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I am Hindu, pretty much polytheistic, you are reborn in a new position based on deeds of your life, no eternal punishment (forever is a long time and nobody deserves it, eventually they will have suffered as they have inflicted yet they continue to suffer. I never liked that idea.)

however I refuse to use my Vedas as science textbooks, we've all seen were that lead Europe in the dark ages and the crusades, and with the Middle East in the death of its scientific advancement. I listen to the words of hawking, Tyson, and Goodall before the highest priest of lord Shivva.

i use it only for my spiritual needs, though I attack any sort of belief that holds promise of Devine punishment for those who look elsewhere.

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On March 25, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Momento Mori said:

Paganism, Follower of the Twilight Path. Which is Death Worship. 

I'm a Mortician, so it's fitting. 

No it's not Satanic, no it's not Evil.

Any questions you may direct to here or PM.

Would you care to tell me a few of the base concepts? I personally have a deep interest in religions and this is oboe the second I was unaware of.

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Sure, so basically, when I say that it's about Death, it's more like immersing yourself in the energies of Death. Most people have an innate fear of dying, very deeply held..we do not fear Death but seek to understand it's trans-formative nature. Considering even in the Tarot Deck the Death card does not necessarily mean physical Death. 
Instead the card, and Death itself as a whole represents as stated above; change. These energies pulls us out of stagnation and encourages us to grow. 

We see Death as a guide and a teacher. Imagine what life would be like if people could be more flexible in the face of change. It's a freedom more or less from fear and most anxieties about life and the world. Death teaches us that eventually, everything in this world is going to be taken away. It's not punishment, it's simply the nature of things.
Honestly, the knowledge that comes from this lesson is what the Buddhists would call "non-attachment." 
It's not apathy by any means, instead it's a deeper appreciation for all of the things that you have, without any of the emotional baggage that comes from worrying about when or if you won't have them anymore.
Delving into this, touching Death, gives a person a more profound appreciation for life. Less encumbered by fear. And it can be tough, no doubt, but everyone is going to die, but most people struggle to hide from this fact; and somehow in that struggle most people forget how to even live at all.

Basically, this belief system is centred around balance in life, and understanding the flow of the world, it's energy give and take, cycles and rebirth.

There are two ways with Death himself that I've seen people take this. Some see Death as a metaphorical figure, and just use the teachings and perhaps his depictions as a guide. Then there are those like myself, who not only use the teachings, but do believe that creatures of Death and the Grim Reaper himself does exist and worship him as a God.

 

There is more to it, and especially the rituals that are performed are certainly not for the faint of heart, that seeks to reproduce the beneficial effects of near-death experiences and more. I doubt you'd want to go much further, but if it keeps peaking your interest, PM me and I will be happy to not only speak with you about it, but refer you to some good literature on the subject.

 

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Thanks for that, I wish more releigions held such an apprecition for life's end.

(Now onto something I forgot in my first post but won't incorporate  nicely into it)

i believe that Jesus, Muhammed, and Solomon were true people (though I call bs on Noah, no boat can hold two of every animal on earth and even if they could the shear amount of food those animals would require wouldn't.)

however I believe they were just that, people.

though I have a handful if problems with the bible, but this could just be my misunderstanding. If so, could a Christian correct me? I don't want to come off as a bigot. 

I have read that in the final days, the stars will fall from the sky. In order to wright that you couldn't understand what a star is.

another is it says earth is the center of the universe, as is clear, we are not.

my last is it says that all non human life exist for humans. This just wreaks of arrogance to me.

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On 20.3.2018 at 6:42 AM, CrystalBloodMoon said:

 

Back to this, I never thought anyone should "Burn in eternal flame" that's just aweful. Even serial killers shouldn't be succumbed to a fate such as that, and I always thought that the Christian God was immature in this sense, as well as in a few other instances. Tho, I dont mean to judge. Just my observation

this is so true it is the one reason i started to search the deeper meanings behind the christianity and the whole system. and after some time I reached the the conclusion that the humans themselves are only ones that are opposing themselves.and so i realized that the eternal flame stuff means that basically you, prevent yourself from going forward at all at that point which can be kinda described as being in a flame i guess though i personally call it sleeping in the fire as you never really realize you are in that position in the first place. and you dont realize it because your flesh has suppressed the spirit  so the spirit is the one who is actually suffering there 

 

I think the eternal suffering and stuff comes from there though just my own observation. and it is eternal as long as you dont realize in what situation you're in because the only one who can help you moving forward is yourself. though if you realize what is going on  you can start moving forward and that way grow closer to your spirit and go forward.

