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Jon the VGNerd

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Over the years, YouTube has been gradually getting worse and worse, which ranges from being falsely banned to having videos removed unexpectedly because of "copyright violations", along with not getting paid at all, regardless of the number of views accumulated through videos posted. Let's not forget the comment section which are incredibly hostile and toxic, to the point where YouTube themselves can't be bothered to moderate them, much less ban people for deliberately causing problems. Yet they have no problems in wrongfully banning off people for the most asinine reasons while letting actual trolls get away with it. And even if they're somehow banned, they can create new channels and evade said ban altogether.

Even small-time YouTubers are at risk of having their channels erased off by YouTube because not only are they not getting paid at all (or better yet, not getting enough views or subscribers no matter their potential), they're completely overshadowed by far bigger YouTubers such as *cough*PewDiePie*cough*, who have over 100+ million subscribers altogether. Worse yet, YouTube likes to manipulate on search algorithms to ensure that the results you wanted are not the ones you'd expect. Also, no way to watch movies without having to actually pay for it because of their BS regulations in terms of regions. And even if you do manage to buy it, good luck sharing them. Because YouTube won't allow you to do just that. Only you and you alone can watch the movies you bought and therefore cannot be viewed by others. I also forgot to mention; they are incredibly trigger-happy when it comes to striking down videos, especially when it comes to copyrighted music. There are actual, copyrighted music shown on YouTube but in video games, or other miscellaneous stuff? Taken down, no negotiations, end of story, enjoy your ban. YouTube limits people in uploading movies to YouTube because movie makers are either incredibly selfish or YouTube hates legitimate movies altogether.

Let's not forget YouTube Kids. Why does it even exist to begin with? It has no business in ever being in the main YouTube site, just by deliberately flagging videos as such by labelling YouTube Kids to ensure that no one is allowed to comment. They should've made YouTube Kids as a standalone site (like kids.youtube.com) instead of forcefully adding it to the main site. But its clear enough that the guys at YouTube are increasingly tone-deaf who outright refuse to listen to the people despite them obviously objecting to YouTube's move. Even on Twitter YouTube ignores these kinds of responses, because they knew they dropped the ball, but they don't give a damn about it. It only makes them smile in the most disgusting manner. Sure YouTube can be sued, but there's a problem; they're backed by Google and if that were to happen, Google can very easily bribe them out of a lawsuit so that YouTube can very easily get away with the s**t they've intentionally caused. And unless there's new management to completely overhaul YouTube altogether, or a new competitor that can put an end to YouTube's totalitarian nature and permanently shut it down altogether. The YouTube we knew and love is long dead because they have went corporate to ensure people are limited to what they can do.

Even other YouTubers know that YouTube themselves have become China of video sharing website, meaning they're incredibly restrictive and will ban anyone they see fit, whether they've broken the rules or not. As much as I love to see YouTube meet their eventual demise, I've yet to see it happen so it'll take a sheer miracle to have YouTube be struck with an unwinnable lawsuit that not even Google can pay their way out of it. Until then, this site is just a burning fire that won't be put down that easily.

(If this counts as a Vent, you're free to move it, though this is about YouTube, which should fall under Media Discussions.)

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I forgot to mention that if you post comments on YouTube and it contains swearing, it will never go through to the comment section yet you see people having their comments posted with obvious profanity. This is YouTube with their obvious hypocrisy at its finest.

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Of course not, because there's no alternatives! And the way they treat their creators is fine because they're only banning people with opinions I don't like! Those small-time creators who break their backs to make actual content with substance need to get real jobs! I'm so glad Google bought Youtube, or else Youtube wouldn't get so many views! You guys just hate that they got bought out because you're jealous of the man's success, and the man's right to exert his power over you! :mlp_icwudt: 

This is what people who pretend to be fighting for the little guy actually believe. :yeahno: Still, one thing I think they'd be right about is that Youtube isn't going away any time soon, even with its drop in activity. Every alternative website is still in the rough. 

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1 minute ago, CloudMistDragon said:

Of course not, because there's no alternatives! And the way they treat their creators is fine because they're only banning people with opinions I don't like! Those small-time creators who break their backs to make actual content with substance need to get real jobs! I'm so glad Google bought Youtube, or else Youtube wouldn't get so many views! You guys just hate that they got bought out because you're jealous of the man's success, and the man's right to exert his power over you! :mlp_icwudt: 

This is what people who pretend to be fighting for the little guy actually believe. :yeahno: Still, one thing I think they'd be right about is that Youtube isn't going away any time soon, even with its drop in activity. Every alternative website is still in the rough. 

