Are bronies furries by default?

[The Plagued Pony 8]

Here's a question that has been on my mind for a while.  Are bronies, furries?  They both have ocs, animal characters, ect.

[Latecomer 438]

Some are, and some aren't.

[Stardust 640]

Many are just the fans of the show so nope. Furries is appreciation of anthro characters in general and usually more the two legged ones. Most ppl who are furry also particpate in some way like art, socialising or whatever.

Otherwise like a lot of ppl would be furry lol 

Though I'd say a lot of sonic fans edge towards being furry 

[Kamii 594]

The way I see it, furries are people who have an interest in anthropomorphic animals. The ponies in the show talk, clearly a human trait. So, in my eyes, we're all furries.

It all really depends on the "interest" but I'd say any kind of it counts 

[The Kaeya Simp 13,953]

bronies are furries but not all furries are bronies

[RDDash 18,842]

Ponies are not Disney anthro-morphic so nope.

[dead account 2,703]

Is it possible to be a furry, when you don't like anthros, but still like stylized animal characters like our beloved ponies or The Lion King characters for example? I know most is about the anthros, but making things human-like in shape ruins their natural beauty for me. The furry community is still the closest I know and you see some animal art inbetween.

[SharpWit 2,472]

Being a Brony does not make you a furry, and neither does having an animal OC or an anthro one given the right context. The MLP community is one of many that is tolerant enough to be inclusive of furries. On this site it's really just about behaving one's self.

Pony OCs don't count because their species is part of a greater aspect of worldbuilding. This is lessened however by the increased diversity of other creatures, particularly bipedal ones. Iron Will is technically half man, half bull, but creating a minotaur OC wouldn't mean anything because they're a mythical creature with lore. Dragons kind of teeter on the edge when they're young, but can be given a pass as they became our classic giant beasts eventually. The Abyssinian Cats are where I kind of have to draw a line on pandering.

It's one thing to have a nonhuman dominant species in a unique world setting. It's another to humanize animals and lump them together, like say Zootopia. That movie however explores a fantastic alternate reality rather than just go about business as usual. There's concepts that can be dug into deeply, and potentially lessons to learn from them. You don't get that from typical furry media.

[Venomous 18,813]

@The Plagued Pony

Altered this thread’s title to give it proper context, as the original title was too vague. Also, I have moved it to Sugarcube Corner. This is where the fandom is discussed.

[Sepul-Coloratura 756]

I’d say if you had to guess who is a furry between non-bronies and bronies, a brony would be more likely to be a furry. If you seriously can’t even kinda see why, I don’t have an explanation for that. We all kinda know why. It’s just that not all bronies are furries, not all furries are bronies.

[Splashee 28,537]

On 6/20/2020 at 9:40 AM, The Plagued Pony said:

Here's a question that has been on my mind for a while.  Are bronies, furries?  They both have ocs, animal characters, ect.

No, just like other groups of people, many share similar attributes. But you can never assume they are all the same. Need to go through sub-categories etc.

 

I am not a furry. I don't like anthropomorphic animal characters. I think animals are cute, in some cases very cool. I also think humans are cool, but the more hairy, the more disgusted I feel. It's just I don't prefer it.

I am a Brony though. I like colorful ponies, usually see them as plastic entities rather than furry animals. The more fur, the more animal they get. I don't see MLP ponies as animals, or pets.

[Megas 27,045]

Bronies are just furries in denial

[Fluttershutter 2,111]

 I honestly still don't get what makes someone "a furry" but there seems to be constant obsession with whether or not people are furries. I just don't get it. 

[Dark Qiviut 22,160]

No. Bronies and furries have completely different sources of identification, making them completely different fandoms. Bronies are nothing more than fans of Friendship Is Magic, and what they like about the show varies from person to person. Furries are more about being a fan of the anthropomorphic concept. Many bronies are furries, but not all bronies are furries, and not all furries are bronies.

Edited June 22, 2020 by Dark Qiviut

[Stardust 640]

On 6/20/2020 at 5:24 PM, SharpWit said:

It's one thing to have a nonhuman dominant species in a unique world setting. It's another to humanize animals and lump them together, like say Zootopia. That movie however explores a fantastic alternate reality rather than just go about business as usual. There's concepts that can be dug into deeply, and potentially lessons to learn from them. You don't get that from typical furry media.

What about anime like bna (humans that have animal forms) and beastars, I thought those did explore quite a few themes.

Any furry media purely for furries is usually not so good, though there are interesting stories about lgbt relationships and some webcomics but usually those are still general audience. Then there is a lot of "furry" content that is really just purely for kids. 

Or there are comics which use "furry" characters to tell serious sometimes semi non fiction stories. 

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Also lol the thread title has changed kinda changes the question a bit ;P 

I dun see the furry by default thing as real. I mean I guess once you really get into a certain style of art you do kinda get into furry.

But there are so many artists who draw anthropomorphic animals and cartoons and stuff who wouldn't really be considered furry. It does depend what u mean but furry to me either refers to a certain character style or those in the community. Even having an animal oc on deviant art as being furry is stretching it.

And yea honestly some furries do really dislike mlp lol

 

[SharpWit 2,472]

@flurry I'm not familiar with bna, but I did watch Saberspark's review of Beastars, which I'd consider to be sitting right on the line when it comes to what does and doesnt count as furry media, because it has a world building aspect to it that the furry Fandom itself lacks. There doesn't appear to be much more than the anthropomorphic aspect that unites them without going into things I'd prefer not to.

