where and who hid the geodes in that cave?

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36 minutes ago, Skytower said:

Maybe.  Pony Twilight always had her natural magic to draw upon, and so did Sunset until she came through the portal, but human Twilight never used magic in her life until the Friendship games and she isn't as confident in her self as pony Twilight.  Maybe she instinctively needs Sunset or thinks deep down that she won't be able to control the magic without Sunset nearby.  The relationship between human Twilight and Sunset and pony Twilight and Sunset is fundamentally different.  Sunset looks up to pony Twilight the way human Twilight looks up to Sunset.

So what you're saying is; without sunset, sci-twi would never have gotten her own element/geode, right?

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2 hours ago, Cahead2015 said:

So what you're saying is; without sunset, sci-twi would never have gotten her own element/geode, right?

Hard to say.  The magic from Equestria really started to leak through when Midnight Sparkle started tearing the dimensional barriers apart and from the looks of it while Sunset sealed most of the rifts she didn't get the one on the portal itself.  Magic is equal parts emotion/desire and control.  I believe that the magic wanders the human world randomly until it encounters a place to settle and/or a person with a huge amount of emotional need or distress.  It settled into the geodes and Gloriosa had the desire, but not the control.  It think it is possible that if Twilight had not gone to Camp Everfree then there would have been only six geodes and that because she was there the last geode split in two because both Sunset and Twilight had previous exposure to magic.  Also that the magic they both have the most affinity for is friendship magic.  I think it's reasonable to think that Sunset and Twilight are both so alike in manor, temperament and interests that any friendship magic would be split between them.

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1 hour ago, Skytower said:

Hard to say.  The magic from Equestria really started to leak through when Midnight Sparkle started tearing the dimensional barriers apart and from the looks of it while Sunset sealed most of the rifts she didn't get the one on the portal itself.  Magic is equal parts emotion/desire and control.  I believe that the magic wanders the human world randomly until it encounters a place to settle and/or a person with a huge amount of emotional need or distress.  It settled into the geodes and Gloriosa had the desire, but not the control.  It think it is possible that if Twilight had not gone to Camp Everfree then there would have been only six geodes and that because she was there the last geode split in two because both Sunset and Twilight had previous exposure to magic.  Also that the magic they both have the most affinity for is friendship magic.  I think it's reasonable to think that Sunset and Twilight are both so alike in manor, temperament and interests that any friendship magic would be split between them.

Remember equine Twilight and Starlight, both had to reactivated the map in "spice up your life", maybe the same can be said for human sunset and sci-twi maybe both had to be together in order to work the other(nothing sexually btw), maybe it has to be two, no more, no less.

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23 hours ago, Cahead2015 said:

Remember equine Twilight and Starlight, both had to reactivated the map in "spice up your life", maybe the same can be said for human sunset and sci-twi maybe both had to be together in order to work the other(nothing sexually btw), maybe it has to be two, no more, no less.

Friendship is a binary concept.  Perhaps in Equestria Starlight is the second part of the equation where in the world of CHS Sunset is the second part?

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1 hour ago, Skytower said:

Friendship is a binary concept.  Perhaps in Equestria Starlight is the second part of the equation where in the world of CHS Sunset is the second part?

You said "second part" twice.

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4 hours ago, Cahead2015 said:

You said "second part" twice.

Intentionally.  In Equestria the pony Twilight finds in Starlight a friend and supporter who shares many of the same interest that Twilight does, and in the land of CHS the human Twilight (who is less sure of herself, does not have pony Twilight's life time of magical learning and is facing a force that her lifelong pursuit of science told her didn't exist) finds in Sunset a friend who is self assured, knows magic and is willing to support her during those times when human Twilight is out of her dept.  We saw this in Freindship Games at least twice when it was Sunset who guided Twilight to grasping the geodes and before that in parting the brambles to get into the camp.

  In Equestria Starlight does not have an element of harmony because Twilight and the rest of the M6 are complete, but in the human world Twilight is only complete when Sunset is with her.  Thus my theory is that the element of friendship in the human world split into two parts because it needed too.  Starlight and Sunset are the second part of the friendship equation, each being the type needed for each world.  Pinky, Rarity, AppleJack, Fluttershy and Rainbow are complete in themselves.

Edited November 6, 2017 by Skytower

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1 hour ago, Skytower said:

Intentionally.  In Equestria the pony Twilight finds in Starlight a friend and supporter who shares many of the same interest that Twilight does, and in the land of CHS the human Twilight (who is less sure of herself, does not have pony Twilight's life time of magical learning and is facing a force that her lifelong pursuit of science told her didn't exist) finds in Sunset a friend who is self assured, knows magic and is willing to support her during those times when human Twilight is out of her dept.  We saw this in Freindship Games at least twice when it was Sunset who guided Twilight to grasping the geodes and before that in parting the brambles to get into the camp.

  In Equestria Starlight does not have an element of harmony because Twilight and the rest of the M6 are complete, but in the human world Twilight is only complete when Sunset is with her.  Thus my theory is that the element of friendship in the human world split into two parts because it needed too.  Starlight and Sunset are the second part of the friendship equation, each being the type needed for each world.  Pinky, Rarity, AppleJack, Fluttershy and Rainbow are complete in themselves.

So in reality, there just 6 elements, the prime one being a halve of one another.

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18 hours ago, Cahead2015 said:

So in reality, there just 6 elements, the prime one being a halve of one another.

At least in the world of CHS.  Perhaps because the element that was first brought into the CHS world by Sunset was fought over by her and Twilight.  Going bit further on that line of thought; the fact that the personifications of the other five elements were and are often in close proximity to the portal influenced the magic as it flowed into the world of CHS.

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2 hours ago, Skytower said:

At least in the world of CHS.  Perhaps because the element that was first brought into the CHS world by Sunset was fought over by her and Twilight.  Going bit further on that line of thought; the fact that the personifications of the other five elements were and are often in close proximity to the portal influenced the magic as it flowed into the world of CHS.

Speaking of the portal, what if those orbs that was leaking out of that crack are actually the Elements of Disharmony?!

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47 minutes ago, Cahead2015 said:

Speaking of the portal, what if those orbs that was leaking out of that crack are actually the Elements of Disharmony?!

Then they would most likely seek out the most trouble places, or people.  I wonder if they'd find the Sirens?

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30 minutes ago, Skytower said:

Then they would most likely seek out the most trouble places, or people.  I wonder if they'd find the Sirens?

We'll just have to see.

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You know, another possibility is that there IS a seventh element in Equestria. Waiting for Starlight to be ready for it. Look at Starswirl's book in the season 7 finale. The picture of the tree of harmony in it has 7 elements on it, instead of six. I see this as foreshadowing.

Edited April 26, 2018 by titanhades70

[Kaiser Umbra 0]

Can someone please explain what the geodes do, as well as the difference between Pony Up and Crystal Guardians?

[Kaiser Umbra 0]

Can someone please explain what the geodes do, as well as the difference between Pony Up and Crystal Guardians?

[Jane 121]

Clover the Clever, Starswil The Bearded.

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On 11/2/2019 at 3:41 PM, Kaiser Umbra said:

Can someone please explain what the geodes do, as well as the difference between Pony Up and Crystal Guardians?

"Pony Up-ing" happens when the girls sing and find the deepest parts of themselves, and also happens when they are exercising their virtue. In Legend of Everfree, the girls had their powers before they were introduced to the geodes. The geodes serve to let the girls transform into the Crystal Guardians and use their power by choice rather than by music or being their element. Weird, I know.

[Splashee 28,537]

Principals Celestia and Luna of course

They knew everything about that camp and its backstory.