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  1. 1. Did you like or dislike the Episode?

    • This episode makes me so angry, my fury could burn a whole forest (HATE IT
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    • This episode made me want to let out a brief ring of fiery anger (Dislike it)
    • My Silence makes it hard to say whether I like this episode or not. (MEH)
    • This Episode makes me wanna make rainbows. (Like it)
    • This Episode makes me so happy I could Siiiiing! (LOVE IT)


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The episode was first announced on Zap2It. More to come as September approaches.


Title: Sounds of Silence

Airtime: September 29, 11:30am EST (United States)

Writer(s): Gregory BonSignore

Synopsis: Fluttershy and Applejack journey to the edge of the map on a Friendship Quest to help a group of ponies named Kirin -- who are so afraid of hurting each other’s feelings, they've taken a potion of silence.

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I'm really looking forward to this episode, if only because I have been wanting to see Kirin appear in the show for a while now.

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I got the feeling they chose Flutters and AJ for this episode cause the writers had nothing else for them this season! :P I hope they get the episodes they deserve next season, cause this season really cheated them!

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I'm hoping that a huge part of this episode has no dialog whatsoever and that the visuals, body expressions, and other non-verbal cues tell the story.

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Soooooo excited to see this episode.   😁

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Really like their design and the part when they flame up. I wonder if Hasbro is going to make a merchandise figure of them?

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SoS aired in Denmark this evening. Haven't watched it, but…

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According to the FIM Wiki, someone brand-new wrote it, a playwriter and lyricist named Gregory Bonsignore. I got a guess he has communications with Dubuc.

ETA: Watching it now. Don't have a clue what they're saying, but…

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Writer confirmed!

 

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I won't say much now, but…

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This is really good. Can't wait for the English version next week. ^_^

 

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Oh my god. Just saw them on Deviantart and I love the style of the Kirin. :wub:

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On ‎8‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 3:19 PM, Dark Qiviut said:

I won't say much now, but…

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This is really good. Can't wait for the English version next week. ^_^

 

You're probably get a lot sooner than you think. Nickelodeon Sweden shows it in English.

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This episode is okay. While there's nothing too bad about it, it's a very simple story and I don't think there's quite enough to support it.

Applejack and Fluttershy are charming together, but some of their interactions feel forced and artificial. Like the writers were putting so much effort into making their interactions feel natural that they end up feeling unnatural. 

Autumn Blaze has the same artificial problem. It feels like it's trying way too hard to be quirky and cute instead of actually being quirky and cute leading to a lot of bland jokes and a personality that screams "haha she's talking quickly and is really enthusiastic, isn't she so quirky?"

The structure of the episode also feels off. The episode sets it up like Applejack and Fluttershy are going to solve the problem for the Kirin, but no. Autumn Blaze is the one who ends up convincing the Kirin to talk again. All Applejack and Fluttershy do is find the plant needed for them to talk. Instead of the second act being Applejack and Fluttershy working with Autumn Blaze to make the Kirin want to talk, it's spent with Applejack and Fluttershy split up and with Fluttershy having nothing to do. The argument Applejack and Fluttershy have in the third act doesn't have enough time to be expanded upon, so it just feels pointless.

That's not to say there's nothing good here. Despite how unnatural some of their interactions are, Applejack and Fluttershy hold this episode together and make it at least mildly amusing to watch. Also, some of the jokes do work here like the crazy train conductor and Autumn's line about naming her shadow. The song also sounds great even if the lyrics feel kinda forced

Score: 4/10

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About what I was expecting from this episode:

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While there wasn't as many silent moments as I thought there would be, in the scenes where the Kirin wouldn't talk, their expressions when they do show it speak volumes. It's nice to take advantage of a visual medium like television and let the characters expression convey the thoughts instead of dialogue.

About the moral:

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It's a nice lesson that anger is natural. To quote the English Fansub: "It is just like any other feelings. It's not dangerous to have them. It's what you do with them!"

And one more thing:

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Their Nirik forms are pretty awesome and not evil, just a form of natural anger.

 

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On ‎8‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 11:59 PM, bigbertha said:
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This is a really great episode. I'd put it on the same level of "Viva Las Pegasus" as it has the same main positive; Applejack and Fluttershy.

Applejack and Fluttershy still work surprisingly well together, being very charming and fun to watch. Autumn Blaze is a very fun one off character, and she'll probably be even better when we get to hear Rachel Bloom voicing her. Autumn Blaze provides most of the comedy in the episode, but there are still a good amount of jokes aside from her, whether they come from Applejack and Fluttershy or that crazy train conductor.

At first, I thought the third act felt a bit rushed thanks to the song, but a rewatch smoothed out that issue. 

My only problem is more of a personal problem. While Applejack and Fluttershy do work well together, Fluttershy doesn't get that much screen time. I know why and that this is more of a problem of time constraints, but it still stuck out to me. 

Score: 9/10

Also 9/10

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I really love these episode as well as kirins, they are great too.

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I enjoyed this episode and now the spoilers.
 

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1) The Kirin are cute although I was surprsied Autumn Blaze had the same hair/eye colour I was going for with my avatar.

2) I loved Autumn's chirpy, bubbly, never shutting up because all she's had is the voices in her head and her own voice to keep her compnay.

3) The station master was amusing especially with his retreating into his ticket box and pulling down the bilnd.

4) Interesting how the Nirik form is just angry not necessarily out of control as demonstrated by Autumn.

5) Love the facial expressions on the various characters.

6) The various objects with faces reminded me of party of one.

7) As i mentioned elsewhere even in a world of magic the couch is hard to move alone which is sad.

