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Do You Think School Should Not Be Mandatory/Compulsory?


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  1. 1. Do you think school should not be mandatory?

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    • no
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  2. 2. What grades should be mandatory, if any?

    • elementary school grades
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    • middle school grades
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    • high school grades
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    • no grades
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I'm curious who here supports mandatory education and who doesn't.

Also, what grades of school do you think should be mandatory, if any?

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I think education up to adulthood should be mandatory, but the current education system we've got is largely pointless. Learning about taxes, the government, basic history, basic math, English, physical and mental health, life skills, etc.? That stuff is important for everyone. At least half of the junk required in school isn't.

There should really only be a few required core classes each year that prepare you for the world, with the rest being exploratory so you know what career you want once they let you loose into the world. Basically like college, except you're not locked into a specific department. You want to take a welding class, a law class, a woodworking class, and a web design class in the same year? Go for it. That would be more helpful than teaching every high schooler trig.

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Nice phrasing of that first question. 

Anyways I look at my grandparents: they went on and off(farm work) up to 8th grade and did fine, some very well in life. 

Now if it actually taught you about life, I would say yes make it mandatory, but anything I've been taught there...hasn't really helped.

Yes there are thing all should know, but they clearly do not teach them well today. Then it seemed to me that once you hit college you had to start over at 9th grade again, no matter your scores and grades. Then after you take those generals and crap then you can actually take what you're interested in...starting at the "explain it to a 2 year old" level. Then again that can be the US's lovely system. 

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Please understand that school is not mandatory at all..... Good luck finding a job though....

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No it should not be mandatory, at any grade. Apparently the prevailing consensus is that a lack of schooling will result in ignorant people who will grow up and become dependent on public support. This is absurd, assumes all people are incapable and overrates the benefits of public schooling, which is increasingly responsible for doing far more harm than good to its students. Basics like reading, writing and arithmetic are necessary and should be taught by the parents. I don’t care who says parents are too busy because that’s part of what parenting is about; teaching and preparing children to be self-sufficient. Schools waste too much time throttling kids with useless subjects that they’ll never use in real life. Even students with good grades will forget unused information anyway, rendering countless hours of cramming just to pass final exams essentially pointless.

College should be about learning the special skills applied to areas of interest chosen by the student to apply toward a career, and shouldn’t be bogged down by added courses required and dictated by colleges to make more money. The girl who cuts my hair said she took a hairdressing course but was further required to take a psychology course so she could handle ‘chatting to her clients’ while styling their hair! That’s just gouging for money on the part of the college. If there’s any concern about ‘ignorant’ people becoming a liability to society, then education, including college, should be free or at least a matter of strictly elective subjects. From there it’s up to any prospective employer to decide whether a person is qualified at their chosen career path.

When a person isn’t forced to cram for tests, simultaneously study so many subjects that they can’t retain any of them and even spend additional hours with homework, their minds open up and become very receptive to information. By nature, human beings want to learn; it’s enjoyable and addictive. It doesn’t have to be difficult and most times we’re learning when we don’t even realize it. If schools weren’t forced on people by law, there would be a lot more intelligent people, able to think and reason logically on their own, rather than the indoctrinated mass of emotionally beaten people churned out by the system today. School as a template for teaching en masse has never been effective and becomes even worse with every generation. The average IQ has been declining with each decade steadily since the mid ‘70s and stands as a testament to the fact that school isn’t preventing liabilities to society but creating them.

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I think that giant tests at least should not be mandatory. They cause way too much unnecessary stress. If you wanna test someone’s knowledge, have them apply it to something real (like if they read a book, have them discuss it in their own words).

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I believe schooling should be mandatory, at least up until Middle School. If you struggle through Elementary and Middle school, then High School isn't gonna be any easier for you.

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Lol it will never change though.

Privatize it all, and make kids want to go to school by making it more engaging and practical.

I'm personally already kinda baffled by the fact that even in college you still have to take courses like history or some other social studies courses (albeit these were the most fun for me in college but that doesn't matter), when you've already taken about.... 12 years of it in high school. Wasn't it enough to learn it in high school? Was that not enough? Shouldn't college be trimmed down so that all courses you take are directly related to your profession you wish to excel in and you don't spend so much money on it? I digress.

Oof, gotta go :wacko: .

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I don't believe that anything should be manditory

however, i don't believe that you'll have much luck when it comes to finding jobs, especially in this modern society

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If school didn't feel like it was grooming kids to be cogs in a machine, I would see some kind of point in it being mandatory, but at least in the US, school is basically a factory that slowly builds workers to supplement those at the top.

I've learned more on my own time online in the past decade than I ever did from school. Sure school taught me the bare minimum basics but never did I have an opportunities to do anything that matters or have any real motivation. Being forced to spend 7-8 hours of my day on mind numbing sludge never was a motivation for me to "learn". I think that it either shouldn't be mandatory or make school days much shorter and more focused. 

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I'm not into compulsion. If it weren't mandatory almost all parents would choose to send their kids to school anyway. I'd say not giving them SOME kind of education is tantamount to child abuse.

It would be much better if schools weren't government run kid processing centers and people had more options to learn about their interests in ways that were easier for them.

And then there's college. :Cozy: People don't need four five years of extra classroom time to be qualified to be trained for some desk job but the business world has been convinced they do.

