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The moment Bernie lost was the moment I lost all hope but I was at least thinking "Well at least if Hillary wins, it will just be a status quo for 4 more years." And now look at it. Now we are doomed. All is good in the glorious land of hopeless dreams and endless debt.

That guy sucked. He gave away his donations to the Clinton campaign. He deserved to lose honestly. His followers were among the most violent angry people ever.

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That guy sucked. He gave away his donations to the Clinton campaign. He deserved to lose honestly. His followers were among the most violent angry people ever.

He gave away the money to that campaign because he had nothing else to do at that point. He lost the nomination, what else was he going to do? Once he lost he probably witness the beginning of America becoming even more of a cultureless cesspool and just wanted to go with the better of two shitty options.

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You people are over-exaggerating over the fact that Donald Trump actually wants to help America as a whole get back up in its glory days with a very stable economy and quickly pay down the federal debt even more. I really like that he wants to bring taxes down for everyone, which is a good thing overall. As higher taxes always will stifle growth.

Remember, he supported his own campaign with his own money. He never got money from globalists and big banks to fund his campaign. And in the end, he did just fine without their support.

The movement he created isn't going to die out anytime soon, because the supporters knew there was something very different and special about Trump compared to Clinton.

If you have been following the mainstream media, like CNN, NBC, CBS, etc., I'm disappointed to say that you may have just fallen for their lies because of the obvious left-wing bias they had and how much they are freaking out like cry-babies over Trump simply being elected, because the awoken American people voted against tyranny and voted for prosperity and peace (in which, Hillary already had an agenda to do the exact opposite of what Trump imposes).

This is a very historical moment and a lesson for the whole world, to not allow the government to take too much control over your life. I personally do not like big governments, as they may take a big amount of control over our lives, instead of letting us live life how we want it without hindering regulations that may hurt everyone in the long-run.

I as a Canadian (and the eldest of Balkan (southeastern European parents), am glad to see America did not make the same mistake Europe has already made (since they would if they voted for Hillary).

Just remember to pay attention to his actions. As "Actions always speak louder than words." Throughout his life, he was a man of action, and I can see that he will keep his promises to take immediate action when he walks in the Oval Office as the 45th POTUS.

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>When they say they're going to bring the jobs back

>The Goold old jobs

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tfw the dankness of working for top-wages in the lowest possible skilled work is long gone. The more we program and develop, the more low-cost high-efficiency robots we put out. The narrative Trump puts out that America is going to start manufacturing again and put the Rust Belt back to work is a sweet lullaby, but that's all it is. Truth is, America is producing as much as it has been, just with less people. The more automated services that are enrolled into our factories the less hands we need on deck to do it. And the more machines keep advancing the more dexterous work they'll do.

 

All that industry that supposedly left the states hasn't left the states, or not totally. It's just that it's done with fewer hands on deck. The work of twenty men can be done with a single or two men monitoring the day-to-day programs and procedures to keep the line working or doing simple maintenance. But this roll now involves so much high-tech equipment to get on the job you need specialized training. And then to stay on the job you need to keep up-to-date. You have to be college educated in a specific engineering field to even be involved in manufacture anymore. But we don't like to blame the machines, the machines are our children so we don't fault them. Instead we fault our neighbors for manufacturing like we did forty years ago.

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He gave away the money to that campaign because he had nothing else to do at that point. He lost the nomination, what else was he going to do? Once he lost he probably witness the beginning of America becoming even more of a cultureless cesspool and just wanted to go with the better of two shitty options.

Its called being a hypocrite. The guy who disliked big banks gave it to someone who is basically the big banks. He could've given it to Jill Stein or any other, but nope he chose Hillary. His followers and him were big losers in my view, i am not huge fan of socialism since i feel its all about handouts and not really encouraging working spirit. I am not hugely anti socialism, just the effect it has on lazyness.

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As a Christian liberal democrat, I am truly disappointed in the outcome of the election. It makes me sick to even consider the idea of a "President Trump." At the very least, it makes me proud to know that my own home state, the state of Oregon, is a strong liberal and democratic state.

 

At this point, I see a few possible options for Hillary.: 

  1. Hillary might still have a small chance when the mailed-in ballots come in. Many are still on their way. In the past, mail-in votes have had a significant effect on the swing states. Even more, mail-in ballots tend to skew towards the democratic side. It's a long shot, but still a possibility (Source).
  2. A recount could be done. There's a very small chance of success.

