How do you see Celestia's rule of Equestria?

[Jammo 986]

Just curious of how people see her leadership style.

She's always been a polarizing leader (moreso with fans than the ponies)

I think it's a mix of few of these. I allowed multiple choice because I'm sure these may overlap for some.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Jammo

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

I think she was elected, but I can't help but wonder, did her being an alicorn help her in the polls.

[pactor 29]

I always imagined celestia as a raging tyrant. Controlling all free will and speach. Why else would twilight always be so nervous when she comes into town.

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

its a mix between monarchy and seeing her as a deity. she was probably given the role of ruler of equestria from her father/mother, and the ponies of all cities treat her like royalty (besides, she has ROYAL guards) and also some idolize her as a goddess.

[MallaJong1 202]

Absolutely tyrannical. She is an authoritarian dictator that needs to be stopped. Her reign has gone on for far too long. There is no room for democracy in her power-corrupt mind, and she plans to continue dealing out horrifying punishments, such as turning others to stone and banishing siblings to the barren moon for 1000 years. Celestia must go down. WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME IN THE GREAT EQUESTRIAN REBELLION?! Celestia the Terrible must be stopped!

[Tiina Brown 67]

Elec ... It is obvious she wansn't elected!

None of the options in the poll works, because it is obviously a mix of some of them:

The rule itself seems to very much be Monarchy-styled, but she and Luna expressively took the rule from Discord once, so there are no lineage to talk about.

There are obviously Nobles, but it is also obvious that the system isn't feudal, since the workers arent't hevily used and taxed as they are in feudal systems.

Since the base needs seems to be cared for, the system obviously isn't capitalistic, however, it isn't really communistic either.

It rather seems to be a mix between communistic and liberal, or in that area where those two definitons meet.

 

One could say that Celestia's rule is similar to a teocracy, however, Celestia Herself is the "higher power".

It is also obvious that she doesn't do like in other teocracies, since she cares more about helping people learn on their own, than on forcing her opinions in others.

She also cares nothing about any personal cult she might have ... except perhaps giving them servant-jobs in Canterlot, but that is just me extrapolating and guessing.

[OptimisticNeighsayer 478]

I think the best way to describe her is "somehow gained power through sheer force but maintained legitimacy through time through benevolence, which is why nopony cares (or really knows, for that matter) about how". What makes everypony believe that Celestia was elected? Are we too used to liberal democracy that we cannot accept that it may not work for all types of sapient creatures?

 

Since the base needs seems to be cared for, the system obviously isn't capitalistic, however, it isn't really communistic either.

It rather seems to be a mix between communistic and liberal, or in that area where those two definitons meet.

 

A nation's economic system is not determined by the presence or absence of poverty. To me Equestria is, from what I've observed, runs mostly on a capitalist, market system.

 

I always imagined celestia as a raging tyrant. Controlling all free will and speach. Why else would twilight always be so nervous when she comes into town.

 

Because Twilight has an especially close relationship with the Princess as a personal mentor and understandably sees her as demanding perfection out of her (even though its implied more often than not that all of her standards are self-made). You've said nothing about other ponies.

[Tiina Brown 67]

I think the best way to describe her is "somehow gained power through sheer force but maintained legitimacy through time through benevolence, which is why nopony cares (or really knows, for that matter) about how". What makes everypony believe that Celestia was elected? Are we too used to liberal democracy that we cannot accept that it may not work for all types of sapient creatures?

 

A nation's economic system is not determined by the presence or absence of poverty. To me Equestria is, from what I've observed, runs mostly on a capitalist, market system.

 

In a capitalist system, everything has a prize, including healthcare.

Healthcare do not seem to cost anything in Equestria.

Market system, as in the original meanining of market system, i agree, but not on the capitalist definition.

We do seem to agree on the other things, though.

