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animation With Dragon Ball Super existing, do you consider the End of Z canon?


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Title is self explanatory.

Dragon Ball Z ends with Goku and the reincarnated Buu, now named Uub leaving to go train. Shows things like everyone older, Goten and Trunks are now teenagers, Gohan now has a family of his own, married with Videl and has a daughter Pan.

But then we get to Super, while some things seem no different and nothing seems contradictory Gohan is recently married and has their daughter who's depicted as a baby(in end of Z she's at least 3). However where things get weird is the depiction of other characters who don't look different despite a big time jump. Goten and Trunks are still teenagers, however they still look like kids, adults still look relatively the same despite some changes(like Krillin's hair), some adults actually look younger(Bulma, basically confirmed in Broly), there's also the introduction to Gods of Destruction, new transformations of Goku and Vegeta,  Super Dragon Balls, Broly, the return of Future Trunks and Frieza, and the existence of the multiverse. Now while everything in end of Z still seems plausible, a lot of events in Super seem to trivialize it. But then there's the new "Super Hero" movie we now have

Spoiler

A much older Pan than what was seen in End of Z as well as an older Goten and Trunks, Vegeta and Goku training with Broly, new forms for both Gohan and Piccolo, and no Uub in sight

With all of this, do you still think DBZ's ending is even canon at this point?

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I do believe that Dragon Ball Super has already retconned a few things, having read all of the manga. I'm not a crazy hardcore fan, haven't seen the movies, but even so, I wouldn't put overwriting stuff from Z's ending past them. 

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There's a timeline retcon. At the end of Z, Bulma says it's been 5 years since she last saw Goku. And according to the official timeline, 5 years before the end of Z would mean the same year Frieza returned. Which itself happened a couple years before the ongoing Granolah arc in the manga.

So, perhaps most of the end of Z is canon. And they'll redo it so that the little details are all in line with Super. 

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