 

If not, then the best that we can do is either:

  1. Resist and fight back in the senate and the house, essentially "shutting down" government and being uncompromisable like the Republicans did during Obama's term. They did that to us, after all. :P
  2. Hope that Trump messes up badly in office; or hope that he doesn't fulfill his promises and leaves his supporters disappointed (or angry) with him. So that if he tries to run a second time, he won't have enough support to win.
  3. Hope that he gets impeached. (But I'm not sure who's more dangerous: Trump or Mike Pence.)
  4. Get either Elizabeth Warren, Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders to run for office against him. 
  5. Get a famous celebrity democrat to run against him.

 

 

As for my views, I am a moderate liberal. I am a strong environmentalist, but I also believe in most liberal causes. But while I do support things like social welfare like ObamaCare, I don't like the idea of "lazy" people taking advantage of the system. I believe that people need to work hard and honestly for their money. But I also believe that we have a responsibility to help out those who are struggling and those who are less fortunate than us. I also believe that we need to protect the peace in the world, but I also believe we spend far too much on the military. While I support LGBTQ+ rights, I don't like the way they force us into "accepting" it as normal. 

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As a Christian liberal democrat, I am truly disappointed in the outcome of the election. It makes me sick to even consider the idea of a "President Trump." At the very least, it makes me proud to know that my own home state, the state of Oregon, is a strong liberal and democratic state.

 

At this point, I see a few possible options for Hillary.: 

  1. Hillary might still have a small chance when the mailed-in ballots come in. Many are still on their way. In the past, mail-in votes have had a significant effect on the swing states. Even more, mail-in ballots tend to skew towards the democratic side. It's a long shot, but still a possibility. 
  2. A recount could be done. There's a very small chance of success

 

A sixty point lead to Trump and Clinton already honorably conceded the victory. I don't think that'll happen, no need to drag out the drama.

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This is nothing to celebrate. *Cue Luna's Future*

 

This is to show how the morality of this nation has gone to shreds. Trump needs to get impeached and I know he will. He's a hateful man and as far as I'm concerned, America is already great. Trump is just some stupid S5E1 Starlight Glimmer who thinks he'll fix things by bringing out his delusion of change.

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A sixty point lead to Trump and Clinton already honorably conceded the victory. I don't think that'll happen, no need to drag out the drama.

 

 

This is where I read it from. But honestly, I think that its a very small chance, if anything really. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/08/hillary-clinton-will-gain-votes-after-election-night-heres-why/

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This is nothing to celebrate. *Cue Luna's Future*

 

This is to show how the morality of this nation has gone to shreds. Trump needs to get impeached and I know he will. He's a hateful man and as far as I'm concerned, America is already great. Trump is just some stupid S5E1 Starlight Glimmer who thinks he'll fix things by bringing out his delusion of change.

 

 

Something to consider. Would it be better to impeach him and get Mike Pence? Or are we better off with Trump. Honestly, I can't figure out who would be worse. :P

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Trump saying that he'd appoint justices to overturn the same-sex marriage ruling:

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/donald-trump-ill-overturn-the-shocking-gay-marriage-decision-trust-me/

 

Trump's running mate saying that he'd "send Roe vs. Wade to the ash heap of history.":

http://liveactionnews.org/pence-trump-and-i-will-send-roe-v-wade-to-the-ash-heap-of-history/

First link - Forgive me if I missed something but he absolutely did NOT say that, he said it should've been left up to the state and that's a natural response for a republican, I.E. SOMEBODY WHO WANTS LESS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

 

Second link - No comment on Pence. I don't agree with him but he's a necessary evil to keep that disgusting neocon warhawk out of office

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Well, good luck to you Americans. Fingers crossed that some of Trump's rather more... distasteful, remarks turn out to be either hot air or get tuned down. I don't think too much will change. As a democratic socialist I can't say I'm happy, but I wouldn't have been with Clinton either, Sanders would've been my pick had I lived there. Either way, hopefully things will stay on an even keel.

 

Oh, and it gets rid of a major TPP backer. Hopefully that wretched thing will pack up and leave now. Thank you for that at least.

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First link - Forgive me if I missed something but he absolutely did NOT say that, he said it should've been left up to the state and that's a natural response for a republican, I.E. SOMEBODY WHO WANTS LESS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

 

Second link - No comment on Pence. I don't agree with him but he's a necessary evil to keep that disgusting neocon warhawk out of office

 

We're the most powerful country on earth. Now I have to ask you, do you actually think for even a moment the US and russia would enter a full-fledged war with each other? because that's misguided. 

