general What labels would make you end a friendship?

[Miss 6,211]

Idk what would be an appropriate title, but it's like this...

I have friends that are conservative christians and are most-likely anti-abortion. I am pro-choice. The idea is playing around in my head that what if the matter o "abortion" came up in conversation one day. Would I be outcasted? I have many friends already who know I am pro-choice who haven't shunned me, but they weren't conservative christian. 

I personally find it ridiculous to end a friendship over that, but I am on the more "wiggle-side" of course. 

So my questions extends very far, if you found out your friend republican, socialist, neo-nazi, democrat, other-kin, brony (XD), catholic, agender, etc. would you stop being friends with them? 

Thoughts?

 

[Weles 100]

My friends all know I have very unconventional political beliefs, and it hasn't caused many problems. In fact they are usually more concerned about my being a brony.  But as long as you act like a confident, friendly person nobody should be overly concerned with your hobbies or beliefs.

9 minutes ago, Misscellanio said:

 

I have friends that are conservative christians and are most-likely anti-abortion. I am pro-choice. The idea is playing around in my head that what if the matter o "abortion" came up in conversation one day.

I remember an evangelical friend asked me about this very thing. I basically said I don't care and we started talking about something else.

[Lucky Bolt 34,914]

Something was here...

Edited May 26, 2019 by Lucky Bolt

[honk friend 1,966]

There's always a person beneath those labels and they're always worth giving a shot

That said, don't expect me to keep quiet if you're a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, or anything like that.

[Discordian 6,013]

I wouldn't end a friendship under any circumstances. The closest thing I've come to ending a friendship  is that we just stopped talking but my door (PMs?) is always open even if it's been years since we talked. Once a friend, always a friend.

 

There is one or two exceptions where I have done so of course, under extreme circumstances, but that's my general rule.

[Nerdy Luigi 2,064]

I don't care about labels, but I still cannot stand people who can't accept others just because they don't fit their standards. People like racists, homophobes, transphobes, sexists, and all of that junk. Seriously, just get over it.

Edited July 21, 2017 by Barik the Luigineer

[Catpone Cerberus 23,420]

Nothing really, I judge people individually and how they act towards me. Only thing probably would be racist and sexist (and heterophobe?) in the form of hating white straight males, but in that case we wouldn't be friends in the first place, since I'm white straight male. 

And before anyone asks, no, I would not care if someone actually was racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, neo-nazi, and whatever else there is, as long as they don't try to pull me into it, or cause obvious harm to other people. Hating a group of people in itself doesn't matter, as long as it stays as an opinion and doesn't turn into actions.

[Black Sabbath 2,484]

If I found out that one of my friends were an anti-vaxxer I'd end the friendship as fast as I could. There's a limit to the amount of stupidity I can tolerate. 

 

[Weles 100]

45 minutes ago, Yamet said:

If I found out that one of my friends were an anti-vaxxer I'd end the friendship as fast as I could. There's a limit to the amount of stupidity I can tolerate. 

 

Lol

They're technically a danger, if only to themselves.

[Discordian 6,013]

3 hours ago, Weles said:

My friends all know I have very unconventional political beliefs, and it hasn't caused many problems. In fact they are usually more concerned about my being a brony.  But as long as you act like a confident, friendly person nobody should be overly concerned with your hobbies or beliefs.

I remember an evangelical friend asked me about this very thing. I basically said I don't care and we started talking about something else.

 

This is an important point many people don't seem to take into account. There are other things to talk about. You don't have to sum up your entire relationship with a person based on one topic. You can't be friends with abortionists but you can be friends with a brony, yeah? Talk about ponies and leave the other stuff for someone else.

 

Of course, I also think it's healthy to disagree with your friends too. Circlejerking is fun and all but you need the perspective of opposing opinions to get through life. You don't and can't live in a bubble.

[Black Sabbath 2,484]

12 minutes ago, Weles said:

They're technically a danger, if only to themselves.

Technically, they are also a danger to other people since some depends on herd immunity. 

