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Do you like Starlight Glimmer?


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Do you like Starlight Glimmer?  

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  1. 1. Do you like Starlight?

    • Yes, she's awesome and so beautiful!
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    • No, she tried to kill everypony and I'll never forgive her for that!
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Oh my Celestia, so sensitive topic. My opinion and feelings towards Her are described in my two blogs. I'll just compare that walltexts in the blogs to: I love Her since reformation and nothing will change that.

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On 9/6/2018 at 11:12 AM, DivineLuna1000 said:

I think she's a great pony, and glad that she decided it was better to make friends with ponies rather than harm them.

She led the charge of probably the "deepest" episode ever where she was first introduced. And gosh, did she bring an interesting new dynamic to the show.

Anyone else kind of get the feeling too that out of all the characters she's most like what a human would end up being like  if suddenly displaced to Equestria? Wanting to embrace everything but also feeling really insecure because of past trauma.

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I like Starlight a lot. She's honestly trying to be better, and her little backslides along the way show she is learning. (Don't use magic to compel friends to do things!) A lot of people think otherwise, but in my opinion, her crimes against Equestria didn't actually happen. She was able to use her time spell to make everything not happen. She's a good mare at heart, and I love that Twilight made her a guidance counselor at the school. She'll learn a lot about friendship by helping young creatures with their own problems. I also think that in some ways, she has become Twilight's closest friend. The mentor bond is very strong, as we've seen with Celestia and Twilight.

 

I love Starlight Glimmer!  

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I loved her as a complex and engaging villainess. I like her significantly less as Twilight's doppelganger. She's too similar to Twilight nowadays to be interesting as her own unique character, especially since she gets too many scenes and storylines that should have gone to Twi. I do appreciate that she has some shortcomings and falters from time to time; those flaws give her some dimension. But it's not enough to make me a fan. 

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I enjoy Starlight Glimmer's character. She is honest, blunt (which I can appreciate), powerful, and just an overall interesting pony. I used to dislike her but now she is easily one of my top favorite characters of the show.

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As long as you change and you fix what you done, which Starlight did, then everything's fine. Starlight is actually a really great pony right now and obviously would do anything for her friends and the good of Equestria. What more can you ask?

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Nope. 

She COULD of been good, but honestly her redemption arc was very weak and she's obviously just a replacement and acts like pre-princess Twilight. Not to mention she gets away with a lot of stuff that she shouldn't, like brain washing Twilight's friends and then swapping Luna and Celestia's cutiemarks. 

If you want a redemption arc done right, look at Sunset. The school was still wary of trusting her because she DID do bad things. However, Starlight's village just insta-forgave her even though she didn't do anything to make it up to them.

And quite honestly there have been situations where they made her the only solution when it shouldn't of been a case. Like the season 6 finale when EVERYONE, Mane 6, princesses, Flurry Heart, Shining Armor, were all taken out off screen. 

 

So yeah. Could've been good but it wasn't handled well comparatively.

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On 9/22/2018 at 6:33 AM, Gainsborough said:

you want a redemption arc done right, look at Sunset

I wouldn't say that Sunset's redemption arc was done right or even a better one than Starlight's. True, people didn't instantly forgive her but she practically changed her entire personality over night. Say what you want about Starlight, but at least the feel like the same character as she was pre-redemtion. 

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3 hours ago, Sun Wukong said:

I wouldn't say that Sunset's redemption arc was done right or even a better one than Starlight's. True, people didn't instantly forgive her but she practically changed her entire personality over night. Say what you want about Starlight, but at least the feel like the same character as she was pre-redemtion. 

I agree. Sunset's redemption really had insufficient screen time, given the limited movie runtimes - though she was never really much of a villain to start with. Her initial presentation was as an ambitious and ruthless climber who used people as stepping stones (not unlike a certain S8 pony) but who tried to steal power (in the form of Twilight's crown) to get a boost, and at least now claims that she was overwhelmed by the magic and (as with those native to that world overwhelmed by Equestrian magic), became focussed on achieving her dominant goal though that power; we see that time and again, with SciTwi, with Gloriosa, and with Sunset herself in the Friendship games where her focus is on saving everybody, even SciTwi.

Yet after one encounter with the Rainbow Bitchslap of Harmony, that all changed - she was, at her core, a nice person, who only wanted to make amends. She started out (understandably) hated by the students - only the open and freely given support of the humane 5 helped her though that initial period, and even Twilight herself was reluctant to trust her at first after her return though the portal. She "earned her wings" by helping Twi and the humane 5 defeat the sirens, but I think the only way the whole thing makes sense is that it was the friendship and support of the humane 5 that really caused the change, which is reenforced when you see her backsliding in "forgotten friendship" and being willing to dare anything, even confronting Celestia, in an attempt to regain their friendship and trust.

Contrast with Starlight (who really IS a drastically different pony) and while the power of friendship here again shows its worth in her recovery, the route there was very different. Starlight was never ambitious - she was content with her single friendship, and when she was abandoned cruelly by Sunburst, she closed in upon herself - blaming the cutie mark Sunburst received for her loss, she set about building a world where nopony had a cutie mark, or a special talent, or ANYTHING to make them different - and succeeded for a time, until the Tree (and of course the mane 6) took that from her. In that loss, she found a new purpose - to destroy the mane 6 and return her to her coping mechanism. And she would have succeeded with the former - to stop her was beyond Twilight's power. But she would not have achieved the latter - all her paths led to just making her loss even more irrevocable - and she was reminded that ultimately it wasn't her goal anyhow, but her coping mechanism - which begs the question why she didn't go back and fix her original loss instead, but apparently she wasn't thinking too clearly.

At the moment of her acceptance of this, she goes though anger, hope and fear - anger that Twilight had just destroyed her entire purpose, hope that she could start again and make new friends, and fear that it would fail again. She is a pony whose life has just been utterly destroyed, and who has no plan on how to rebuild. At her lowest then, Twilight again reaches out, as she had with Sunset, and offers a lifeline - with not only the mane 6 for support but a place in ponyville to stay, a social position many would have sacrified anything to achieve, and the active assistance of the somewhat incompetent Twilight in rebuilding her life.  Twilight follows though, as do the rest of the mane 6 - we see a montage of each bringing her into their private worlds, along with Twilight escorting her back to Equality Village to make her apologies, and indeed, Starlight is in a MUCH better position than Sunset; while Sunset still needs to live down her infamy (not only her actions while under the influence of the crown's power, but her actions going back years) Starlight is a powerful young unicorn that has arrived out of nowhere to become Twilight's Pupil (at least in the eyes of the Ponyville ponies) so while she might attract a bit of jealousy, there is certainly no reason for the citizens there to be prejudiced against her.. but her own fears that they might find out, and her own knowledge of her dark past, lead to her unlikely alliance with Trixie. Starlight's redemption therefore is to be entirely in the eyes of the one pony she blamed for her loss in the previous season - Twilight Sparkle - and in her own mind.  By the end of S6, she still clearly hasn't forgiven herself, and even when she has an award from Celestia and Twilight's public approval of her, she still fears it can all be taken away by one bad move.  It is therefore unclear if Starlight's redemption arc really has completed its course (although you could probably say the same for Sunset, given her deference to Twilight even in recent specials) and I think it would be unfair to say Starlight's personality didn't change radically between seasons 5 and 6 - from an obscessive and self-confident pony to a hesitating, self-doubting one, which is understandable given the massive change in her life goals (the same argument can be made for Sunset, of course)

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