 

If anything, you helped get this evil pig into one of the highest and most powerful positions in our country and have to be held accountable for any and all terrible things he does as consequence of his new office for millions of people who bear no relation to you. So this calls into question one man's words against his own actions and the actions of the party he's propelled into power. I really have to question you and everything you stand for by supporting someone like that. At the very least, with Hillary, we know human rights aren't in any immediate danger. The moment you say hillary is a "warhawk" I'll demand sources and refute them. This is the problem- 

you're willing to dismiss any problems with trump but not hillary. You're willing to support the conservatives, which would happily see you dead under 6 feet of earth, but not democrats who at the very least would pay no mind to us. You have all these people advocating to bring hellfire and brimstone to all people who aren't straight, christian, male, and white and here you stand alongside them. Now prove to me without a shadow of a doubt terrible repercussions won't happen to us as a result of a trump presidency. Because despite whatever minimal evidence you can muster, you can't dismiss these legitimate fears. And I have to ask, under a majority conservative republican rule in this country, will LGBT and minority rights remain completely unaffected? it would be more than a bit optimistic to hope so. I'd have to be a utopianist to think so. 

 

 

I absolutely must ask anyone to present to me how and why a trump presidency won't disregard and upturn LGBT rights altogether. The problem is, you can't. All you can do is say, "well, it'll probably be fine" great. That does so much for countless people who have fought tooth and nail to bring progressive reform to this country. That isn't nearly good enough. Now trump winning may be a good thing for affluent, white straight male 50+ americans and supporters outside this country under different legal conditions, what does that do for people like us? great, we have this guy backed by mike pence and the republican party. What a bright, optimistic future for this country. Some of you take this with a grain of salt, but it means the world to so many. You can hate me, you can disagree with me, but what are you going to do about this nation's future? nothing. You've already decided it. And if you screw over millions, that's on you. I hope for everyone's sake I'm wrong about him. But if and until it's proven otherwise, that's not on me. There's no way to ensure this total clown won't fuck over this country. How is anyone meant to feel secure about him? you wave your trump banners and bow down in reverence to him but that doesn't relieve our fears about an incompetent businessman with multiple bankruptcies backed by a hypocritical religious extremist party of old rich white men pushing their far-right ideals to the rest of a nation of growing factions not appealed to by him. 

 

You can say, "trump said this" and "trump said that" is that actually backed by his actions? no, it isn't. To many people, he's as untrustworthy or even more so than hillary clinton. So you shouldn't go around gloating about the great victory of our lord and savior donald trump. It's quite the opposite to countless people who you're in everyday contact with. I don't advocate hillary clinton as the solution, but to celebrate trump's victory seems entirely inappropriate and insensitive. Because believe it or not, he's not a good guy and he's not a good candidate. And nobody with half a brain is going to "get stumped" by him.

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UGGHHHH, he's going to make a mess of the entire world. All my friends are upset and worried about Trump as President and it makes me sick to my stomach. Sweden, Finland and basically all Nordic countries worry and we're all upset about the president America chose. TERRIBLE CHOICE. Neither of these candidates were good but at least Clinton wasn't as bad as Trump will be in the White House. Pleeeease Obama come back, don't vanish like the Avatar when the world needs you.

I'm sincerely disappointed, I feared for this to happen and now more than half the people of the U.S have shown the world how dumb they are to let Trump win this election. I hope ya'll are happy about what this idiot has planned for us in the future. I ain't happy.... Everyone here fears for a third world war and their rights taken away once again. I'm sad to see all the people around me worried because of this dumbnut. I'm SO ANGRY. Taking a step back.

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Sweden, Finland and basically all Nordic countries worry and we're all upset about the president America chose.

Not me though. I am from Norway and i am super happy that Trump won!

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I only cared about the election, not because the two candidates were good... Hell no they were all fucking garbage. I wanted Trump to lose only because I was hoping Americans would move past their sexist and racist nature, guess I was wrong. I honestly thought Hillary was gonna get a rigged election and it was basically gonna be the year 2000 all over again, were Gore got cheated out of the white house. Trump was the safer route... White supremacists are not gonna riot and cause a scene, which benefits private bankers and the real people in control. 

 

I really feel bad for the women of this country too, same applies to minorities. This election proved the United States is the Roman Empire revived. People just living their lives as if nothing was sacred. There is currently a dangerous pipeline in North Dakota to be built and Trump could give a shit less since not only does he have investment in the  pipeline, alternative energy is not his interest since he stated he was all for fracking because it "would create jobs(the popular abstract phrase to get people happy)"

 

So if you're a female... I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton would have made an awful first woman president and it would have made the ladies looked bad. At least you women who voted against Trump, get to see America plunge. I mean hey you're not gonna be responsible for the collapse of the western world, take some pride in that ladies. 