Here's the problem though; YouTube are actually banning the wrong people while letting the trolls roam free. And again, even if they were banned, they can still make new accounts anyway. Of course it isn't going away yet because a lot of people are using it. However, wait until they end up making yet another bad decision that's considered mandatory that will lead to a massive backlash. And the smaller creators get far less views and subscribers, to the point where its impossible to earn money, thanks to the constant, intrusive ads YouTube continues to shove everyone's faces with.

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Nope. YouTube has been a prime showcase that no matter how shitty a giant corporation is, they will thrive regardless and take in the money. Thus is the way of capitalism. The sheer amount of terrible people on the platform is depressing but the worst channels often make the most money. Badabun is a horrible channel with 10's of millions subscribers (who also use the "YouTube Kids" shit to prevent criticism) and they steal content and claim it as their own. What does YouTube do? Absolutely fuck all. They allow that thievery to happen because it is making them tons of ad revenue either way. YouTube is terrible but in capitalism, being terrible is exactly how you maintain your immense riches. 

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As much as we complain about YouTube all we want for all of the terrible decisions they made over the years, I don't think YouTube is gonna shut down anytime soon and they make tons of money. Whatever we want to accept it or not, that's just the nature of the business.

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It's a real shame that, unless there's an alternative site that can definitely put YouTube in their place, YouTube will continue to thrive and get away with it (along with shoving people with invasive ads without the use of Adblock and uBlock), because even with massive lawsuits, Google could very easily pay off lawyers to ensure that YouTube continues on until something big happens to them.

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I'm just angry that they changed the algorithm just today, and killed my YouTube Downloader! The "Download" button it adds vanished. That, as they say, SUCKS! 

 

I hear the creators of the Firefox add-on are working on it. Hopefully it will be back soon.

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Youtube is BS from top to bottom. Even for those who want to post something legitimately by contacting copyright owners for permission, the big companies summarily ignore all correspondence by the ‘little people’ who aren’t prestigious enough to merit a moment of their time. But as soon as anyone posts something that isn’t even legally prohibited, the big companies swoop down with threats of legal action, even when they have no grounds. Youtube will cancel the people posting on the assumption that they must be wrong and the big money conglomerates must be right. No investigation, just arbitrary lockdowns on perfectly legitimate and legal videos. Youtube constantly grabs more and more money off the posters, who are the backbone that made the company what it is, and even adds commercials throughout the videos they spent nothing to provide. And then they turn around and screw the same regular posters that are keeping the dollars rolling in. But that’s the way it is with giant companies like YT; once they get too big, no one even tries to govern them, legally or morally.

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No company that big, with all the money and influence they have, is ever going to go under, no matter how rotten they are or how many people they screw. We've seen it before; money equals monopoly equals doing anything they want without restriction. 

Law? Morality? Decency? What are those? 

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4 hours ago, Jon the VGNerd said:

Well, its a start, at least.

But like mentioned before, there’s no real alternative to YT. However, it’s possible that with so many screwups, a decent alternative may rise in time. Such thing will have to deal with Goggle’s beefgate if it wanna get through

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Every time I play a YouTube video I'm invested in, I'm denied right away with two ads:angry:  Playing the video in the middle of very interesting points, two ads deny me:glimmer: of this beloved video several times:Cozy:  

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4 hours ago, ZiggWheelsManning said:

Every time I play a YouTube video I'm invested in, I'm denied right away with two ads:angry:  Playing the video in the middle of very interesting points, two ads deny me:glimmer: of this beloved video several times:Cozy:  

That's why AdBlock and uBlock exists. YouTube's obsession with ads show that they do not care about everyone except their greedy profits.

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On 2021-05-20 at 11:04 AM, Fluttershutter said:

Is everybody finding that ad blocker doesn't work anymore?

That's what uBlock Origin is for. Seems YouTube is finding a way to bypass AdBlock Plus. Also this:

 

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Will it happen at some point in the near or not so near future, absolutely (and I hope for that day, fuck youtube)

are there alternatives, yes (dailymotion comes to mind),

are they as accessable as youtube, no.
do they have the content library of youtube, no, or Youtube wouldn't exist anymore

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So I just got news that YouTube were going to remove the dislike feedback (thumbs down) so that we wouldn't be able to have a negative opinion on a video (or know if others disliked a video). Of course, after a day or so, their announcement video got 37K dislikes and only 8.9K likes (as of me posting this):

 

The reason for removal is the thing that got me the most: That spammers would dislike a video. Well, what if spammers like a video instead? Anyways, this is one of those moments in YouTube's history where they are just total fail. Just total fail :worry:

 

He says at the end of the video: "Honestly, I think you are going to get used to it pretty quickly"

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