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#1 AlicornSpell

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:56 AM

I wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic dealt with very dark and mature themes like death and other problems that go on in people's lives. There's a lot of kid shows that dealt with very dark and mature themes like "Courage the Cowardly dog" for an example; the show dealt with domestic violence in the episode "The Mask". So if Courage the Cowardly Dog and other kid shows can deal with very dark and mature themes like that, then why can't My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic deal with very dark and mature themes like that?

 

I also wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic had way more darker villains that did much more more darker evil things (like murder) than the ones that the series had. I do like most of the villains in the series, but I wish there was a villain in the series that actually murder someone or do something very evil that can't be undone. Most of the evil stuff that the villains did in the series did were undone by the heroes.

 

And I also wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic had very complicated storylines in the series that are as complicated as the storylines from the "Kingdom Hearts" video games series. The storylines in the Kingdom Hearts series are very complicated, and that video game series is for kids; so why can't My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic have a very complicated storyline in it?

 

 




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#2 TheAnimatorOfficial

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:53 AM

Maybe we'll get this in the movie or a future MLP series but right now I doubt FIM would get too dark.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:22 AM

I wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic dealt with very dark and mature themes like death and other problems that go on in people's lives. There's a lot of kid shows that dealt with very dark and mature themes like "Courage the Cowardly dog" for an example; the show dealt with domestic violence in the episode "The Mask". So if Courage the Cowardly Dog and other kid shows can deal with very dark and mature themes like that, then why can't My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic deal with very dark and mature themes like that?

 

I also wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic had way more darker villains that did much more more darker evil things (like murder) than the ones that the series had. I do like most of the villains in the series, but I wish there was a villain in the series that actually murder someone or do something very evil that can't be undone. Most of the evil stuff that the villains did in the series did were undone by the heroes.

 

And I also wish My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic had very complicated storylines in the series that are as complicated as the storylines from the "Kingdom Hearts" video games series. The storylines in the Kingdom Hearts series are very complicated, and that video game series is for kids; so why can't My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic have a very complicated storyline in it?

 

Well, you can't really compare a 20-minute TV-Show in its usual episodic format to a full blown videogame with a very complex storyline. Some modern TV-shows can manage this sort of thing because the episodes are twice as long (or more) and they are mostly intended to be watched online in bulks.

 

Shows for kids are even more restricted and MLP did a overarching plot going on in the background for each season. They simply have to work within their limits. You have to keep in mind that there are many TV-stations who only buy the show because of the 20-minute format and often they don't buy the broadcast rights for all seasons. Then the episodes are often aired in another episode-order than the original one. Even double-episodes are problematic and mostly only occur at the beginning or the end of a season.

 

Regarding mature themes:

 

- Hasbro wants to sell colorful toys to little kids.

- The tone of the show is bright and positive, arching from the soundtrack, the artstyle, the voice-acting, the themes, etc.

Take your example regarding "Courage the cowardly dog". The artstyle and tone is a lot darker and more gritty, darker themes are hinted at throughout the entire series and the target audience is a different one.

- if the show would aim to change towards much more darker and mature themes, everything would have to develop in that direction. Character design, background art, sound design, voice acting, the color palette used, etc.. In other words. MLP FiM would change so much that it wouldn't be MLP FiM anymore.

 

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A 20-minute bright and happy cartoon aimed at kids with the intention to promote toys for young boys and girls (mostly girls) simply has its limitations and boundaries. If they are overstepped too much, it's not that cartoon anymore.

 

Sorry.. you're mostly asking for an apple to taste more like a blueberry. If it does... it has become a blueberry and ceased to be an apple.


Edited by Konsumo, 16 February 2017 - 05:26 AM.


#4 Kyoshi

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:37 AM

You are basically saying that the show should abandon one of the things that makes it wonderful. FiM is a family show, lighthearted, cheerful, but not to the point of treating the viewers like idiots. It promotes positive messages while delivering those messages in mostly clever ways. By the end of each episode it wants to make you feel positive and it certainly does that for me. To introduce concepts like murder would be a detriment to the positive atmosphere the show tries to create.

