the U.S. right now and lgbt people have all the same rights normal people do. Trump has no interest in taking anybody's rights away and I'm sure Pence doesn't either.

As for Trump only running because he has a massive ego, watch this when you have the time.

https://youtu.be/OCabT_O0YSM

Get stumped

Edited November 7, 2016 by Beatrice

[Zyrael 1,471]

Despite all his flaws I think it's great to see a member of the Orange community rise so far and so quickly. It's fantastic, believe me. We are going to start winning again. And by 'we' I mean we are going to watch Trump winning, which is what's really important here. Don't fall for the lies of the corrupt media(excluding the apprentice and other Trump subsidiaries) and the same old politicians, mainly the ones who don't endorse Trump or say mean and nasty things about him. We're gonna sue them don't worry about it.

 

When soon-to-be Emperor Trump takes office in the (once again) White House he will hit ISIS so hard and so fast, not only will their heads spin, their acronym will spin back to SISI which is what they'll be when they see the might of Donald J. Trump. These are bad people folks. I can't stress that enough. But just ask their families and you better hurry because they're next in line for the... Pop Rocks he'll be dishing out. And Chyna? Please, they may be smart, crafty, sneaky and all the other offensively dated east-Asian stereotypes, but nobody compares to the magnificent genius that is Donald Trump's strategic mind.

 

A lot of Donald's rough edges come from growing up in the rough environment that is Loompaland which, as you and Willy Wonka all know is a terrible place. They're living in hell. Crime is up even though it isn't, that's how bad it is! Can you believe it? (If not could you at least pretend to? It would really help with our poll numbers.) You see the Oompinos desperately need a means to protect themselves, something big league and tall and difficult to break through. Something sturdy that will stick around and obstruct your path. Like a... Miss Universe contestant perhaps? I suppose Rosie O'Donnell might do.

 

Don't worry about Crooked Hillary either, she'll be sleeping on a bed of emails in her cozy prison cell. Shell try to rig this election every way she can, but His Grace Donald Trump is a noble and honorable man who will graciously accept the outcome once he has won.

 

Actually, much of Donald's orange peal, uh, I mean appeal, comes from Oompa culture itself. The Oompa-Americans love him. They also believe in grabbing life by colloquial terms for female genitalia with their tiny HUUUGE hands and making others pay for it. I assume some of them are good people though.

 

trump_oompa_1_0_1460648496.jpg

 

I'm with you Donald! Doompity Doo!

 

that was beautiful.

 

 

As for Trump only running because he has a massive ego, watch this when you have the time.

https://youtu.be/OCabT_O0YSM

 

I must correct myself, I used the wrong word. It's bigly, not colossal. His ego is bigly.

 

 

 

 lgbt people have all the same rights normal people do. 

 

Now that's just insulting. But I won't turn this into a debate about the state of LGBT rights, you can look into that yourself.

 

 

 and I'm sure Pence doesn't either.

 

What makes you sure? because that's a very bold statement on your part.

 

 

Not everyone in the Republican party is the same and Trump is a testament to that. 

 

Edited November 7, 2016 by Zyrael

[honk friend 1,966]

Now that's just insulting. But I won't turn this into a debate about the state of LGBT rights, you can look into that yourself.

To address the only thing resembling an actual point in your post, I look in to this myself on a day to day basis as a trans girl *living in Texas of all the places* and I have yet to be denied any right that a cis person would otherwise have. In fact, if I was living in a state like California then the government would be actively going against the first amendment to protect me, I.E. I'd be getting MORE rights than cis people.

[Citation Needed] on the rights I lack.

Also, this isn't tumblr, reaction images aren't real arguments.

[Zyrael 1,471]

To address the only thing resembling an actual point in your post

 

 

What makes you sure? because that's a very bold statement on your part.

 

I had a point bringing up pence but you just ignored it like it didn't matter. Saying something along the lines of "I'm sure he doesn't intend to work against people's rights" is a statement that I need you to somehow verify. Because from where I'm standing, that's just ignoring the problem. You can't just say, "well, it'll probably be fine" that's not good enough.