Edited July 21, 2017 by Yamet

[Kiri 7,277]

I have friends from various political, cultural, and religious backgrounds, and I appreciate their different perspectives. We also tend to talk about things that don't have to do with our differences in values, lifestyles, etc. and get along just fine. As a general rule, I avoid talking politics as much as possible. 

However, I would stop being friends with someone if I found out that they were part of, or supported, a hate group (racism, sexism, Nazism, etc.) because I do not condone the ideologies behind them. I would especially distance myself from them if their organization was known for putting other people in harm. I'd want to protect myself and my loved ones by not associating myself with them in any way, shape, or form. 

[Weles 100]

19 minutes ago, Lady Kiriness said:

 

However, I would stop being friends with someone if I found out that they were part of, or supported, a hate group (racism, sexism, Nazism, etc.) because I do not condone the ideologies behind them. I would especially distance myself from them if their organization was known for putting other people in harm. I'd want to protect myself and my loved ones by not associating myself with them in any way, shape, or form. 

I understand where you're coming from, but hate is somebody's own fault, not their political team. And many factions not listed as "hate groups" promote violence, such as ANTIFA and certain religious bodies.

Protecting yourself and others from mentally disturbed individuals is necessary, but as soon as we condemn expressions and symbols for no reason other than their being strange to us, we're doing exactly what we want to avoid.

Star Wars explains it best

 

[Meeps 297]

If we were friends just fine before I knew, we would remain friends; and hopefully be smart enough not to push one another's buttons.

There are other criteria that could lead to the end of a friendship that depend on the individual, however.

[Miss 6,211]

1 hour ago, Weles said:

I understand where you're coming from, but hate is somebody's own fault, not their political team. And many factions not listed as "hate groups" promote violence, such as ANTIFA and certain religious bodies.

Protecting yourself and others from mentally disturbed individuals is necessary, but as soon as we condemn expressions and symbols for no reason other than their being strange to us, we're doing exactly what we want to avoid.

 

I think that's why in parenthesis she put ("racism, sexism, nazism") cuz groups such as KKK, Nazis, Al Qaeda specifically include hatred/superiority over other groups of people as one of their prime principles. So of course not strange at all just out right hateful. 

6 hours ago, The Cerberus said:

Nothing really, I judge people individually and how they act towards me. Only thing probably would be racist and sexist (and heterophobe?) in the form of hating white straight males, but in that case we wouldn't be friends in the first place, since I'm white straight male. 

And before anyone asks, no, I would not care if someone actually was racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, neo-nazi, and whatever else there is, as long as they don't try to pull me into it, or cause obvious harm to other people. Hating a group of people in itself doesn't matter, as long as it stays as an opinion and doesn't turn into actions.

Well what if they felt as if they were superior to you and admitted it to you. They didn't go rub it in your face but let's say you're peruvian and they are chinese and they say "I believe I am superior to you because I am chinese." And that was it. No hate just racism in the form of superiority.

Would you still be friends with them knowing they felt as if they were better than you just because birth?

[Sun Ray 333]

I honestly think that abortion is like killing innocent baby's that would say "no, I don't wanna die, I has a future" if they could. That's what I think. I'll try to stop anyone who does it but I won't shun them. I only agree with abortion if the baby will have severe disabilities or if the mother or baby has a guarantied chance of death. It's absolutely your choice though as a fellow pro-choice would say.

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

For me, it would be simply using me as a tool for your selfish agenda. If you're THAT kind of friend, then you were never my friend.

Basically, a backstabber or the person who believes that 'Friends' are for benefits. If my friend's politics and ideals differ from mine, then it honestly can bring a severe strain into building a friendly relationship if we have radically different ideals. You're not my friend, but most definitely a rival if your ideals wildly differ from mine. But, if you desire peace just as much as I, then we can hopefully maintain a peaceful relationship and go our separate ways.

To me, you're not a friend if you don't share any common grounds with me. You're just a person that hopefully wishes to establish a peaceful relationship towards me and there's nothing wrong with that. Just that in my perspective, there's a difference between friendly and peaceful relationships.