8) As was the choice they gave Autumn your voice or living with us ouch.

9) The kirin do need to learn a bit of a lesson in dealing with other people given they were just going to toss Applejack and Fluttershy in the stream of silence without even asking if they would rather leave the village than lose their voice.

10) Nice happy Twilight at this being the first time the map sent the same two ponies to solve a problem.

11) I liked the way Fluttershy went from "Great you go down the dark scary forest and I"ll stay in the happy village" to looking worried as the Kirin surrounded her.

12) So the ponies speak Ponish interesting.

13) Nice Applejack/Fluttershy interaction when she was onscreen and I loved how willing Fluttershy was to raise her voice and stand her ground to her friend. She's come such a long way.

 

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And the trend of Season 8 redeeming itself in the second half continues, this was yet another delightful episode!

 

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Applejack and Fluttershy had great interactions, the lore concerning the Kirin and the Nirik was fascinating and did a great job of worldbuilding.  Autumn Breeze was a delight to watch and listen to, her song was definitely one of the better ones. The humor was also pretty spot on, though not Laugh Out Loud funny, and the moral about it being okay to  be angry so long as you cope with it in a healthy way is very well done.

My only real issue with the episode is that Fluttershy was somewhat sidelined and didn't get as much to do, I wish that a little more time was devoted to seeing how she and the Kirin interacted.

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Overall, "Sounds of Silence" is another gem of an episode, and I'll be curious if the last 3 episodes of Season 8 can keep the streak going to the end and elevate a meh season to a very solid one. 9 out of 10. 

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On 8/26/2018 at 7:35 PM, bwrosas said:

You're probably get a lot sooner than you think. Nickelodeon Sweden shows it in English.

Are  Episodes 24-26 subbed in English too?

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18 minutes ago, Theanimationfanatic said:

And the trend of Season 8 redeeming itself in the second half continues, this was yet another delightful episode!

 

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Applejack and Fluttershy had great interactions, the lore concerning the Kirin and the Nirik was fascinating and did a great job of worldbuilding.  Autumn Breeze was a delight to watch and listen to, her song was definitely one of the better ones. The humor was also pretty spot on, though not Laugh Out Loud funny, and the moral about it being okay to  be angry so long as you cope with it in a healthy way is very well done.

My only real issue with the episode is that Fluttershy was somewhat sidelined and didn't get as much to do, I wish that a little more time was devoted to seeing how she and the Kirin interacted.

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Overall, "Sounds of Silence" is another gem of an episode, and I'll be curious if the last 3 episodes of Season 8 can keep the streak going to the end and elevate a meh season to a very solid one. 9 out of 10. 

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Are  Episodes 24-26 subbed in English too?

24 is I just watched it and I believe 25-26 are as well, I'm about to watch them now. If they aren't I'll let you know.

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2 minutes ago, Senko said:

24 is I just watched it and I believe 25-26 are as well, I'm about to watch them now. If they aren't I'll let you know.

Could you provide the links for all three (assuming 25 and 26 are also in English too) please?

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15 minutes ago, Theanimationfanatic said:

Could you provide the links for all three (assuming 25 and 26 are also in English too) please?

Just go to the thread on those episodes there's a link in the first post its where I'm watching them from. 25 and 26 are both subbed.

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So far, I see only three problems:

  1. The pacing to conclude the episode feels really abrupt. Them coexist a bit after she rescued AJ and FS, but it doesn't spend a lot of time showing Autumn Blaze fully reuniting with her clan and Rain Shine as a whole. Another few seconds would help.
  2. After FS told AJ they'll only answer yes or no questions, AJ reverted to the same ol' shenanigans. It worked the first time, because neither of them understood, but here, they did, so her desperation isn't funny.
  3. The Foal's Breath flower's impact in solving the friendship problem was also a little too obvious. Fluttershy and the story spent a good amount of time arranging a little bed of flowers for the squirrels, and its brilliant gradients of blue in the middle to yellow on the tips with all that detail stands out really strongly against the dirty-looking desert. The fact that Blaze landed in a bed of identical flowers and made a tea out of them connects the dots much more.

Yet, they're both very minuscule in the thick of things. Gregory Bonsignore, an award-winning playwright and lyricist, debuted here. While Dubuc and Big Jim wrote the song and reprise, his scripting talents really shine with well-done dialogue, pleasant characterization of AJ, FS, and Autumn Blaze, and intelligently simple story. Despite its fast pacing, the script is tight and polished; everything logically flows from one point to another without being contrived. Rachel Bloom is, like every other celebrity guest for the show, excellently included. Coming into this episode, I replayed A Kirin Tale and grew to really love it. After hearing it with clarity for the first time, it's the season's best song so far.

Overall, a phenomenal episode! :D

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The first time I saw the episode (well, actually I saw the thumbnail of Autumn Blaze forcing AJ's muzzle into a wide smile, gave me shivers), I automatically began to like it. I only grew a little frustrated with AJ when she didn't just take advice to always use 'yes or no' questions, and when she first met Autumn, I instantly found her cheerul and SO darn adorable. (I think the little design on the bridge of her muzzle really sells the adorability feature), and I liked how she seemed so happy to have someone visiting her after so long. A Kirin Tale was such a wonderful song, and I noticed how despite the episode description mentioned a POTION of silence. They waded into the river to become silent.

 

In short, I am in love with Autumn and this episode. 

 

Season 8's saving grace, after...some intolerable episodes (coughthemaudcouplecough).

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"nothing but uncharted terrain and wild beasts that way

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHhaha."

anyway I loved this episode.

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