 

To address the only thing resembling an actual point in your post, I look in to this myself on a day to day basis as a trans girl *living in Texas of all the places* and I have yet to be denied any right that a cis person would otherwise have. In fact, if I was living in a state like California then the government would be actively going against the first amendment to protect me, I.E. I'd be getting MORE rights than cis people.

[Citation Needed] on the rights I lack.

 

(1) "the United States still lacks a federal law outlawing discrimination nationwide, leaving many states without any protections from discrimination, other than from federal executive orders which are more limited in scope than from protections through federal legislation."

 

(2) "some frequent examples of discrimination and other forms of oppression faced by the transgender community are violence and hate crimes, homelessness, poverty, sexual assault, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, harassment, bullying, disproportionate rates of arrest and incarceration, prison and immigration violence and mistreatment, airport security humiliation, HIV+/AIDS and health disparities"

 

Also, this isn't tumblr, reaction images aren't real arguments.

 

I don't know, those are the replies trump gives in "serious arguments" and it's worked out great for him. They served a point, so let's not get salty about it.

 

 

If you want to play this game I can certainly play it. I might reply sooner, I might reply later. Because I have a life to get to. I really, really would rather not get into this long-winded debate. You need to take it upon yourself to investigate these things. There's a reason I'm not voting for trump, several reasons. It's not just because I don't like him, or I don't think he would make a good president as he's exceptionally ill-prepared. But you yourself shouldn't be swayed by a person's words alone- trump's actions speak better for him. And his actions speak very loudly to me about a number of things, including the fact that he was perfectly willing to make a lot of money for himself without giving back to the communities he profited from, and that despite what he's said regarding LGBT rights, his actions speak to the contrary. 

Edited November 7, 2016 by Zyrael

[Ninjaed 526]

(2) "some frequent examples of discrimination and other forms of oppression faced by the transgender community are violence and hate crimes, homelessness, poverty, sexual assault, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, harassment, bullying, disproportionate rates of arrest and incarceration, prison and immigration violence and mistreatment, airport security humiliation, HIV+/AIDS and health disparities"

 

Unless you have figures to compare the rate of those crimes against your average person vs your average transgender, your point doesn't stand. It's not just transgenders who can suffer from those things, after all. Maybe you've heard/read more about such incidents because the shock value is higher, but it doesn't make it occur more often - again, unless you have figures to share.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Ninjaed

[Zyrael 1,471]

Unless you have figures to compare the rate of those crimes against your average person vs your average transgender, your point doesn't stand. It's not just transgenders who can suffers from those things, after all. Maybe you've heard/read more about such incidents because the shock value is higher, but it doesn't make it occur more often - again, unless you have figures to share.

 

Then look into these sources and decide for yourself. You both seem overly skeptical about the idea that transgender people face discrimination in this country-  that surprises me. Granted, I have seen people deny the fact that black people face discrimination, and women too. It's fine to be skeptical, I'm not begrudging you for that. But I should think these things would be obvious, to some extent. Regardless about where you're getting your information from, you'd have to blindly deny it and pretend it doesn't exist outright to go as far as to say LGBT stand on the exact same ground as heterosexual people in this country, trump supporter or no.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-38

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-39

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-40

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-41

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-42

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-43

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-45

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-46

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-47

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-48

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-advocate.com-49

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-50

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-nbcnews.com-51

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-msnbc.com-52

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-53

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-54

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-55

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-56

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States#cite_note-58

[Ninjaed 526]

Links.

 

2015: 21 transgender deaths in all the US of America, 1861 in total...in California.

 

1% of the total population is comprised of transgenders. 21 is between 1% and 2% of 1861 - which was just ONE state. Yup, you've proven my point, thanks.

[Darthy Hooves 106]

Trump is a dangerous man unfit to be President because he's fascist, racist, homophobic & a pervert.