 

Comparing it to Courage the Cowardly Dog isn't a proper connection. Courage doesn't have the over-arching positive atmosphere that FiM does, it aims for something different and that's fine. Asking one to be like the other would abandon a huge part to why people love that show in the first place. I say keep the overly dark stuff away from FiM. If I want that, I will go watch Attack On Titan.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:45 AM

The success of FiM lies in it's lightheartedness and simple storylines. Yeah, alot of cartoons seem to deal with dark tones, so why make FiM like every other show, instead of making it different?

 

Alot of people these days seem to think that a darker storyline equals better writing, eventhough dark storylines have become very cliches over the past few years, so i am glad that FiM has it's lighthearted elements, which makes it fun for everyone.

 

In short, no. It should stay how it is.



#6 Rikifive

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:56 AM

Nope, nope, nope and nope, that's not what I'd like to see. Besides, it is darker than you may think it is. FiM is just showing these themes in a brighter way. If you'll look closely, then you'll notice, that it touches many mature themes and problems of our world.

 

I love the way the stories are written and shown. I love how FiM brings some colors to us. I love how their world is kept in harmony. I love ponies um wait, that wasn't needed.  :adorkable:

Sure it would be cool and nice to see some dramatic action and all that stuff, but I enjoy seeing how perfect our world could be, but it isn't.

 

Complicated storylines like in Kingdom Hearts? That gets a 'No' with the text size set to 48 from me. That's why I disliked these games. The general idea seemed to be simple enough, thus enjoyable, but no... Square Enix had to put their totally out of place characters and go extremely offtopic with everything. The storyline was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay much more complicated, than it needed to be. The first game on PS2 was good enough, but then... it became something totally different.

very complicated, and that video game series is for kids

And that's kinda a contradiction by itself.  :twi:

Very complicated for kids? Genius!  :love:  Just kidding!  :lol:

 

Anyway, even as an adult I couldn't enjoy the storyline, because it got unnecessarily too complex.

 

 

But still, it all depends on personal preferences, so I know what you mean. I like dark themes like death, becoming alone when they're executed well in games, for example. Basically I like touching stories and FiM has many of them already.

So, as for me: 

It should stay how it is.

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Seeing some colors is a nice touch for our not so colorful real life. I don't want MLP to change.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:14 AM

Because a Sauron-like Unicorn/Umbrum, a Cell-like Centaur, and multiple apocalyptic timelines just aren't dark enough?



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:17 AM

Because a Sauron-like Unicorn/Umbrum, a Cell-like Centaur, and multiple apocalyptic timelines just aren't dark enough?

 

I would say exactly this, and that any darker and that should be left to a fan-made source (fanfiction, art, animations, etc).



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:20 AM

I don't see why the show needs to become a lot darker. I would only really like to see it upgrade from a TV Y rating to a TV Y7 rating, so that we could finally deal with acknowledgement of whether or not Scootaloo is a cripple, and focus on Applejack's parents.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:45 AM

Nope, nope, nope and nope, that's not what I'd like to see. Besides, it is darker than you may think it is. FiM is just showing these themes in a brighter way. If you'll look closely, then you'll notice, that it touches many mature themes and problems of our world.

 

I love the way the stories are written and shown. I love how FiM brings some colors to us. I love how their world is kept in harmony. I love ponies um wait, that wasn't needed.  :adorkable:

Sure it would be cool and nice to see some dramatic action and all that stuff, but I enjoy seeing how perfect our world could be, but it isn't.

 

Complicated storylines like in Kingdom Hearts? That gets a 'No' with the text size set to 48 from me. That's why I disliked these games. The general idea seemed to be simple enough, thus enjoyable, but no... Square Enix had to put their totally out of place characters and go extremely offtopic with everything. The storyline was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay much more complicated, than it needed to be. The first game on PS2 was good enough, but then... it became something totally different.

 

 

And that's kinda a contradiction by itself.  :twi:

Very complicated for kids? Genius!  :love:  Just kidding!  :lol:

 

Anyway, even as an adult I couldn't enjoy the storyline, because it got unnecessarily too complex.

 

 

But still, it all depends on personal preferences, so I know what you mean. I like dark themes like death, becoming alone when they're executed well in games, for example. Basically I like touching stories and FiM has many of them already.

So, as for me: 

 

^

 

Seeing some colors is a nice touch for our not so colorful real life. I don't want MLP to change.

 

Then what are some of the themes that My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic deals that are considered very dark and mature? Most of the themes that the show deals with don't seem that dark and mature to me.