 

I personally believe that the goal of our existence not as humans or spirits but as beings is to move forward and progress until we one day become the gods of our own people and make them go through the same process and basically infinitely expanding our existence and the universe with it

 

 

20 hours ago, Momento Mori said:

Sure, so basically, when I say that it's about Death, it's more like immersing yourself in the energies of Death. Most people have an innate fear of dying, very deeply held..we do not fear Death but seek to understand it's trans-formative nature. Considering even in the Tarot Deck the Death card does not necessarily mean physical Death. 
Instead the card, and Death itself as a whole represents as stated above; change. These energies pulls us out of stagnation and encourages us to grow. 

We see Death as a guide and a teacher. Imagine what life would be like if people could be more flexible in the face of change. It's a freedom more or less from fear and most anxieties about life and the world. Death teaches us that eventually, everything in this world is going to be taken away. It's not punishment, it's simply the nature of things.
Honestly, the knowledge that comes from this lesson is what the Buddhists would call "non-attachment." 
It's not apathy by any means, instead it's a deeper appreciation for all of the things that you have, without any of the emotional baggage that comes from worrying about when or if you won't have them anymore.
Delving into this, touching Death, gives a person a more profound appreciation for life. Less encumbered by fear. And it can be tough, no doubt, but everyone is going to die, but most people struggle to hide from this fact; and somehow in that struggle most people forget how to even live at all.

Basically, this belief system is centred around balance in life, and understanding the flow of the world, it's energy give and take, cycles and rebirth.

There are two ways with Death himself that I've seen people take this. Some see Death as a metaphorical figure, and just use the teachings and perhaps his depictions as a guide. Then there are those like myself, who not only use the teachings, but do believe that creatures of Death and the Grim Reaper himself does exist and worship him as a God.

 

There is more to it, and especially the rituals that are performed are certainly not for the faint of heart, that seeks to reproduce the beneficial effects of near-death experiences and more. I doubt you'd want to go much further, but if it keeps peaking your interest, PM me and I will be happy to not only speak with you about it, but refer you to some good literature on the subject.

 

that is really interesting. I personally view the death as just another step going forward. More precisely i think the death is the final solution where your flesh and spirit have a chance to be united and will unless you actively work against it. I think it is because the Christ underwent the process on uniting every one who was,  is and will be into himself that way giving us the link and a easy way to  reconnect ourselves after death and unite. though that is just the beginning.of the process. I think that the goal for us is to unite everyone and everything  into ourselves and  become one yet still separate. allowing us to repeat the process again but this time as gods ourselves.

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8 minutes ago, Hanekawa Tsubasa said:

this is so true it is the one reason i started to search the deeper meanings behind the christianity and the whole system. and after some time I reached the the conclusion that the humans themselves are only ones that are opposing themselves.and so i realized that the eternal flame stuff means that basically you, prevent yourself from going forward at all at that point which can be kinda described as being in a flame i guess though i personally call it sleeping in the fire as you never really realize you are in that position in the first place. and you dont realize it because your flesh has suppressed the spirit  so the spirit is the one who is actually suffering there 

 

I think the eternal suffering and stuff comes from there though just my own observation. and it is eternal as long as you dont realize in what situation you're in because the only one who can help you moving forward is yourself. though if you realize what is going on  you can start moving forward and that way grow closer to your spirit and go forward.

 

I personally believe that the goal of our existence not as humans or spirits but as beings is to move forward and progress until we one day become the gods of our own people and make them go through the same process and basically infinitely expanding our existence and the universe with it

 

 

This is beautiful. I vibe with this. Keep up dem good feels B)

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I'm an active and practicing Catholic. If any of you have any questions about it, feel free to message me.

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I'm an Atheist who used to be Catholic.

