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Do you believe in heaven and hell?

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Well I sort of know for a fact that both places are existent and apparently in my dreams I literally created a new heaven that is on earth called Troneon. Even though they are dreams they still feel real and they also actually feel like they are taking place in the future. :)

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Yes, I do.

However, as a Christian, I don't believe God particularly wants to send people to Hell when they die. God is very forgiving, after all, Jesus Christ died for our sins, so things that mankind has done in those years are forgiven, past and future. I think people will go to Heaven if they accept Christ, whether that's while alive or at the gates. I'm not saying if you're not Christian, you're bad, but it is good to see the light.

I'm not going to disrespect your thoughts though. I let people find their faith on their own accord.

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no. I've seen both already here on earth 

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Certainly not.  Heaven and hell are just concepts that were invented to control people; a promise of reward and a threat of punishment to keep people coming back to the religion they were indoctrinated into.  That's how religion perpetuates and sustains itself.

If there were a god, surely such a perfect being would know that infinite punishment for finite crime would be incredibly immoral and monstrous.  Furthermore, an eternal consciousness, no matter how blissful it's intended to be, would become torture after a long enough period of time.  Therefore, heaven and hell would have a sort of asymptotic relationship, not unlike fire and ice, where at a certain point, they would be indistinguishable from one another; it would just be pain.  Most people cannot imagine immortality to be a curse, but I submit that that is from a lack of imagination.  The truth is that nothingness, or non-existence, is not a bad thing.  It's not a punishment nor painful.  The intuitive idea that non-existence is the worst thing can ever happen to someone is one we desperately need to outgrow.  Being dead feels just like the eons before you were born.  I am grateful that my consciousness will end someday.  An afterlife would be horrible, even if it were heaven.

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I do believe in both but not as places but states of being. To have true peace and love in one's soul is to find Heaven, even beyond death. To hold on to hate and isolate one's self is to be in Hell.

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I believe in both places because it says so in the bible, and the bible itself is the word of god handed down through people like Moses or the Prophet Isaiah. God is always creating new miracles to help restore our faith in him, we just have to look for it. 

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I don't. Might sound kind of bleak, but I think that when you die, this is it. 

Instead, I just focus on giving my life meaning so that death gives me a feeling of closure instead of depression by the end, and so that by extension of my accomplishments I'll still exist in this world, in a way.

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Well, nobody knows really. I think heaven and hell are made up places to keep people in line, however I do not think religion are. People have always socialised in one way or another. If they dont form religions they form as strong cultural subgroups.

As an non religion person death have always haunted me. Maybe its my western way of thinking, that we live and we die(in many eastern countrys they belive that your are reborn, like in hinduism and budism). Its a nice thougt to be reborn to start with a new set of cards however, we're never really brought back to life. In hinduism they belive you are reborn and that you bring your soul with you, however I dont think they say that you bring your memory with you. What is the point of being reborn if you dont remmber anything, not even who you are. 

 

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I'm agnostic, so while I believe in higher powers beyond our comprehension, I refuse to submit to the God(s) worshipped by most of humanity, if He/She doles out human suffering, vice, injustice and corruption on the scale that we have witnessed for most of history, or creates/let alone permit the creation of truly evil people in His/Her image. This sort of inadvertent cruelty is beyond hypocritical. Life is ultimately meaningless so it is up to our feelings, desires, consciousness and morals to give it meaning. Organized religion is at its most useful when it can persuade others to lead a better and more dignified life.

 

On the off chance I'm wrong, I think I've led a life so far that will justifiably keep me out of Hell though I honestly shudder at the thought of anyone being made to suffer for all eternity. Heaven, as we perceive it, is a very sublime fate so I hope that it exists.

Edited by ShadowPhoenix

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I really hope hell exist because trust me, real bad guy in this world never met justice and prison. They need to be punished by something above human laws.

