What if Gluttons was illegal to serve or allow online service?

[SunshineFlow 43]

Try to imagine them being on YouTube. Sorry, its against our policy to allow such people here. Maybe its not that they are fat, but that they are promoters, this is not to say thin people who says have some cake. But when they make fat food jokes like "torture horror scene with food" like have a pepsi, "because a youtuber sent them there"

If that makes sense. I dunno, i just have read some messed up views about it on the internet and i sort of shake my head what people write to be honest. But if that law got passed on google or youtube, then what would your reaction be?

Edited August 9, 2017 by SunshineFlow

[Yakamaru 3,127]

If it became illegal: Stop being fat then. Stop shoving 10k+ calories in your face every day. Do some exercise. Become an actual healthy human being.

Normalizing being fat/obese is utter lunacy. It's unhealthy and increases chances of everything from heart attacks to diabetes. Oh, and hemorrhoids. Lots of hemorrhoids.

I say this as a fat person myself who are currently losing weight. It's an unhealthy lifestyle, and you'll get plenty of D(iabetes) if you continue down this path.

However, it becoming illegal to be fat, especially in America, is as likely as the moon suddenly turning into Swiss cheese.

[SunshineFlow 43]

I wouldn't say its a 1,2 and 3. But if you say to yourself each day.. i wont eat other than what i need today everyday and like excercise for about 6 days a week. 7 is optional on saturdays. But basically thats all you need to say is Monday-Friday and Sunday. No junk, no exceptions and you have to be strict with yourself and on saturday its ok but you dont have to eat junk, its just optional. But even if you skip it you can NEVER eat outside that day. Very important that you are strict, if you do that then its easy.

I played games as a kid, so i have nostalgic attitude towards what i ate then and what i eat as an adult. Its just use that common sense and just dont care what people do or eat. Just avoid it and it should be fine. Thats my recommendation atleast. Having hobbies outside of it is nothing wrong though. That usually help, you just have to be strict and you can do it.

[Kings&Hooves14 616]

The government has NO right to dictate how, what, when, or how much people eat (or how much they can weigh). That's insane. 

If they decide to regulate such things, pretty soon they'll be burning books, telling what we can wear, and telling us what we can think; some of these things are happening already.

Also, businesses shouldn't have the right to refuse service based on a person's weight or diet.

Furthermore, despite what some ill-informed--or infuriatingly stubborn--people say, obesity isn't always caused by a gluttonous, lazy lifestyle.

Some people have eating disorders, others gain weight due to medication or illness--there are many reasons people become obese.

[Jeric 46,851]

Gluttony =/= Obesity. I don't even have to attack this by defending the overweight. I can use myself. 

 

I'm 5'9 and 140 pounds ...smack dab in the middle of the healthy lower and upper limit. Basically, I'm the perfect general weight for my height. Here's the thing, I bet I can out eat you if you are twice my weight. I know. I do it all the time. I could explain my catabolic/anabolic and basal rates ... but simply stated ... I'm thin as hell and eat all the time. 

To rub it in harder, I smoked for 16 years and ... lungs are perfectly fine. I eat what I want and my blood work is freaking phenomenal. I am 40 but look and sound like I'm in my 20's. I'm not just a guy online here either. About 20 people on MLPF have seen me in person and know all this for a fact. 

So ... you wanna deprive me of my two double quarter pounders, Big Mac, and three large fries? Because ... I'm probably a skinnier and healthier looking glutton? Ha! 

=D 

#dnamatters 

[SunshineFlow 43]

3 hours ago, Jeric said:

Gluttony =/= Obesity. I don't even have to attack this by defending the overweight. I can use myself. 

 

I'm 5'9 and 140 pounds ...smack dab in the middle of the healthy lower and upper limit. Basically, I'm the perfect general weight for my height. Here's the thing, I bet I can out eat you if you are twice my weight. I know. I do it all the time. I could explain my catabolic/anabolic and basal rates ... but simply stated ... I'm thin as hell and eat all the time. 

