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It's no secret that Starlight is a novice to friendship. It's obvious that she wants to learn more about it, and try to get more experienced, but does she actually want to put effort into making friends? I feel like she made friends with Trixie purely on providence, and discovered they had enough in common that they clicked as friends. With Sunburst, she had a pre-existing friendship; all that needed to be done was to reconnect, and even that was like pulling teeth for awhile.

 

With the mane six, I think Twilight really wants her to be friends with her friends, but that isn't want Starlight wants. I may be reaching, but that's what I've observed. I feel like she's the kind of pony who can't be pushed into a friendship by another pony. It needs to be more natural; I know there's still a lot of development ahead of Starlight and her connection with Twi's friends, but right now things are SO awkward between them. I love Starlight to death, but she is like a seventh wheel. I wouldn't mind if the show-writers gave her her own friends! Trixie and Sunburst mesh much better as her friends. Let's get her more like them! She doesn't have to be besties with the other five of the mane ponies, in my opinion. I love their characters, but not with Starlight. 

 

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This is my biggest problem with her, the show wants us to assume that they're best friends, but we never see it outside of a few bullshit montages. The show constantly props her up as a main character due to giving her all the important episodes like finales and premieres, but when it comes to the meat, the 22 other episodes in between, she does fuck all unless the episode is specifically made for her, and even then, she spends most of her time with Twilight and none of the remane 5. We never see her regularly hang with the mane 6, she's never their for big events, nor do we see any effort on an attempt to hang out with them, even though the writers were given plenty of chances. Yet they expect us to believe she's Queen Shit and they're great friends

 

Sunset has a similar problem where we see her mostly developing a relationship with Twilight, but at the very least she still feels like she's friends with the remane 5, and regularly hangs out with them

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well i think twilights forcing her to be friends with her friends twilight has that you must fit in with my group mentallity

or is extremely jealous but it also has to do with glimmer adjusting to the concept of friendship

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This is my biggest problem with her, the show wants us to assume that they're best friends, but we never see it outside of a few bullshit montages. The show constantly props her up as a main character due to giving her all the important episodes like finales and premieres, but when it comes to the meat, the 22 other episodes in between, she does fuck all unless the episode is specifically made for her, and even then, she spends most of her time with Twilight and none of the remane 5. We never see her regularly hang with the mane 6, she's never their for big events even though the writers were given plenty of chances. Yet they expect us to believe she's Queen Shit and they're great friends

 

Sunset has a similar problem where we see her mostly developing a relationship with Twilight, but at the very least she still feels like she's friends with the remane 5, and regularly hangs out with them

I don't think the show wants us to think they are best friends, just friends. We usually seen the mane 6 together but they would have other friends too (well Twilight and Fluttershy not as much but some anyway). They can hang around as friends but not be super close.

 

I feel Sunset is more of a issue since they are meant to be the best friends. But there was some nice montages after Rainbow Rocks with Shine Like Rainbows and Friendship Through the Ages and some nice moments in the other two films so I am pretty fine with it. And maybe the new format this year will give the characters more time to just spend with each other.

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The conflicted rational hinders the integration of her personal aspects.

Starlight experiences conflict integrating with herself, more than anypony else. Most likely due to traumatic experience.

This makes it difficult to relate to others, unless sharing similar experiences. Which is why the answer is Trixie.

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That's definitely one of the biggest problems with Starlight's reformation.

The show tells us that they are supposed to be friends, but the only times we see them doing things together would be during brief montages.

It's been an entire season of her being reformed, and yet her "friendship" with the rest of the mane six outside of Twilight, still doesn't feel believable.

That's something that needs to be fixed in season 7.

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Yeah, I can see that too in some way. I mean yeah, Starlight likes the Mane Six, and they're her friends to a respect! But she doesn't seem too flipped over them. She seems to get along more with just Twilight, Spike, Trixie, and Sunburst! But maybe season 7 might tell us otherwise! Perhaps get an answer on who is considered Starlight's "best friend", Trixie or Sunburst.

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I don't think that's true at all. If it were, Starlight would probably have destroyed the time scroll and made it permanent that Rainbow Dash never won the race all those years ago.

 

She's not the same Pony she was when she left that village or desired to screw up history.

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I don't think that's true at all. If it were, Starlight would probably have destroyed the time scroll and made it permanent that Rainbow Dash never won the race all those years ago.

 

She's not the same Pony she was when she left that village or desired to screw up history.

she sure isn't. Instead of brainwashing now, she straight up mind controls!

Brand new pony, ladies and gents!