[Espionage 113]

Alright, Celestia is a benevolent monarch with absolute power (I don't see a parliament...). Considering her rule is marked with little poverty (at least in the cities we've seen) and no ponies suffering because of Celestia, she basically destroys the two problems with an absolute monarchy: The child taking over and being a total dick (Nero) and restriction of civil rights (Hitler).

 

However, I don't get why you put communist because it's pretty obvious that Equestria is a capitalist nation. For example, Applejack having a business mindset or Filthy Rich in general.

[Critical Hit 69]

I really don't get why everybody thinks of Celestia as a tyrant.

I mean, it's not like she wanted to banish Luna to the moon for 1000 years, she was forced to do it to protect her subjects.

[Tiina Brown 67]

Alright, Celestia is a benevolent monarch with absolute power (I don't see a parliament...). Considering her rule is marked with little poverty (at least in the cities we've seen) and no ponies suffering because of Celestia, she basically destroys the two problems with an absolute monarchy: The child taking over and being a total dick (Nero) and restriction of civil rights (Hitler).

 

However, I don't get why you put communist because it's pretty obvious that Equestria is a capitalist nation. For example, Applejack having a business mindset or Filthy Rich in general.

 

It isn't capitalist, because healthcare seems to be free.

That the actual marketplace deals in monetary bits is obvious, but people aren't forced into labour, but encouraged to find the work that suits them.

For instance, what do Fluttershy, Twilight, or even Rainbow Dash work with, then?

It rather implies that the base needs are cared for, possibly by communal sharing, and that only certain things really cost.

[Archangel 143]

I think a combination of Monarchy, Cult of Personality, and Tyrannical fascist, I believe that she came into power because she was an Alicorn, therefore Monarchy (Not sure what happened to font here...) She also seems to rule like a Tyrant. Hence the Tyrannical Fascist, she seems to stay in power by using Cult of Personality. Turning her supposed ability to control the sun into a tool to become a God. (Seriously, how do we KNOW she controls the sun?)

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Absolutely tyrannical. She is an authoritarian dictator that needs to be stopped. Her reign has gone on for far too long. There is no room for democracy in her power-corrupt mind, and she plans to continue dealing out horrifying punishments, such as turning others to stone and banishing siblings to the barren moon for 1000 years. Celestia must go down. WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME IN THE GREAT EQUESTRIAN REBELLION?! Celestia the Terrible must be stopped!

 

DOWN WITH THE SUN TYRANT! Was there ever any doubt about where I stood on this matter? Pony, please.

[NavelColt 22,880]

inb4...oopsie, too late, already Trollestia references </3

 

All fanbase nonsense aside, I believe it's the perfect monarchy. Royalty is mentioned about her all the time so i assume that has a role in her leadership, ergo why I say monarchy. Let's not forget she initially ruled as a co-ruler with Luna, it wasn't just her at the start. She only became the monarch because she had to banish her sister to Space Camp on the moon for a thousand years. So, I think she's just an ideal monarch leader.

[Alleviate 342]

I'm thinking it was originally her and Luna given royal status by their parents.When Luna rebelled and was sent to the MOOOOOON! Celestia began to take control of everything now that everything in Equestria was scared of her. When Luna returned, notice how she was quickly pushed away from the public - she was trying to rule them like they used to - with fair laws and freedom of speech. (She tried to get them to speak!) The damage of Celestia had been done though, thus causing them to be even more afeared of the Alicorn.

 

Eventually this gave all Alicorns instant royal status as they are immortal and very powerful.

 

Example: Cadence (Sorry!) Instantly appeared as Princess Cadence (Whatever her name actually was.)

Chrysalis (Kindof a dark alicorn - horn and wings) 'Queen' Chrysalis.

 

My points, done!

 

-Joe-

[Lightning Fluttershy 1,844]

Celestia is a "tyrannical Fascist" who needs to be stopped... JK I actually like her a lot. shes one of my favourite characters however that was such a funny option so i chose it!

[Nintendo 64 12]

She's a dictator. If she's been princess for 1,000 years, she must be a dictator... That's only my opinion, though.