[honk friend 1,966]

I had a point bringing up pence but you just ignored it like it didn't matter. Saying something along the lines of "I'm sure he doesn't intend to work against people's rights" is a statement that I need you to somehow verify. Because from where I'm standing, that's just ignoring the problem. You can't just say, "well, it'll probably be fine" that's not good enough.

Must have missed it, but generally speaking politicians have no interest in taking peoples' rights away particularly because of the pain it would cause not only in foreign relations but domestic relations as well, and the president and VP have no power to do that alone so while the odds of Pence genuinely wanting to do something he's probably aware is evil are low enough, the odds he'll actually be able to are next to zero. Also worth noting that the president and VP had nothing to do with the ruling on same sex marriage so Pence is powerless to repeal that.

(1) "the United States still lacks a federal law outlawing discrimination nationwide, leaving many states without any protections from discrimination, other than from federal executive orders which are more limited in scope than from protections through federal legislation."

 

(2) "some frequent examples of discrimination and other forms of oppression faced by the transgender community are violence and hate crimes, homelessness, poverty, sexual assault, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, harassment, bullying, disproportionate rates of arrest and incarceration, prison and immigration violence and mistreatment, airport security humiliation, HIV+/AIDS and health disparities"

I already made the point against this. These aren't rights non-minorities have and ultimately would go against the first amendment if implemented. They're special treatment if anything and go against my beliefs as a libertarian.

I don't know, those are the replies trump gives in "serious arguments" and it's worked out great for him. They served a point, so let's not get salty about it.

Oh, Trump uses reaction gifs in arguments with no context? Looks like I won't be voting for him.

Don't play off my point as salt, there's not nearly as much wit in using reaction gifs as tumblr would have you believe.

 

If you want to play this game I can certainly play it. I might reply sooner, I might reply later. Because I have a life to get to. I really, really would rather not get into this long-winded debate. You need to take it upon yourself to investigate these things. There's a reason I'm not voting for trump, several reasons. It's not just because I don't like him, or I don't think he would make a good president as he's exceptionally ill-prepared. But you yourself shouldn't be swayed by a person's words alone- trump's actions speak better for him. And his actions speak very loudly to me about a number of things, including the fact that he was perfectly willing to make a lot of money for himself without giving back to the communities he profited from, and that despite what he's said regarding LGBT rights, his actions speak to the contrary.

Another [Citation Needed] on that last bit. Also funny how the guy telling me not to be so easily manipulated is quite manipulative himself.

Trump is a dangerous man unfit to be President because he's fascist, racist, homophobic & a pervert.

How many times do I have to tell you guys to provide evidence before you get the hint?

[Ninjaed 526]

So far, I am more or less without opinion on the matter. Not being American, it doesn't really concern me. I have noticed far more logical fallacies and opinion-stating without sound arguments to substantiate them than anything else however. The LGBT point was a rather big one that I've (hopefully?) proven at leas partially false. And like Beatrice said, the 1) column would be all but equal rights.

 

Not siding with Trump nor Clinton as there isn't quite enough data provided thus far to have a solid point of view. "Both are bad, but [one] is badder than [the other]" is about all I've read here... Quite sad to see such a big nation ruled by people voted through such "arguments". (not that other countries aren't the same, mind you! )

[Drunk Not I Am 1,069]

Much better than Clinton..... He has my vote. Don't wanna stir up a shitstorm so that's all i'll say. 

[Zyrael 1,471]

Must have missed it, but generally speaking politicians have no interest in taking peoples' rights away particularly because of the pain it would cause not only in foreign relations but domestic relations as well, and the president and VP have no power to do that alone so while the odds of Pence genuinely wanting to do something he's probably aware is evil are low enough, the odds he'll actually be able to are next to zero.

 

The VP oversees procedural matters and may cast a tie-breaking vote. Not to mention since cheney the office has steadily grown in power and influence. I don't see a situation where giving a bad man more power yields anything good than the alternative available to us. You say "politicians" have no interest in taking people's rights away. But that's a direct contradiction to what it is many politicians are able to do, and what they try to do.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/14/10-things-you-should-know-about-mike-pence-who-may-join-donald-trump-on-the-gop-ticket/

 

Another [Citation Needed] on that last bit. Also funny how the guy telling me not to be so easily manipulated is quite manipulative himself.