[Glacies Frost 428]

There's not a whole lot people can do to drive me away from them. The only way to make me really dismiss you as friend is to either betray me in some manner... or to take an action that I find condemnable. There are very few and I won't bother to list them here. But suffice to say that unless you're violent or some kind of extreme ideologue, we're gonna be cool. I love hearing differing opinions.

[Catpone Cerberus 23,420]

2 hours ago, Misscellanio said:

Well what if they felt as if they were superior to you and admitted it to you. They didn't go rub it in your face but let's say you're peruvian and they are chinese and they say "I believe I am superior to you because I am chinese." And that was it. No hate just racism in the form of superiority.

Would you still be friends with them knowing they felt as if they were better than you just because birth?

Yes, if they don't rub it to my face like you said, yes. It doesn't matter if they think that they are better because where they are born. I have been friends with many people who have thought that they are better than me because I wasn't like them and that didn't bother me. Again, opinions don't matter, as long as they don't turn into actions, if they started treat me like inferior, then in certain limit, our friendship would end.  

And even in that case, it wouldn't be because their label is racist, but because their individual actions. 

Edited July 22, 2017 by The Cerberus

[Miss 6,211]

9 minutes ago, The Cerberus said:

Yes, if they don't rub it to my face like you said, yes. It doesn't matter if they think that they are better because where they are born. I have been friends with many people who have thought that they are better than me because I wasn't like them and that didn't bother me. Again, opinions don't matter, as long as they don't turn into actions, if they started treat me like inferior, then in certain limit, our friendship would end.  

interesting. Idk if I would be able to do that. I would try to make them see that we are equals and if anything show how I am better than them in some things (as a means to disprove) first. 

But honestly could NOT sit comfortably with a person knowing that they think I am some inferior being because I have brown skin, or because I'm american, or because my ancestors were mexican etc.

Edited July 22, 2017 by Misscellanio

[Prospekt 10,984]

I'm a white male Christian and my best friend is a female who comes from a completely different racial, ethnic, and religious background. She's pansexual, while I'm straight. She's an immigrant from Mexico, while I was born in the United States and I continue to live there.

Even though I am suspicious of political correctness, you know what? I wouldn't trade my best friend for the world. I wouldn't change a single thing about her. I would only break off that friendship if she refused to accept me in return.

My biggest problem with modern society is how often this attitude is rejected in favor of acceptance by a larger community. I can't stand the obsession with labels. You be you and I'll be me. I won't hate on you and ideally you won't hate on me. We'll go from there and find out what we have in common.

[Guest]

Some of my friends are christians while I hate religion overall. We get along perfectly for the past... I dunno, 10+ years. Anyone's worth a shot, I'd say.

[RavenholmZombie 1,329]

In most cases, I'd never end a friendship over somebody's personal labels.

However, since you asked. I'd probably end a friendship if my friend identified as either far-right or Alt-Right.

As for religion, I'm an atheist and a rather chill one at that. So I wouldn't end a friendship over it.

[Yumekai 735]

I try not to end friendships over opinions, heck I would be friends with an anti brony as long as he doesn't want all bronies dead and has mediocre points of why he doesn't like it. To tell the truth I'm very adaptive and loyal to my friends and try to make the differences work but rather than an opinion that would make me end it is if they take advantage of my kindness and loyalty... It's just a terrible feeling...

Edited July 22, 2017 by Yumekai

[Envy 5,992]

It'd be really tough for me to be friends with an misogynist/MRA and/or anti-LGBT individual (including the BS "love the sinner, hate the sin" nonsense which I don't believe for one second). Why? Because they are prejudiced, and prejudiced against me. They want to deny me rights. Their beliefs are wrong, their beliefs are evil. It's easy to brush off a lot of bad traits in someone (like science illiteracy, not believing in evolution - boy do I have to bite my tongue in that case), but when they're against you and your rights, then it's just too personal.

And because I can empathize with other groups, I would have a very hard time being a friend with a racist, transphobe, etc.

These individuals need to learn that their "opinions" are wrong and immoral. These views deserve absolutely no respect, and the individuals holding these views need to grow up. I should not have to be in a position where I have to look beyond someone's hatred for what I am and their direct want to deny me rights. But I realize sometimes it happens and it really is a very frustrating "friendship".