[Espionage 113]

It isn't capitalist, because healthcare seems to be free.

That the actual marketplace deals in monetary bits is obvious, but people aren't forced into labour, but encouraged to find the work that suits them.

For instance, what do Fluttershy, Twilight, or even Rainbow Dash work with, then?

It rather implies that the base needs are cared for, possibly by communal sharing, and that only certain things really cost.

 

Well that is capitalism. It's a very social type of capitalism but just because Equestria has Universal Healthcare doesn't mean that they aren't capitalist. Many capitalist nations like Japan and Korea have universal healthcare.

 

But you can see a very capitalist market as seen in the assertive Fluttershy episode's beginning. For example, the cherry salesman who charges ridiculous amounts for a single cherry because Fluttershy offered up a demand for the last remaining cherry. In your examples of Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, and Twilight, it's simple.

 

Fluttershy probably sells chicken eggs and I assume she may grow her own food. Rainbow Dash, in the first episode, was part of the weather team, right? That's probably where she gets her money. And Twilight Sparkle is a librarian AND Princess Celestia's apprentice. The latter probably covers for all of her living costs.

[silvadel 1,393]

I went with cult of personality. I mean the history classes have her in it and she is older than the other ponies. Essentially if you are taught in school that beyond personally raising the sun, everything else Celestia has done throughout her long lifespan in a sanitized way -- you would be loathe to try to depose her. I do think she is tired though -- I think she is grooming Twilight as a replacement so she can retire someday.

[Azura 1,107]

It doesn't really bother me at all that Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, as long as she isn't molesting everypony it's fine.

[Fluttermena 1,223]

It doesn't really bother me at all that Celestia is the ruler of Equestria, as long as she isn't molesting everypony it's fine.

 

 

 

More seriously now, I think it's a combination of monarchy and personality cult, Alicorns are royalty among ponies, and since Celestia reigned for over a thousand years, ponies see her as a perfect being.

[Tiina Brown 67]

Well that is capitalism. It's a very social type of capitalism but just because Equestria has Universal Healthcare doesn't mean that they aren't capitalist. Many capitalist nations like Japan and Korea have universal healthcare.

 

But you can see a very capitalist market as seen in the assertive Fluttershy episode's beginning. For example, the cherry salesman who charges ridiculous amounts for a single cherry because Fluttershy offered up a demand for the last remaining cherry. In your examples of Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, and Twilight, it's simple.

 

Fluttershy probably sells chicken eggs and I assume she may grow her own food. Rainbow Dash, in the first episode, was part of the weather team, right? That's probably where she gets her money. And Twilight Sparkle is a librarian AND Princess Celestia's apprentice. The latter probably covers for all of her living costs.

 

I think you confuse capitalism with a liberal market ....

In capitalism, everything cost something, everything, or at least most things, including base needs, costs money/capital.

In Ponyville, trading services for the simpler things seems just as common.

..... But then, i think there may be no point in what i say, because, as with all ideologies, if one sees them from an idealistic view, one may essentially put anything into them, even though it isn't really correct.

To me, you are too liberal with what "Capitalism" means .... and you might think i'm wrong.

......

Hm, i've said my opinion, i need not say more.

[Coffeesaxophone 11]

Equestria is probably an absolute monarchy with Celestia being a sort of deity or god. As long as we have seen Equestria does not appear to have a parliamental institution. The economy seems to be based on open marked competition (Flim and Flam) on a capitalistic system. But there is a small chance on a theocracy because Celestia is treated like a god.

[Electrohoof 6]

I think its like absolute monarchy. But Celestia has great powers so shes an überpony wich makes her the leader.

 

Just like Coffeesaxophone wrote it.

[Snow Shadow 41]

Princess Celestia is a theocratic monarch. She is the higher power. She rules in a monarchical style. Her death is however, unlikely. We have seen a high level of free commerce, and only a possible hint at limited socialism.