I'm also officially ordained with the Church of Bacon :P

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On 2018-03-19 at 9:42 PM, CrystalBloodMoon said:

I never understood this. I was Athiest myself at one point but only because I studied everything without any mainstream religion that called to me. But just not seeing a reason to.... I'm not judging this, I try to see everything from multiple viewpoints, yet I never understood the logic, "It doesn't matter." Do explain, if you don't mind that is.

Back to this, I never thought anyone should "Burn in eternal flame" that's just aweful. Even serial killers shouldn't be succumbed to a fate such as that, and I always thought that the Christian God was immature in this sense, as well as in a few other instances. Tho, I dont mean to judge. Just my observation

I'm not religious myself, but my mom is, so I shall quote her: "Any man who doesn't love a woman (or vice versa), any person that has disobeyed the Ten Commandments, anyone who has ever sinned and not repented, anyone who has not converted and believes in Jesus and God, will burn in Hell for all eternity. Any impurities cannot be allowed into a purely hallowed place that is Heaven."

Now, this does somewhat make sense. If there is a dictator, and if there is someone who opposes said dictator, then they will be banished or killed. To put it into another perspective, imagine if there was a "Heaven on Earth". You wouldn't expect any killers to be allowed in, right? Nope, they would be barred from entering.

But as for not allowing homosexuals (etc.) in? Now, I *understand, two women together, two men together, a man with a non-binary person (etc. etc.) isn't what nature/God wants, but... seriously?

(*I do not agree with it, but on a scientific level, I can see where it is coming from. Do I still agree with it? No.)

Also, God supposedly gave us choice: either to worship Him and devote your life to Him, or burn in Hell for all eternity. That isn't so much of a choice, in my opinion. Besides, living eternally - even in a hallowed place - almost seems like Hell to me, just without the whole supposed eternal pain part.

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13 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

I'm not religious myself, but my mom is, so I shall quote her: "Any man who doesn't love a woman (or vice versa), any person that has disobeyed the Ten Commandments, anyone who has ever sinned and not repented, anyone who has not converted and believes in Jesus and God, will burn in Hell for all eternity. Any impurities cannot be allowed into a purely hallowed place that is Heaven."

Now, this does somewhat make sense. If there is a dictator, and if there is someone who opposes said dictator, then they will be banished or killed. To put it into another perspective, imagine if there was a "Heaven on Earth". You wouldn't expect any killers to be allowed in, right? Nope, they would be barred from entering.

But as for not allowing homosexuals (etc.) in? Now, I *understand, two women together, two men together, a man with a non-binary person (etc. etc.) isn't what nature/God wants, but... seriously?

(*I do not agree with it, but on a scientific level, I can see where it is coming from. Do I still agree with it? No.)

Also, God supposedly gave us choice: either to worship Him and devote your life to Him, or burn in Hell for all eternity. That isn't so much of a choice, in my opinion. Besides, living eternally - even in a hallowed place - almost seems like Hell to me, just without the whole supposed eternal pain part.

I know this is a little off topic, but its funny you say that cause there's a creepy posta that kinda plays around with that idea. Getting back on track now, even if you believe these religious texts were indeed inspired/"commissioned" by a divine being, they were still handled by humans for years. Humans whom have had more than plenty of chances/motives to "tweak" these words here and there to suet their own ends, so bare that in mind.       

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27 minutes ago, CHA0SXIII said:

I know this is a little off topic, but its funny you say that cause there's a creepy posta that kinda plays around with that idea. Getting back on track now, even if you believe these religious texts were indeed inspired/"commissioned" by a divine being, they were still handled by humans for years. Humans whom have had more than plenty of chances/motives to "tweak" these words here and there to suet their own ends, so bare that in mind.       

Fair point.

I myself am sort of an atheist. "Sort of" because even though I believe there is no God, I kind of do not care. :P (Unless someone tries to force their beliefs onto me...)

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6 hours ago, Feather Scribbles said:

I'm not religious myself, but my mom is, so I shall quote her: "Any man who doesn't love a woman (or vice versa), any person that has disobeyed the Ten Commandments, anyone who has ever sinned and not repented, anyone who has not converted and believes in Jesus and God, will burn in Hell for all eternity. Any impurities cannot be allowed into a purely hallowed place that is Heaven."