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It's no secret that Starlight is a novice to friendship. It's obvious that she wants to learn more about it, and try to get more experienced, but does she actually want to put effort into making friends? I feel like she made friends with Trixie purely on providence, and discovered they had enough in common that they clicked as friends. With Sunburst, she had a pre-existing friendship; all that needed to be done was to reconnect, and even that was like pulling teeth for awhile.

 

With the mane six, I think Twilight really wants her to be friends with her friends, but that isn't want Starlight wants. I may be reaching, but that's what I've observed. I feel like she's the kind of pony who can't be pushed into a friendship by another pony. It needs to be more natural; I know there's still a lot of development ahead of Starlight and her connection with Twi's friends, but right now things are SO awkward between them. I love Starlight to death, but she is like a seventh wheel. I wouldn't mind if the show-writers gave her her own friends! Trixie and Sunburst mesh much better as her friends. Let's get her more like them! She doesn't have to be besties with the other five of the mane ponies, in my opinion. I love their characters, but not with Starlight. 

 

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I'd say she bonded with both Twilight and Spike. And she's definitely spent the most time with them. But yeah I'd agree about the others.
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she sure isn't. Instead of brainwashing now, she straight up mind controls!

Brand new pony, ladies and gents!

She already learned pretty quickly that was a bad idea. I can't see her ever doing that again.
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she sure isn't. Instead of brainwashing now, she straight up mind controls!

Brand new pony, ladies and gents!

but... she learned her lesson right afterwards. :wat:
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I think the issue she has with the mane 6 is guilt, lot's of it. She apparently spent many, many years completely hating the mane 6, Twilight especially, and then proceeds to do the whole imprisoning thing...Yeah, she probably just feels awkward because of her guilt, which results in a difficulty in connection. The other characters she has befriended, like Sunburst and Trixie, she has no guilt towards those characters to meddle with their connection. She doesn't have that mental block.

 

I am sure she wants to be great friends with the mane 6, it is just a struggle to get past those pesky mental barriers. Which, I actually like that. It shows that she simply hasn't forgotten what she did and she can eventually come to terms with that after struggling with it.

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Actually, the whole "befriend with the mane 5" is just a friendship study, like Twilight in the beginning of the show but less effort to make friend with them, Twilight is the only one who reformed her in the S5 finale, the other Mane 5 are just "friends of my friends", that all. I like Starlight character more than Sunset because of how similar she is to me but the whole "Mane 7" isnt working, they are Twilight's friends, not her.

 

Starlight can be friend with:

Twilight (her savior, and share common interests)

Trixie (the 1st friend who share common problems, and a crazy friend who willing to sacrifite for her)

Spike (He was a loser, too, they may relate in something)

Discord (They were both villain, manipulators, reckless magic users... )

CHRYSALIS. Yes, even Chrysalis can be friend with Starlight due to how similar they are, of course, if she is reformed.

 

But not any of mane 5, why!? Because she is just like me, like to befriend with someone who share my common interests, who i can relate to. Starlight cant be friends with anyone who doesnt share any of her interests, who she cant relate to, who she cant feel comfortable to talk with, like me. 

 

If Starlight can gain 60+ "like" bar with every potential friends i listed above, best character ever. 

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I'd like to think that the ponies from the village that she "ruled" over have since become her friends given that they did forgive her for what she put them though to satisfy her own agenda. While Starlight hasn't visited them all that much due to having doubts over whether she could be a good leader, I think she will try to see them more often now that she has a clear understanding of what it means to step up and do what she can without losing her cool. With regards to the other Mane Six, Starlight could eventually become friends with them--she already has the foundations in place--but she needs more time to understand their way of thinking.

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Actually, the whole "befriend with the mane 5" is just a friendship study, like Twilight in the beginning of the show but less effort to make friend with them, Twilight is the only one who reformed her in the S5 finale, the other Mane 5 are just "friends of my friends", that all. I like Starlight character more than Sunset because of how similar she is to me but the whole "Mane 7" isnt working, they are Twilight's friends, not her.

 

Starlight can be friend with:

Twilight (her savior, and share common interests)

Trixie (the 1st friend who share common problems, and a crazy friend who willing to sacrifite for her)

Spike (He was a loser, too, they may relate in something)

Discord (They were both villain, manipulators, reckless magic users... )

CHRYSALIS. Yes, even Chrysalis can be friend with Starlight due to how similar they are, of course, if she is reformed.

 

But not any of mane 5, why!? Because she is just like me, like to befriend with someone who share my common interests, who i can relate to. Starlight cant be friends with anyone who doesnt share any of her interests, who she cant relate to, who she cant feel comfortable to talk with, like me. 