Because a Sauron-like Unicorn/Umbrum, a Cell-like Centaur, and multiple apocalyptic timelines just aren't dark enough?

 

While I agree that that stuff are somewhat dark, I still feel like the show would be better if it dealt with much more darker and more mature themes. Also as I said, I wish the show would have much more darker villains who do much more darker evil stuff than the villains shown in Friendship Is Magic. Like I wish Friendship Is Magic had a villain as dark as The Lich from "Adventure Time".



#11 Olsen1987

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:45 AM

yes, it could be done, want it myself for some reason.
but of course not everything, a few episodes within a season (like 4-5 out of 26) really shouldn't do much damage to their toy sales, if any at all.
but since we already had kinda dark episodes already, i'd say it's already there, but it's been kinda slacking lately.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:52 AM

I would not want a dark MLP:FiM 

 

I am very happy with how the show is right now. After having watched dark edgy cartoons like Teen Titans, it was nice to watch something else for a change that was My Little Pony. The shows are not overly complicated, smart designed little stories and characters, sweet and definitely not dark. We have had dark as in Sombra, Chrysalis and Tirek. I would not want the show any darker than that. I have seen enough of murders in other shows. I am completely fine with not having that in FiM. 

 

Why change the show that drew us to it and made us fans in the first place? If you are a fan of FiM and have loved it, why change it to something it is not? 

 

The success of FiM lies in it's lightheartedness and simple storylines
 

This is what drew me to the show and I would not want it to change. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:55 AM

Another one of these threads? -Dies inside-   :mellow:

 

I am not going into great detail because this sums it up: You want a show, aimed at (no matter what bronies say) YOUNG CHILDREN to be way darker? Do you not have any idea how TV guidelines work and the rules and regulations they have to follow to be able to air at children? Believe it or not the show is not made for or intended to be viewed by us, the adults.  :scots:



#14 snowflame

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:34 AM

The show does not need to be much darker. However not being afraid to address death would be nice. Sombra should have been mentioned to have died and some episode about Apple parents deaths should be there for example. But it's not a big deal.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:35 AM

No, there are enough dark shows on TV as it is, both for kids and adults, MLP is bright and happy and that's part of why I love it, I think it's just fine as it is. What purpose would making it darker serve? More teen/adult fans? The show has plenty of appeal to older viewers as it is, if you hadn't noticed the huge fanbase.

 

Also, comparing it to Courage...I love Courage too, one of my favorite shows as a kid, but it's a totally different show than MLP, it had a higher age rating too.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:49 AM

MLPFIM is a children's show and it always will be. I myself, wish for murderous villains, cause they're always the most interesting. But, Tirek/Sombra is as dark as this show will ever get. 

 

Luckily, that's what fanfiction is for.



#17 Zachary

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:02 AM

Nope Nope, I don't want this Show to be more Darker.



#18 Slug Village

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:24 AM

Ow, the edge!

 

MLP:FIM is a show for little girls.  Let me say that again:  "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" is a show for little girls.


Edited by Slug Village, 16 February 2017 - 09:33 AM.


#19 Lil Pip

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:26 AM

Different demographics do require different depths of maturity. The parents who want to isolate their children and pretend the world is a happy place so the kids are more well behaved, fit in line more with the mlp demographic. Not that it matters, because of the internet. And its what makes this show unique in a way, but it would definitely appeal to more people if they upped the maturity a bit. Just then they'd sell less toys to little girls from their parents. Some little girls are too little to really get the darker stuff without getting scared anyways, reality would come crashing in then they'd cry then bad show then lets not get her those toys cuz the show spoiled it for her.

 

Or thats just what Hasbro thinks. Besides, guys already buy alot of the merch too, if it was more mature it'd just help that along more. But maybe the toys are too risky to demographic swap currently, then hire new artists etc, new demographic analysts. Its far easier to not change, when you have something good working out for you in business.  

 

Wait til the show plummets in viewership, in 5-10 years maybe. When they can't sustain their production quantities, then panic into trying something new. If that even happens.


Edited by Lil Pip, 16 February 2017 - 09:26 AM.


#20 Violet_S

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:32 AM

nah I dont think the show should be darker... It would be nice to see something different but I dont think it should be something dark-ish 







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