To rub it in harder, I smoked for 16 years and ... lungs are perfectly fine. I eat what I want and my blood work is freaking phenomenal. I am 40 but look and sound like I'm in my 20's. I'm not just a guy online here either. About 20 people on MLPF have seen me in person and know all this for a fact. 

So ... you wanna deprive me of my two double quarter pounders, Big Mac, and three large fries? Because ... I'm probably a skinnier and healthier looking glutton? Ha! 

=D 

#dnamatters 

Some people are born different. But i'm not a cartoon character, neither do i have high burnning insides. So i have to stick to the rules of geneticks. Do i call you lucky in a sense. But not everyone is born a A body, some has to work for it : 3

[Prospekt 11,018]

Gluttony is perfectly legal, but it has the potential to wreak havoc on one's body when done in excess. Not to mention it's bad financially because the person in question may feel the urge to buy more and more food. Not everybody is the same. Gluttony does not have to equal obesity, as @Jeric said above. Some adults have a metabolism that makes it virtually impossible to gain a lot of weight, while some people may suffer from an eating disorder that can lead to obesity.

I could go on and on about how unethical actually outlawing gluttony would be, but this isn't the debate pit, so for now I'm just going to say the government (the few) has no right to make these kinds of decisions on behalf of the people (the many). If the simple act of eating isn't an act of aggression toward others, then what is the point of regulating it? That's overreach.

[Meeps 297]

10 hours ago, Yakamaru said:

Normalizing being fat/obese is utter lunacy. It's unhealthy and increases chances of everything from heart attacks to diabetes. Oh, and hemorrhoids. Lots of hemorrhoids.

I say this as a fat person myself who are currently losing weight. It's an unhealthy lifestyle, and you'll get plenty of D(iabetes) if you continue down this path.

However, it becoming illegal to be fat, especially in America, is as likely as the moon suddenly turning into Swiss cheese.

Couldn't agree more. It's fine to love and accept yourself, but to be in an unhealthy range and to try to force others to accept your condition as normal is not ok. Some people are thicker and within a normal range, some people are thinner and dangerously on edge, but I wish the "accept everyone even if they're a week away from a heart attack" thing would stop. This is actually a strangely timely thread, as someone I know is seeing an unhealthy parent through their sixth heart attack. I hope everything goes fine, but hot dang: things may taste lovely, and sitting on the couch all day may feel amazing, but its just not worth it at the cost of health. 

All that said, larger people shouldn't be bullied due to their weight, nor made examples of. 

@SunshineFlow, I heard something about Japan's fat tax. What do you think about that? I personally don't think it would be a good idea if the government regulated gluttony, because as @Jeric said above, gluttony can mean different things for different people. Who would decide what equals gluttony for whom? 

Edited August 10, 2017 by Meeps

[SunshineFlow 43]

14 minutes ago, Meeps said:

@SunshineFlow, I heard something about Japan's fat tax. What do you think about that? I personally don't think it would be a good idea if the government regulated gluttony, because as

No friggin way. Thats kind of awesome. Good for them i think!

[Jeric 46,851]

6 hours ago, SunshineFlow said:

No friggin way. Thats kind of awesome. Good for them i think!

The way they do it is idiotic.

If a country honestly wants to force health on its citizens it would regulate and restrict imports of sugars into their country and ban domestic production of it. Less sugar means less obesity. 

The Libertarian side of me would be opposed to this in the US, but I'm extremely comfortable with the knowledge that such a ban is impossible in this nation thanks to campaign donors and constituency. Coca Cola has lots more money than its opposition on this matter, and it's such a fringe concept in the US that it will never see the light of day. When NYC tried to just reduce the size of soda ... it was tossed out. 

Sugar is a strong lobby, and as the internet has proven time and again, people are often prone to weakness and limited self control. 

I do agree that while people shouldn't harass or troll obese people, it isn't a good idea to applaud or normalize it. It simply comes down to not being a dick, you know?

[SunshineFlow 43]

1 minute ago, Jeric said:

The way they do it is idiotic.