 

I voted for Jill Stein, hell I didn't even want to vote. I only voted because third party voters have gotten record numbers for the first time in the US. All the Green Party needs is the 5% number to get over $10 million in campaign funds for 2020. Jill is amazing and a real candidate too. She talked about bailing out the national student loan debt, she was against big oil and for alternative energy, she said people have the right to question vaccines and the right to alternative health care. Jill just didn't speak fancy words and word porn to imbeciles. She actually described in a logical manner on how to possibly fix the problems we're facing in the US.

 

I hate this world, everything is so fake. And yes, if Clinton won, I would be pissed too. But again... I'm upset at the attitude of the US citizens.

 

Well as Agent Smith(Hugo Weaving) simply and wonderfully put it. "Like the Dinosaur.... Look out that window, you had your time."

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Not me though. I am from Norway and i am super happy that Trump won!

I'm sorry, but then you are one of the very few so far. Everyone hates Trump here and fears for our future. I hate seeing my friends this upset and I ain't taking this lightly at all. People of color, immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, women and good people in general will get to go through hell AGAIN because of this man, who's not even worthy of being called just that. He's not a politician to begin with and he does not belong in the White House. I won't take this. Sadly, there is not much we can do about this except for watching it all fall apart.

Not okay.

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*waves at US* welcome to the political sh**fest. We're still raging about Brexit here in the UK and how stupid it was and even our government is saying how stupid of an idea it was. 

 

But discussing with my Dad this morning (this is a very British view btw) we reckon you guys may have been worse with Hilary in terms of international relations and teetering on the brink of WW3. the woman is nuts and cant get on with anyone. Dont think our PM Teresa May would get on with her at all, but at least with Trump she can out think him and just shake her head at the stupid suggestions of his. 

 

I'm hoping Trump is all talk and no action. I just compare him to Homer Simpson when it comes to averting a meltdown. Hes the one making the call in a difficult situation that could destroy us all, but he ends up picking a harmless resolve due to not knowing how to politics. 

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I'm sorry, but then you are one of the very few so far. Everyone hates Trump here and fears for our future. I hate seeing my friends this upset and I ain't taking this lightly at all. People of color, immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, women and good people in general will get to go through hell AGAIN because of this man, who's not even worthy of being called just that. He's not a politician to begin with and he does not belong in the White House. I won't take this. Sadly, there is not much we can do about this except for watching it all fall apart.

Not okay.

Well i am not going to respond to the other stuff, but there should exist conservative LGBT group like Milo Yiannopoulos. But generally its just because of religion i think or theocracy. Which is good to be against. So you are honestly just fighting for theocrats to limit lgbt in general. Do something sensical and be against evil, which is why we need to make this happen. Make the world great

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OHand let me not mention what he's got planned to save our environment and how he's going to handle the greenhouse effect, because you see.... He's not going to lift a finger to do ANYTHING about it at all. Bye world.

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OH and let me not mention what he's gor planned to save our environment and how he's going to handle the greenhouse effect, because you see.... He's not going to lift a finger to do ANYTHING about it at all. Bye world.

He's gonna be Bush for another 4 years. Nothing changed with Obama either. More wars, more civilian bombings, holy shit bitcoin might become an actual currency faster now that the dollar is not gonna see any revival.

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He's gonna be Bush for another 4 years. Nothing changed with Obama either. More wars, more civilian bombings, holy shit bitcoin might become an actual currency faster now that the dollar is not gonna see any revival.

Nothing changed with Obama either, no. But at least he was the best president since.... Ever. And at least he was a good person with great opinions compared to Trump. Trump is also a big liar and I can't believe how people can believe in what he says.Make America great again, more like... Make America more crappy than it was already.

I totally see your point though, so yes, agreed.

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He's gonna be Bush for another 4 years. Nothing changed with Obama either. More wars, more civilian bombings, holy shit bitcoin might become an actual currency faster now that the dollar is not gonna see any revival.

The only difference is he will be making it glorious!

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Nothing changed with Obama either, no. But at least he was the best president since

Lol, best cynical loser at best. This guy didnt really leave Iraq the best way leading the Iraqi military to give up, and from that ISIS was created. Oh yes what a terrific president.

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