Now, this does somewhat make sense. If there is a dictator, and if there is someone who opposes said dictator, then they will be banished or killed. To put it into another perspective, imagine if there was a "Heaven on Earth". You wouldn't expect any killers to be allowed in, right? Nope, they would be barred from entering.

But as for not allowing homosexuals (etc.) in? Now, I *understand, two women together, two men together, a man with a non-binary person (etc. etc.) isn't what nature/God wants, but... seriously?

(*I do not agree with it, but on a scientific level, I can see where it is coming from. Do I still agree with it? No.)

Also, God supposedly gave us choice: either to worship Him and devote your life to Him, or burn in Hell for all eternity. That isn't so much of a choice, in my opinion. Besides, living eternally - even in a hallowed place - almost seems like Hell to me, just without the whole supposed eternal pain part.

I prefer reincarnation.

If some immature bastard won't let me into his "paradise" because I'm bi and don't believe in him, he can shove it up his backside (no offense)

Christianity never worked for me, and I was not happy being forced to believe in something I don't, and being told by my own parents that I'm a freak for not following His mold.

My mother stilll denies that she has any gay children.

And I already told her. Several times.

Any god that wants that for their creations is a total bastard who acts more controlling than they out to. Just saying.

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I'm a Christian. While I do believe in God and pray occasionally, I'm not exactly actively religious and I feel guilty about it sometimes.

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3 hours ago, Jaspers said:

While I do believe in God and pray occasionally, I'm not exactly actively religious and I feel guilty about it sometimes.

What's there to feel guilty about? As long as you're a good person, than why should your beliefs make you feel guilt? :)

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Just now, Recherche said:

What's there to feel guilty about? As long as you're a good person, than why should your beliefs make you feel guilt? :)

I'm not exactly sure, probably just that I don't feel like I'm being useful in any way. :wacko:

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2 hours ago, Jaspers said:

I'm not exactly sure, probably just that I don't feel like I'm being useful in any way. :wacko:

Hey, just remember: we're not tools; nobody needs a, "use." If you're concerned about helping people, than even the tinniest thing can help a lot, whatever it is you may decide to do! :kindness:

Oh, and congrats on you 2,000th brohoof! ;)

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Yeah, believe it or not, I'm a committed Scientologist. I have my buddies Tom Cruise and John Travolta to thank, it only costs $230,000 a month!

Xenu did nothing wrong. The Galactic Confederacy will strike back.

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12 hours ago, CrystalBloodMoon said:

I prefer reincarnation.

If some immature bastard won't let me into his "paradise" because I'm bi and don't believe in him, he can shove it up his backside (no offense)

Christianity never worked for me, and I was not happy being forced to believe in something I don't, and being told by my own parents that I'm a freak for not following His mold.

My mother stilll denies that she has any gay children.

And I already told her. Several times.

Any god that wants that for their creations is a total bastard who acts more controlling than they out to. Just saying.

I emphasise with you. My mother is very controlling, and I know that if I ever came out to her as pansexual and/or non-binary, that she would disown me. She has said several times that she hates gay/bi/pan people, as it is apparently not what God wants. She's always talking about the deception and the corruption in the world (such as the legalisation of gay marriage in several countries)... ._.

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17 hours ago, CrystalBloodMoon said:

I prefer reincarnation.

If some immature bastard won't let me into his "paradise" because I'm bi and don't believe in him, he can shove it up his backside (no offense)

Christianity never worked for me, and I was not happy being forced to believe in something I don't, and being told by my own parents that I'm a freak for not following His mold.

My mother stilll denies that she has any gay children.

And I already told her. Several times.

Any god that wants that for their creations is a total bastard who acts more controlling than they out to. Just saying.

Sorry to hear about that. First time I read this I was so out of it from lack of sleep I missed half of what you wrote. I didn't realize you were having such a bad time of it. 

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I believe in many things but I mostly describe myself as a pagan even though I don't really identify with any one particular pantheon or faith.  I've noticed myself being pulled to Satanism lately, don't know why?  I think it would make for a healthy spirit to study or at least read up on as many faiths as possible.  Maybe take something from one or another and make it into something that keeps you balanced spiritually.  I'm also half Indigenous so I feel that that's a big part of me as well, even though I don't really look Indigenous(white af right here...) I'm still trying to learn about that part of me too but at least I know what my spirit name is so that's pretty big for me.  

