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There had to be a significant amount of time before the first movie, for SS to have read up on and practiced human coupling traditions, to put herself into a relationship with one, and we know that for a unicorn turned human, who more than likely was taught how to play guitar from FS, they were dating for quite some time. So, while I know waifu lovers hate to think about it, and I, myself, cringe a bit when nagging thoughts of this bubbles to the surface, but....do you guys think SS and FS have held hands, kissed, cuddled, groped, or other things while they were dating? Would SS have milked the girlfriend act on the path to popularity, or would any coupley/boyfriend girlfriend activities gave been off limits to a pony who was trying to fit in with humans?

Personally, perhaps in part to the nature of the MLP brand, I can't imagine them doing much more than cuddling and kissing while they were dating. Any further, and I could probably never look at Shimmy the same way again....

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Due to the nature of the series, the most they'd ever tell us about would be things like kissing and cuddling, so that's the most we'll ever hear about.

 

 In terms of what realistically might have happened though...Well, you could take it a few different ways. As she said, she never really liked Flash, so she might not have wanted to do that with him. But, going further with him could be useful for emotional manipulation, which is an advantage Evil Sunset might have wanted. Also, she's in the body of a teenager, and that might come with all the hormones and urges that come with it, so if she found Flash attractive at least physically...

 

 You could go either way with it honestly. It doesn't really make me look at Sunset any differently if she did, what she does with her body is her business, and who she shares it with is her business. If she's used sex just to emotionally manipulate someone...Well, that's not really any worse than turning into a demon and enslaving a school, which we know for a fact she's done, so that doesn't change my thoughts on her either.

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 You could go either way with it honestly. It doesn't really make me look at Sunset any differently if she did, what she does with her body is her business, and who she shares it with is her business. If she's used sex just to emotionally manipulate someone...Well, that's not really any worse than turning into a demon and enslaving a school, which we know for a fact she's done, so that doesn't change my thoughts on her either.

....good point. Touchè

There's just something taboo about a pony mating with a human (yeah, I know beastiality exists in our world), but still...though, you are right about evil Shim probably not past going that far to emotionally MF Flash...and dem teenage hormones....

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If we go with how AC Racebest and his friends on Bronies React interpreted it, then they totally fucked, then Flash met Twi, they did their thing, and now the new Twilight doesn't know him so it's just all super awkward for Flash Sentry the waifu stealer.

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There's just something taboo about a pony mating with a human (yeah, I know beastiality exists in our world)
 

 

On the point of the whole human/pony thing, it's not really comparable to bestiality. The Equestrian ponies are of a comparable level of intelligence to us humans, unlike real horses in our world. Just because they naturally look somewhat like the ponies/horses of our world doesn't make them the same thing.

 

 Plus, Twilight also later shows attraction to Flash, getting a crush on him. So, either the transformation to human naturally makes them attracted to other humans...or Ponies are already capable of that on their own, which isn't far-fetched considering that multiple intelligent species exist in their world, and Spike has a crush on Rarity. Interspecies relationships in the MLP world are probably a thing, and with how ponies are, it's potentially accepted as normal.

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It was probably a one-sided relationship with Flash being the more serious about it. He genuinely loved Sunset despite her not always being the easiest to get along with, and in turn she only used him in a bid to become more popular so that she could rule the school for as long as necessary. As we now know, Sunset regrets the way she treated Flash although deep down she might still actually care about him, but may be too afraid to admit it in case he no longer feels the same way.

 

Unfortunately, we may never find out what their past relationship was really like as it would go into territory that might go against the age demographic of the show. Various fanfictions have attempted to provide an answer yet each of them have their own take that may or may not be accurate.

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There's just something taboo about a pony mating with a human (yeah, I know beastiality exists in our world),

 

 

On the point of the whole human/pony thing, it's not really comparable to bestiality. The Equestrian ponies are of a comparable level of intelligence to us humans, unlike real horses in our world. Just because they naturally look somewhat like the ponies/horses of our world doesn't make them the same thing.

What said, all day long.  (And what I've been saying since I first interacted with the fandom.)  If you truly regard Equestrian mares as "animals" (and comparable to this-Earth equines), it's a wonder that you don't regard human women the same way.

 

Equestrian mares are far more comparable to human women than they are to any species of Earth equine.  They have a spoken language (languages, really), a form of government, an understanding of science and mathematics, employment / a work force, a form of currency...  The ONE thing that undeniably differentiates Equestrian mares from human women (and that people seem to get hung up on) is their body shape.

 

This brings up all manner of questions.  If an originally-human woman transformed into a pony (who can do just about everything she could in her initial form), is she suddenly an animal?  And while @Nightmare Muffin seems to think that a human being intimate with a human is ALSO somehow bestiality, the human-form Sunset Shimmer is directly comparable - both in terms of intelligence and physical appearance - to any of the originally-human members of the main cast.  If you're still throwing around the B-word at this point, it could only be because you have some deep-seated moral qualms and / or personal prejudices that you're simply unable - or unwilling - to look past.

 

Logically, there's no good reason to label an Equestrian mare an "animal."  If you honestly can't tell the difference between a house cat and a species of talking equine with their own civilization, culture, and intelligence and capabilities on a par with humans, you've got a problem for which there may be no solution.