But then there's things like the classic Disney's Robin Hood which inspired many furries. Would that count as furry media if it were made today? I'd say the answer is no because there are several animal anthropomorphic animal characters on children's shows, and those seen in Robin Hood are representative of character traits. A lion for a king, a wolf for the aggressive sheriff, and a fox for our heroic trickster. The animals have roles to fill visually based on traditional story telling. Furry media will sometimes include these traits but it's not the the sole reasoning for a design.

There's also the Maus graphic novels, where the author tells the story of what his father had to go through as a polish jew during the second world war. He uses aspects of stereotypes and the roles of nations for what animal someone is portrayed as. The French are Frogs and the Polish are pigs because of legs and sausage, bit the jews are victim to the nazis, so they're mice to the nation of big scary cats, and in turn the Americans are shown as dogs. They're anthropomorphic animals, but it's not furry media.

[Stardust 640]

2 hours ago, SharpWit said:

@flurry I'm not familiar with bna, but I did watch Saberspark's review of Beastars, which I'd consider to be sitting right on the line when it comes to what does and doesnt count as furry media, because it has a world building aspect to it that the furry Fandom itself lacks. There doesn't appear to be much more than the anthropomorphic aspect that unites them without going into things I'd prefer not to.

But then there's things like the classic Disney's Robin Hood which inspired many furries. Would that count as furry media if it were made today? I'd say the answer is no because there are several animal anthropomorphic animal characters on children's shows, and those seen in Robin Hood are representative of character traits. A lion for a king, a wolf for the aggressive sheriff, and a fox for our heroic trickster. The animals have roles to fill visually based on traditional story telling. Furry media will sometimes include these traits but it's not the the sole reasoning for a design.

There's also the Maus graphic novels, where the author tells the story of what his father had to go through as a polish jew during the second world war. He uses aspects of stereotypes and the roles of nations for what animal someone is portrayed as. The French are Frogs and the Polish are pigs because of legs and sausage, bit the jews are victim to the nazis, so they're mice to the nation of big scary cats, and in turn the Americans are shown as dogs. They're anthropomorphic animals, but it's not furry media.

If beastars isn't furry i'm not sure what is lol. It is at least by character design standards very furry. It does use the idea of animals in a clever way which does go beyond just having anthro characters for the sake of it. The show is highly loved by a lot of furries and such. Sure you could say the same about pokemon and that where people like target the anthro characters. Tbh not sure what furry media is meant to mean anyway. Maybe zootopia fits it better but when you put it to that there isn't very much that would count as furry at all, and under that definition I wouldn't even count zootopia as furry since it is more of just a tribute to robin hood and animal cartoons. I think it just becomes very subjective at that point.  bna isn't very furry in the sense it has people who become animals but it does have many fans who are furry at least.

And really just anything that is churned out directly by the fandom is more about appreciating character design and things like shipping and that. And fursona is designed around a real person so is more appreciation of each other or real world aspects rather than too much fantasy. Though there are sci fi stories and such sometimes (and the nsfw whatever). And no offense that story stuff is usually terrible for the most part. A lot of furries look to shows like aggretsuko and game characters to take inspiration.

Whether they be strictly furry or whatever. I guess furries are just fans who like certain sorts of characters.

 

Edited June 22, 2020 by flurry

[EpicEnergy 22,060]

I don't think they are, but that's just my opinion.

[The Plagued Pony 8]

On 6/21/2020 at 2:52 AM, Bakugou is my Man said:

@The Plagued Pony

Altered this thread’s title to give it proper context, as the original title was too vague. Also, I have moved it to Sugarcube Corner. This is where the fandom is discussed.

Thank you.

[ShadOBabe 18,984]

Depends on the definition. The one I’m most familiar with is, “A furry is someone who is a fan of anthropomorphic animals.”

Something being anthropomorphic means that it is a non-human with human traits. The ponies are human in basically EVERY way, except for appearance.

Ponies are animals and they are anthropomorphized, so yeah, if you like them you technically fall under the furry definition I mentioned above.

That said, you can always reject labels. There are plenty of people that like MLP, but hate the Brony label. So even though they fall under the definition of “adult fan of MLP”, they don’t call themselves Bronies.

Edited June 24, 2020 by ShadOBabe

[OG CHUCK 64]

can i ask a question why furry are so obsess with the idea that we all part of there fandom because basically we are not furrys ?

On 6/21/2020 at 1:57 PM, Megas said:

Bronies are just furries in denial

sorry but bronys are not furry we are our own fandom is fact

[Splashee 28,537]

Everyone is a little bit hairy by default, yes. In a sense.

[ExplosionMare 18,007]

I don’t consider myself one cause I personally think the furry community is a little creepy. I know a lot of Bronies are furries, though.

[rainbowdashacademy 114]

OH, yes my Spiky Wiky I Rarity darling know he's a furry too !  HAAAA yes of course the horse of course are all magical furry loving creatures by your own fantasy there is nothing wrong with whatever furry just be furry pride and furry proud in your heart maybe someday some pony will dress Like Yak Yona  just try not to crash through walls or break merchandise and have good time !

[baba_booey 4,299]

As a furry myself, I personally see bronies as more of a dedicated fandom towards MLP:FiM whereas I see furries as more of a hobby or that sort of thing. I wouldn't consider bronies furries by default (it'd honestly be like saying Sonic the Hedgehog fans are automatically furries or something), although I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who have gotten involved with the furry fandom based on their experience with the brony fandom even other than me.