 

If Starlight can gain 60+ "like" bar with every potential friends i listed above, best character ever. 

 

Exactly, I honestly prefer that approach than having her magically be best friends with each of the mane 5 for no reason, and Twilight is supposed to be teaching her how to make her own friends, not to force her to have the friends she chooses (we even had a whole episode about it). Her friendship with the mane 5 is mostly circumstantial, that doesn't mean she doesn't see them as real friends or doesn't value how much they've helped her, but the "real" friendships have to be made when she's not being mentored, the friendship lessons are mostly a preparation for that.

 

That being said, I do wish for her to bond more with one of the mane 5, I'm hoping it's either Rainbow Dash or Rarity.

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Exactly, I honestly prefer that approach than having her magically be best friends with each of the mane 5 for no reason, and Twilight is supposed to be teaching her how to make her own friends, not to force her to have the friends she chooses (we even had a whole episode about it). Her friendship with the mane 5 is mostly circumstantial, that doesn't mean she doesn't see them as real friends or doesn't value how much they've helped her, but the "real" friendships have to be made when she's not being mentored, the friendship lessons are mostly a preparation for that.

 

That being said, I do wish for her to bond more with one of the mane 5, I'm hoping it's either Rainbow Dash or Rarity.

I hope Starlight can be honest with Twilight about what you said. Not anyone can be friend with anyone.

 

Too bad, Starlight dont even know Wonderbolt, how could they find some common ground to begin with. According to Starlight terrible taste in fashion back to Cutie Map, Rarity will have lot of works to do, to improve that terrible fashion sense of Starligh xD.

 

It hard to make friends with someone doesnt have any common ground with you :/

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Starlight threads always bring the best of people in.

 

"Did you see that episode where she brain controlled the ponies, she is such a bad person!"

Right, Twilight is such a Saint though...ZERO LESSONS TO BE LEARNED.

 

People seem to think she should be caught up with Twilight by now, this is her first time really experiencing friendship. This was her season 1, and she did fairly decent at growth.

 

 

Sorry, got semi off track.

She isn't BEST friends with the mane6...shes friends with them, and that is shown well.

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I agree that they haven't really had Starlight build stronger relationships with the mane 5 and that the approach seemed more like friendship related studies to try and get Starlight to practice making friends.

 

Starlight's relations with Sunburst, Trixie and Spike though can be further explored, since they seem to have a much better base to them and seem more natural for her. Those might be the routes they could better take with Starlight, if they don't end up developing much more for her relationships with the mane 5.

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Well, I think there is a bit of friction between them. I mean, they all come from such different places, not to mention the mane six are practically all like royalty since they wielded the elements of harmony, saved Equestria like, a DOZEN times, and are best friends with a princess! So it might seem a bit daunting to Starlight to try and make friends with these huge figure heads so suddenly. And since Starlight is Twilight's pupil, I'm gonna assume that at some point in time, weather it be in season seven (or eight, maybe) or even in the next reboot of MLP, that Starlight will be the 'mane' focus and have her own group of friends. And there's a high probability that Discord, Trixie, Thorax, and Sunburst will be... well at least most of them, will be the mane characters. I'd like all of them, but you never know what Hasbro will do. So, those are my thoughts.

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This is my biggest problem with her, the show wants us to assume that they're best friends, but we never see it outside of a few bullshit montages. The show constantly props her up as a main character due to giving her all the important episodes like finales and premieres, but when it comes to the meat, the 22 other episodes in between, she does fuck all unless the episode is specifically made for her, and even then, she spends most of her time with Twilight and none of the remane 5. We never see her regularly hang with the mane 6, she's never their for big events, nor do we see any effort on an attempt to hang out with them, even though the writers were given plenty of chances. Yet they expect us to believe she's Queen Shit and they're great friends

 

Sunset has a similar problem where we see her mostly developing a relationship with Twilight, but at the very least she still feels like she's friends with the remane 5, and regularly hangs out with them

 

It helps that Sunset has a personality outside of just "MAGIC!". She at least has some things she can bond with the others over like liking to play guitar.

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That's why I hate Season 6

 

"Oh hey, a new main character, I hope we get to see her bonding with the other - oh, a Pinkie episode? Okay, that's fine, but what about Starli - ah, a Spike episode; sure, but seriously, what about - OH THANK GOD, A STARLIGHT EPISO - why the hell is Trixie here?!"

 

By the end of the Season, Starlight is firmly back at Season 5 levels of characterization yet the writers treat her as if she's fully bonded with everyone

 

THANKS FOR SHOWING US ALL THAT, WRITERS!

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