If a country honestly wants to force health on its citizens it would regulate and restrict imports of sugars into their country and ban domestic production of it. Less sugar means less obesity. 

The Libertarian side of me would be opposed to this in the US, but I'm extremely comfortable with the knowledge that such a ban is impossible in this nation thanks to campaign donors and constituency. Coca Cola has lots more money than its opposition on this matter, and it's such a fringe concept in the US that it will never see the light of day. When NYC tried to just reduce the size of soda ... it was tossed out. 

Sugar is a strong lobby, and as the internet has proven time and again, people are often prone to weakness and limited self control. 

I do agree that while people shouldn't harass or troll obese people, it isn't a good idea to applaud or normalize it. It simply comes down to not being a dick, you know?

Well its more a pity for people who gets joy from watching people suffering. Like if people have health issues or have it bad, even if lets say they are demeaning to you that doesn't make it right to do it back. It only hurts more. But the only sort of "troll" stuff i do is to watch (which is very rare) fat triggered videos on youtube. Like i won't recommend it because the comments are toxic, and i don't think of them as any less. But its more for cheap slapsticks which i know is bad but i guess its a way to make me take out frustration in things at times.

But i sort of agree with you. One should learn to control ones eating habits. Which is why "no exception" only saturday i can eat one snack or chocolate box etc. But i can also easily avoid it, its optional. But basically other days "NO" just zero, even if i skip it i say no. Thats a perfect example of self control. You just have to remind yourself, its all about the habit i think and that way i think it will just work so well for you. But in other cases i don't find comfort in real pain and misery of other people.

[cmarston1 5,959]

Knowing how America functions, this would never happen in even in a million years.

[Peppermint Larry 203]

If YouTube were to target all videos that promote gluttony (but not necessarily obese people), we'd have to ban many food review channels... and if the government were on board, we'd have to shut down all fast food joints. A Big Mac Meal with medium fries and coke is at least 1,000 calories, and to most people, that's half your caloric intake for the day- in one meal. Regardless of who's eating it, or talking about it on camera- an obese person or a twig- that could be considered gluttony. It brings a question about where the line should be drawn.

Are we going to ban everyone above a certain BMI from being content creators and television personality? Surely not! BMI is useless as it doesn't take muscle mass or bone density into consideration. Bye-bye sports! Should the government make pre-packaged food rations, and force people to only eat that? Sounds a bit totalitarian if you ask me. There is no clear-cut way of defining what is too gluttonous, or even what is too fat.

 I watch obese YouTubers who review tech, and don't review or eat food of any kind in their videos. I watch skinny YouTubers that do. And there's so many content creators out there that don't even show themselves in their videos. Many fast food franchises advertise on YouTube. Banning, or even just demonetizing "gluttonous" channels wouldn't just hurt the platform's reputation with its users, it would more than likely push advertisers away.

[EpicEnergy 23,190]

That would be a terrible thing for someone to do, to refuse service to gluttons. I bet they would get a ton of criticism.

[Splashee 28,563]

Gluttons? Gluten? What is this thread even about?

Of course it would be terrible to treat people differently because they are... glutton for punishment?

[Thuja 3,659]

I think people should just mind their own business and let people who are overweight or obese handle their health with their doctor.

Technically, I'd be obese but I gained a lot of weight from the medications I take.  Why should other people really be "concerned" for my health when I regularly see my doctor and she says that I'm pretty healthy for someone of my weight?  As much as I try losing weight, it comes back almost immediately.  People may not like seeing my fat but it's going no where and is very stubborn.  How do people think I feel about it?  I know I'm fat, I'm working on it, people don't need to remind me every place I go about it.  Just mind your own business and move on with your day.  There're loads of reasons why someone gains weight and it isn't all sitting around and eating 5 pizzas a day and guzzling down liter after liter of mountain dew or whatever.

[Fluttershutter 2,425]

Well then the portion sizes in american restaurants would be illegal.

[TBD 17,254]

Well I guess if that happens, we can all say bye bye to all-you-can-buffet.