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Elementary school is considered fundamental for a reason. Middle/high school is preparing students for unis/colleges, etc, so I think it should be half-mandatory. Ability to choose what subjects to study in depth is needed

Seeing people from my parallel in-depth humanitarian class struggling with basica of math analysis is funny, but do they really need it? Will they ever use this knowledge in life?

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It should be mandatory, yes but a lot of things need to be changed. For starters all schools should be privatized and students should have the choice to go anywhere they want for school no matter what. The school system we use in the modern day was made from the 1800's and is made to make students factory workers. This needs to change. Students get yelled at for collaborating on assignments or talking during class. This is not the way it should be as in the real world, you must collaborate and communicate with people. High school is where it is really pointless as students are forced to take classes that have no affect on their future / classes.

On the topic of courses that are mandated in school the majority of them are worthless. If you aren't doing anything science related in the future you shouldn't be mandated to take those courses, same with English. History I think is the most important of all classes as it is important to learn the past to avoid the mistakes of those that came before us to create a better future. But in the United States the quality of education is absolutely horrendous and is taught from an erroneous perspective. This entire system needs to be uprooted, heavily scrutinized, and then reformed and changed from the bottom up.

Elementary and middle school should teach the basics of the 'core' subjects you need while high school should be more focused on what you want to do in the future. I would remove the 'credit' requirements to graduate. A student should not be picking classes on what they need to have for graduation, they should pick it because they are interested and want to learn. I'd probably have a mandatory class for learning about taxes, government, communication skills, and a health class though. Otherwise, let students pick what they want to pick and the mandatory of Science, Math, and English courses should be removed. If a student wants to take it, let them, if not, don't force it down their throat. Its not the school's future, it is the student's. 

Large tests should be removed. You forget the knowledge you learn after the test, so to learn it in that manner is wasteful and stupid. You also sit around after those tests, so it is also wasting time as well. The system of education should not be based around tests or numerical grades, but rather application of the learned material into the student's life or possibly even job opportunities and the like. 

College? Well, thats great. Just remove the bullshit. You should not have to take classes that have no bearing on what you want to major in. Remove all the bullshit about majoring. If you want to take school online you should have a majorly reduced college loan as you are not actually attending college. Why is college so expensive and wasteful of time? It shouldn't be. Needs to be changed. 

I don't believe the government should be influencing student's minds. All schools should be private, but should be held to these standards and requirements of operating of schools. Actually hire teachers that WANT to teach, rather than some dumb fucks who don't know what they are doing or whatever else. Teachers should get a higher wage to keep them happy and eliminate the teacher's unions that are poisoning education. 

Remove the competitiveness, who cares about competing in schools for grades? That's just stupid. Schools should be soley talored to the individual's interests for the future, and nothing else. Also remove the 'prestigousness' about schooling. Who cares if so and so went to this school, or went to harvard or whatever? It's just common elitist thinking that really needs to stop. 

For school programs the majority of them suck, if we are going to be using online programs we should actually be using ones not prone to errors or stupid layouts and templates.

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Education is important, should it be mandatory I believe that it should be at least elementary. Though any type of brainwashing that happens in public schools should be illegal. Higher levels of education should not be mandatory. While I believe in the importance of education, I dislike the goverments involvement in it. Many times during my times of studying I've felt the true intention is to influence people to think certain ways essentially brainwashing them. There is not much desire for critical thinking, however critical thinking is a sign of high intelligence so to not reward that isn't that strange to anyone really. 

If schools cared more about teaching, education and using actual methods of research opposed to just buying everything at face value as they expect people to do then education wouldn't have to be mandatory as everyone would want to study.

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I think education should be mandatory, but there should be far less required classes, especially in high school. The majority of classes should be electives tailored to the individual student's interests and future plans. If that were the case, I think the teens and young adults of today would be more motivated and less burned out.

I also think the current school system lasts a year longer than it needs to. By the end of 11th grade, you've already taken all of the main required courses, and it's kind of ridiculous to be a legal adult and still required to be in high school. Of course, maybe that's influenced by the fact that 12th grade for me was ruined by the pandemic, but I still think my point stands.

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Another thing: I think classes should be based more around projects, not tests. That way, students are encouraged to apply the information they learn, instead of just regurgitating it and forgetting it immediately after.

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Schooling should indeed be mandatory and mandatory until adulthood as it is now, but I believe there's a lot in the average curriculum that can be radically overhauled. Much of what is taught is fine, (with some historical inaccuracies, particular in elementary school kids, needing a beating with the truth stick in almost every country...) but how it's taught needs a closer look as each kid grows. Nobody learns the same way, and I feel like so many kids end up with poor grades and no self-confidence because nobody teaching them can take the time to figure out how to reach them. It's not always the teacher's fault- in fact I'd say in my experience it hardly ever is. Most of them want their lessons to sink in but don't have the tools or the time to make it happen.

Anyway, I do think that while it's most important for schooling to be a part of a person's life in their most formative years, I also think formative is, at least in some part, a relative term to any time before that person becomes an adult. I do feel like learning must be more dynamic and also a student's desires should be more of a factor when they're in their later teens but to not be learning at least something in the prime time of your life for learning is just self-destructive intellectual sabotage in my opinion.

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No. I think school should be mandatory. Children need to learn as much as they can until they are able to graduate at age 18 - 20. School is important. Why would anyone want to quit school and not earn a high school diploma? My mom for example was that kind of person. 

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I think kids need to have attend or have some form of education yeah at least in the younger years, what it is could be up to debate, but they should also be allowed to take breaks or skip lessons if they need to. 

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