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I don't believe in either. If there's an afterlife at all, I highly doubt it would conform to any religion's views on it. That said, I don't actually think there's an afterlife to begin with. I hope there is, but I don't think so.

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Yes. I do believe in them. I'm a christian and I believe that there is a heaven and a hell.

Edited by Sketchy Tune

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I most certainly don't. I believe in reincarnation more than I do "heaven" or "hell," because those two concepts were invented by madmen who wanted to control the actions of people through rather audacious works of fiction that try to be history books. 

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I do not. It's illogical to say that there is a place with no pain, no suffering, no sadness where everyone gets along and all believe the same thing. It's a form of control. Since it is inherent that people have different views, and there are many religions, they contradict and therefore heaven is a place that is unable to truly exist. I also do not believe in hell since morals are subjective, and not everyone has the same morals as a book, so by inherently having your own set of morals, you would be sent to hell for the simple act of seeing things differently, and I find it hard to believe that a place you're sent for not meeting the moral guidelines of a book is real when everyone has their own beliefs of right and wrong.

 

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Hell is real because you see, there is the planet Venus. It has extremely high temperatures, I believe somewhere around 400 degrees Celsius. Its surface also has pressure more than that of the bottom of the Earth's ocean floor. It is so hot that your body would actually straight up MELT. With this, I don't think it's possible to say that Hell does not exist.

But I also think a heaven is real because if I'm not mistaken, there have been reports from people who have had near death experiences that they didn't just see black. I think there's multiple types of visions but the only one I remember is a rapid flashback of your whole life. This is a hint that your brain can freeze time when you die and create an eternal vision of the heaven you believe you will go to.

Do I believe heaven is a real place? Yes I do because I am extremely religious and I take my religion like no joke. (Not Christianity, but I believe that all ideas are real gods). I know it's illogical and I do not have an explanation for it to be true, but the comforting warmth of this belief is absolutely pleasant for me. Maybe it's unhealthy that I'm going with an illogical belief for the sake of my own comfort, but I think everything's OK as long as I'm not a bad or toxic person.

God damnit I wrote another essay

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No. Both are a self indulgent fantasy for religious people. Heaven is for "good people" (read as religious people) and there they get to live forever and have a big mansion and all the other stuff most people do not get to experience in their lifetime. Hell is for "bad people" (read as athiest, "the gays", anyone who a religious person doesn't like, anyone from any religion that isn't theirs, and in some cases anyone who isn't in their denomination) who will burn for all of eternity because arbitrary rules from a book written thousands of years ago. It is entirely vacuous to believe in either, and it's usually exploited by scam artists (read as televangelists) who dope people out of their money to fund their luxurious lifestyles. 

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I believe that there is a heaven. I was raised as believing that as well.

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Yes and no  I don't believe that they exist in literal sense the model is so simple. But as your own aspects and choices I believe such states are possible to achieve.

I call the state myself sleeping in the fire as it demonstrates the torture that you're  unaware about  basically it is a situation where you yourself somehow obstruct your own path and fail to go forward because of that 

I believe that your own progress in life or afterlife is only depending  on yourself and only one who can obstruct or judge you is also yourself.

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I believe there is no set heaven or hell, when you die you make your own reality, whatever that may be. I don't believe in any established things by the religious in our world, minus a few things here and there.

Edited by Califorum

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As a celestianist I believe that we have three ways of possibly re-incarnating, 

A) As a pony in Equestria,

B} As a Human in the Human world,

C) As a pony in the human world.

I don't believe in heaven but I believe in a form of hell (Tartarus) and the human world is that.

 

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Nope, it just isn't logical that a  heaven or hell exists from a scientific point of view

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I'm very Christian and I do believe in a heaven and hell, though I believe it's a bit more complicated than that, and a bit better.

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I... don't. It just doesn't make sense to me and it's not supported by science. But I'm starting to sound like I'm trying to be smart so I'll stop. :P

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