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I am a Christian.  I'm also openly & unashamedly bi-gender & bisexual (but with a definite preferance for women).  Needless to say this is not an easy path to walk, but I walk it because I believe it to be the truth, and that part of the purpose God has for me here is to get out the work that He does not, in fact, hate gays & that most of the bile that people who claim to follow him is being taken out of historical & social context (I discovered this as part of the process of finally coming to terms with being bi-gender & very rarely attracted to guys, which involved a lot of historical & anthropological research into the contemporary cultures of the middle east & Mediterranean areas at the times both the old & new testaments were written).  

Part of the reason why I didn't just abandon my faith was because I know it's ultimately true, even if certain people pervert it beyond belief, due to the fact that God directly intervened to stop me from killing myself some 16 years ago, so if He didn't exist, I wouldn't either right now.  I can understand why some people would be skeptical or dismissive of my reasons, and I respect that, nor will I judge anyone else or try to force my beliefs on them:  First of all, one of Jesus' direct commandments says that we are not to judge, because only God is worthy to do so, and secondly, you have to believe in your heart as well as confess with your mouth that Jesus is the savior to be saved, and you can't accomplish the first part by coercion, so it's pointless to even try...

I also personally believe that Biblical Literal-ism, which is unfortunately widespread these days, particularly among the more fundamentalist denominations, is not only the wrong approach in certain cases (such as the whole creation story in Genesis, which if looked at from an allegorical perspective, actually checks out with the current model for how the universe came into existence, right up to following the general order in which life evolved), and is downright dangerous if done at all without studying the historical & contemporary cultural contexts in which the Bible was written.  I mean I had a guy I know at work trying to claim that the world is actually flat, based on a hyper-literal interpretation of a few verses, which were obviously meant to be taken figuratively, based on the context, and even using a hyper-literal interpretation to come to the conclusion that the earth is flat (despite all the scientific evidence) is pushing it....

@Thuja:  I tend to agree with you on the whole "at least learning about many different faiths" thing:  I actually came to my own beliefs at around the age of 13 after studying everything from ancient Greek/Roman polytheism to Buddhism (or at least what materials were available where I live) & concluded that Christianity, absent of all the ritualistic stuff that various churches added onto it over the years, made the most sense of all of them (although Buddhism came in as a fairly close second, but certain aspects of it just didn't jive with me).  I've since had many interesting and even enlightening conversations with practicing Buddhists of various sects (I actually ran into a Buddhist Nun in Virginia who was surprised that I recognized who Kannon/Guanyin was), Hindus, and even Japanese Shinto priests, and many times, the extra perspective I gained by discussing matters of faith with them helped me understand aspects of my own better.  Hell, the regular gaming crew I hung out with when I was stationed in Virginia was a pretty mixed bag, religion-wise:  We had two Christians (including one who was an ex-Satanist), a Wiccan, a Druid and an Agnostic.

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12 minutes ago, Thuja said:

I believe in many things but I mostly describe myself as a pagan even though I don't really identify with any one particular pantheon or faith.  I've noticed myself being pulled to Satanism lately, don't know why?  I think it would make for a healthy spirit to study or at least read up on as many faiths as possible.  Maybe take something from one or another and make it into something that keeps you balanced spiritually.  I'm also half Indigenous so I feel that that's a big part of me as well, even though I don't really look Indigenous(white af right here...) I'm still trying to learn about that part of me too but at least I know what my spirit name is so that's pretty big for me.  

Man, I wish I knew my name. I've meditated on it to no end. I even ended up learning how to get to the Akashic Records Hall, and I COULDN'T READ THE NAME ON MY BOOK!!!!!!! Why??? All I know is that it may have an "X" in it, but I'm not sure

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8 minutes ago, CrystalBloodMoon said:

Man, I wish I knew my name. I've meditated on it to no end. I even ended up learning how to get to the Akashic Records Hall, and I COULDN'T READ THE NAME ON MY BOOK!!!!!!! Why??? All I know is that it may have an "X" in it, but I'm not sure

Well for me, I had a traditional healer give me my name.  I think that was the best thing I've done in years to be honest.  She came to visit my rez when I was living there so it seemed like a good idea at the time.  She also told me my spirit colours so that made me pretty happy too! :D

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