 

1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html read the whole thing, please. I can provide more if you dismiss that too.

2. He's made statements about being pro-LGBT and yet elects mike pence. These two things are contrary to each other. Do I need to explain why? 

 

 

Don't play off my point as salt, there's not nearly as much wit in using reaction gifs as tumblr would have you believe.

 

"tumblr" this and "tumblr" that. You sound awfully salty to me. Dissing my reaction gifs. Well, I had fun with them at least.

 

 

2015: 21 transgender deaths in all the US of America, 1861 in total...in California.

 

1% of the total population is comprised of transgenders. 21 is between 1% and 2% of 1861 - which was just ONE state. Yup, you've proven my point, thanks.

 

well my point was that LGBT people face a brand of discrimination in the US not faced by cis people. Here's a handy graph which shows (in grey) areas of LGBT rights not addressed on the state level.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2012/may/08/gay-rights-united-states

 

California has the highest population of any single state in the country. So while it may be a single state, it's a significant population. And what point has been proved? You didn't address half of those links, you didn't take the time to. 21 deaths is different from people facing discrimination. Violent or otherwise. Which goes back to my original point, the crux of the issue:

 

 

 Regardless about where you're getting your information from, you'd have to blindly deny it and pretend it doesn't exist outright to go as far as to say LGBT stand on the exact same ground as heterosexual people in this country, trump supporter or no.

 

What matters here is that people face discrimination in regards to the gender they identify as, or their general protections under law as members of the LGBT community here in the united states. I have personal experience of this myself, so I'd rather not hear you dismiss it. So I'll direct you to my following reply:

 

 

I already made the point against this. These aren't rights non-minorities have and ultimately would go against the first amendment if implemented. 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lgbt-state-bills-discrimination_us_570ff4f2e4b0060ccda2a7a9

 

again, read the full article. It illustrates how there is an active fight both for and against LGBT rights at almost every level. This is taking place right now, and it is real. Laws directed specifically against the LGBT communities in those areas, mind you. And many have been in effect, and have been implemented. 

 

 

So far, I am more or less without opinion on the matter. Not being American, it doesn't really concern me. I have noticed far more logical fallacies and opinion-stating without sound arguments to substantiate them than anything else however. The LGBT point was a rather big one that I've (hopefully?) proven at leas partially false. And like Beatrice said, the 1) column would be all but equal rights.

 

Not siding with Trump nor Clinton as there isn't quite enough data provided thus far to have a solid point of view. "Both are bad, but [one] is badder than [the other]" is about all I've read here... Quite sad to see such a big nation ruled by people voted through such "arguments". (not that other countries aren't the same, mind you! )

 

The problem here is that this country is deeply divided on different issues. If one side wins, the other loses. If conservative pro-life politicians take the majority, the pro-choice people lose. Naturally, people react passionately to these things. Which might be more difficult for you to understand, coming from the outside. 

Edited November 7, 2016 by Zyrael

[Connie 319]

To address the only thing resembling an actual point in your post, I look in to this myself on a day to day basis as a trans girl *living in Texas of all the places* and I have yet to be denied any right that a cis person would otherwise have. In fact, if I was living in a state like California then the government would be actively going against the first amendment to protect me, I.E. I'd be getting MORE rights than cis people.

[Citation Needed] on the rights I lack.

Also, this isn't tumblr, reaction images aren't real arguments.

 

Whoa, you destroyed him.

 

 

Back to the topic - I love #DaddyTrumpie. I'd let him grab me by the pussy mangina any day. 

[Cheval 61]

I think he is a symptom of what will soon become a recurring trend: Congressional obstructionism causing more problems than it is within the power of the executive to solve. It is not the president's job to create laws or influence domestic markets, but people hate the other party so much that their representatives can no longer compromise on anything unless they slip an anti-abortion/save-the-environment clause in with the "Just Build Some F*cking Schools" bill. Thus, the president is forced to step in to expedite change of any kind. 