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I do not think they that close. Holding hands, hugging, maybe they kissed at best, but nothing more.

Since Sunset was only using Flash due to popularity, I think she was only close to him during school time. In her free time and especially at the end of their relationship, she pretended often to be busy, so that she did not need to spent more time with him than necessary.

I also do not think that it was a long relationship. Maybe 2 or 3 months.

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They probably were not very close.

 

After all, Sunset herself admitted that she was just using him to become more popular.

She regrets it, but little development has taken place between the two since then.

 

 

 

 

 

That being said, not trying to be mean or anything,.........but WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT FLASH?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On the point of the whole human/pony thing, it's not really comparable to bestiality. The Equestrian ponies are of a comparable level of intelligence to us humans, unlike real horses in our world. Just because they naturally look somewhat like the ponies/horses of our world doesn't make them the same thing.

 

 Plus, Twilight also later shows attraction to Flash, getting a crush on him. So, either the transformation to human naturally makes them attracted to other humans...or Ponies are already capable of that on their own, which isn't far-fetched considering that multiple intelligent species exist in their world, and Spike has a crush on Rarity. Interspecies relationships in the MLP world are probably a thing, and with how ponies are, it's potentially accepted as normal.

 

Not to mention Flashy still has no problems having feeling with two girls he knows they are born horses :dash:

 

It's obvious the movies themselves won't go too deep in romantic relationships. Though just looking back at how Sunny used to be the bee queen, I wouldn't hesitate in the chance that, despite not being true love nor even affection, that Sunny and Flash went quickly to "tier 15"..... cookie if you know what I mean ;)

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There had to be a significant amount of time before the first movie, for SS to have read up on and practiced human coupling traditions, to put herself into a relationship with one, and we know that for a unicorn turned human, who more than likely was taught how to play guitar from FS, they were dating for quite some time. So, while I know waifu lovers hate to think about it, and I, myself, cringe a bit when nagging thoughts of this bubbles to the surface, but....do you guys think SS and FS have held hands, kissed, cuddled, groped, or other things while they were dating? Would SS have milked the girlfriend act on the path to popularity, or would any coupley/boyfriend girlfriend activities gave been off limits to a pony who was trying to fit in with humans?

Personally, perhaps in part to the nature of the MLP brand, I can't imagine them doing much more than cuddling and kissing while they were dating. Any further, and I could probably never look at Shimmy the same way again....

I personally think they might've gotten pretty close and the break up and actually did have an emotional impact on the both of them. It's openly stated that Sunset it hadn't done anything to seek vengeance on Flash the first movie, maybe there was a bit of a lingering guilt that preventing her from doing so?

 

Not to mention the fact that when she says she was only using him she seemed little uncertain… Either she was ashamed that she did or regret that she never took the relationship seriously…

 

Then there is the fourth movie which shows her actually comforting him over his issues of there being two versions of Twilight, granted she took the Toughlove approach that she did show some concern for how he felt. not to mention she was willing to confide in him over her conflict with feelings towards Timber, showing that she at least trusts him enough to share that kind of info. Plus Flash himself states that she can tell when something is bothering her, so it's easy to say that they were close enough to be able to "read" each other during their relationship.

 

That being said, not trying to be mean or anything,.........but WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT FLASH?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'd be surprised:

https://mlpforums.com/topic/160924-interesting-flash-facts-and-rants-on-flash-hate/

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It was probably a one-sided relationship with Flash being the more serious about it. He genuinely loved Sunset despite her not always being the easiest to get along with, and in turn she only used him in a bid to become more popular so that she could rule the school for as long as necessary. As we now know, Sunset regrets the way she treated Flash although deep down she might still actually care about him, but may be too afraid to admit it in case he no longer feels the same way.

 

Unfortunately, we may never find out what their past relationship was really like as it would go into territory that might go against the age demographic of the show. Various fanfictions have attempted to provide an answer yet each of them have their own take that may or may not be accurate.

 

I agree we won't find out much, if not a few bones tossed to us if they continue that horrifically awkward hit Flash tried.

 

I envision she kept him like a trophy husband really, not entirely interested, but he was there when the urge hit, so I think he was guilty of being aware he was being used as well. A very unhealthy relationship.

 

Though I have had interesting thoughts on how she became so popular in the first year, but thatch neither here no there. :)  Come on, she was a villain. Villains are generally morally flexible :P

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I think that she just tried to date one of the most popular boys to get more popular. I mean, she was pretty evil during that time and even destroyed the friendship of the mane 6 (without human Twilight) for no reason. They most likely never had been a thread to Sunset before pony Twilight appeared

Back to the question: Maybe a few kissed and hugs but nothing more. It would be a big surprise if she actually loved him during this time. However, now she might fall in love with him.....butthat would lead to a new thread

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Then there is the fourth movie which shows her actually comforting him over his issues of there being two versions of Twilight

Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats the only time they canonic speak to each other is it not?

 

anyway I don't think they went full Swiggity Swooty, mostly because Sunset used to be a horse, hormones or not she need to acquire a taste in naked monkeys before considering anything. (actually naked naked monkeys).

 

In the other hand, if mating preferences is inverted (from pony/human human/pony) when you pass by the mirror, then they definitely smashed, that just a thing teenagers do.

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