 

The executive branch has become too powerful. The executive agencies have become too powerful. It has created the potential for complete despotism by a single person. Agree or disagree with the candidates, this is dangerous and BOTH parties have to stop it.

[Ninjaed 526]

 More links.

 

I simply took the first 2 links, checked whether they stood...and they didn't. If you give links to support your claim, make sure they actually do then. Burden of proof. As for the new links, only the guardian one concerns me, so let met check:

 

 

Federal hate crime laws extend protection for crimes related to one's sexual orientation or gender identity. At the state level, more than ten states have hate crime laws that lack the inclusion of gender identity or sexual orientation. Of the others, over 30 states include sexual orientation in their hate crime laws with just under half also including gender identity.

 

So, laws that "include sexual orientation" and crimes based on them. Okay, it proves, what? That some states offer unequal protection and treating people differently in a nation of equal rights? Your point was that LGBT suffered from more discrimination and crimes than the average person. This doesn't serve in any way to prove that point. I know I've only quoted part of it, but the rest doesn't provide any figures whatsoever. It only states "stuff related to LGBT happened here and not there". That's completely beside the point we're discussing.

 

Next you say you've suffered from discrimination of some sorts and I'm sorry to hear that. However, other people have as well, and not LGBT. In an homophobic society, you'd be right. That's why I've asked for figures. If the crime rate against LGBT isn't higher than for the average individual, your point doesn't stand as it doesn't prove the society to be homophobic. You could have liked computers and be discriminated against by technophobic people, for all I know. Or you could be red-headed. I'd feel for you in that case.   (joking of course)

 

So far, I've proven LGBT do not suffer from a higher murder rate, on the contrary in fact. BUT if you have figures proving me that the discrimination is real in that it's significantly higher than for the average community, I'll bow down before your sword of evidence.

 

 

On the politics stuff, it's the same here. Some "win", others "lose"...and the people who supposedly voted, no one cares about them. That's why I hate politics with a passion. They handpick their "experts" (who often aren't) so that they share the same views and be sure their ideas are put in motion - often against the wishes of the teachers or medical staff, if I take the education and health examples.

 

 

PS: no, you are a "him"! :=:

"Rule 29. On the internet, all girls are men, and all kids are undercover FBI agents or Justice Decoys." See?

 

 

Edit: I forgot to say... Such "fights" for their rights, attracting so much attention and all is only making life worse for them. Because of how much it's been talked about, a few have voted idiotic laws. Keep telling "you must help us with our rights" to people, and you'll see you'll more and more siding against you by the day. Feminists annoy people for the same reason.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Ninjaed

[honk friend 1,966]

I'm done here. I'm not going to try to appeal to someone who thinks huffpo is a credible source.

[Ninjaed 526]

I'm done here. I'm not going to try to appeal to someone who thinks huffpo is a credible source.

 

I don't know huffpo (huffingtopost I assume). Are they really not credible? What makes them not?

[Concerned Bystander 2,901]

 

 

I don't know huffpo (huffingtopost I assume). Are they really not credible? What makes them not?

 

There are very few (if any) media outlets that can be considered truly impartial.  The Huffington Post, although they are seemingly rather more centred now, began as an unashamedly liberal-left outlet.  Irrespective of their current stance, a reputation for bias is something that will always be hard to shake off.

 

The perceived credibility of any media will always be tied to the position of the beholder.  In the same way that liberals will scoff at Fox news as being a conservative mouthpiece, the Huffington post will attract exactly the same kind of dismissal from conservatives.

 

You really have to try and work past the media and get to the original source material if you want something that isn't skewed by an editorial slant one way or the other.  Of course, even the source material can be weighted depending on the agenda of whosoever has produced it.

 

Basically is it hard to accept any media outlet as being particularly credible, and the media industry brought that mistrust on themselves.