Not_active 729 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 AIDS would like to have a word with you. Like heterosexual couples can't be afflicted by aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cstriker 737 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 The Bible flat-out says it's the rapists' fault, not the victims'! A.V. Typically people he say this have either heard third party from someone they believe to reputable or have never studied the entire Bible. It's difficult to argue with them too typically due to youth, entrenched views, and popular opinion. To Scrum, what you said on Rape couldn't be farther from the truth. Scrum...confusion comes from the passage you are attempting to use, let alone quote. "If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." Deuteronomy 22:23-24 "If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." This is the passage that these people THINK means its ok to rape. "She did not cry out for help." But the bible does not mean literally. When it says "She did not cry for help" it's refering to a woman who wanted to have sex, meaning she did not get raped but hapilly agreed. Had you read the next verse: Deut. 22:25-28 "But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. 26"But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. 27"When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her," This verse clearly delineates the line between adultury and rape. The first girl was willing, as in she committed adultry, the second was rape. Additionally, modern Christians have gone through their growth phase and even the Roman Catholic Church is starting reform again. Christians do not condone stoning nore rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Like heterosexual couples can't be afflicted by aids. AIDS can't affect heterosexual couples. AIDS comes from homosexuality. You see, two men having intercourse =/= a man and a woman having intercourse. Two men, an abomination to God. Two women, an abomination to God. One man, one woman, a blessed people. A favorite phrase of mine: It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipsAhoyMcCoy 125 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 I see all these posts and i see that the brony fandom is a wide array of all religions and beliefs which i love because if you dont surround yourself with people with different opinions youll never build your own up very strong. stick with what YOU believe not what someone else tells you its your decision nopony elses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cstriker 737 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 If it's evil or not, depends on what the word evil means to you. To an atheist like me, evil means things like rape, murder, opression, racism, environmental crimes and so on. Homosexuality, for example, is considered to be evil in christianity, even though it doesn't harm anybody. Just be aware that not everybody shares your beliefs. Sin is strong, Christ is stronger. Homosexuality is seen as a sin, but you need to understand first the direction an education christian is coming from. Listen to this to just understand where this is coming from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 18,960 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 (edited) AIDS can't affect heterosexual couples. AIDS comes from homosexuality. You see, two men having intercourse =/= a man and a woman having intercourse. Two men, an abomination to God. Two women, an abomination to God. One man, one woman, a blessed people. A favorite phrase of mine: It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve. Actually, AIDS affects both. Edited June 10, 2014 by A.V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipsAhoyMcCoy 125 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Sin is strong, Christ is stronger. Homosexuality is seen as a sin, but you need to understand first the direction an education christian is coming from. Listen to this to just understand where this is coming from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0 brohoofed for Sin is strong, Christ is stronger. BEST. EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,098 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 (edited) AIDS can't affect heterosexual couples. AIDS comes from homosexuality. You see, two men having intercourse =/= a man and a woman having intercourse. Two men, an abomination to God. Two women, an abomination to God. One man, one woman, a blessed people. A favorite phrase of mine: It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve. Please, do NOT say something as ignorant and insulting as that. AIDS affects all couples equally, and it doesn't have to involve consenting sex. No. Just no. Edited June 10, 2014 by PathfinderCS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cstriker 737 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 There's a lot of things that you can't do if you're christian then. anything before marriage, divorce, being assaulted as a woman, many more. so if any of that happens, you can't be a christian, by your logic. Unfortunately your logic is not correct. Your preposition states that you can't be a christian if you commit sin which is far from the truth. People are Christian because they are sinners, every one of them. Many people completely miss the point of Christs sacrifice. He died for all sins, as a sacrifice for everyone so they through him they are saved. To say you commit a sin therefore are NOT a christian is counter to the purpose of being a Christian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Fair enough, but it didn't COME from heterosexual couples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicHooves 2,705 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 (edited) I'm just going to throw this question out there and see who answers it. If someone is bisexual, are they going to hell? Edited June 10, 2014 by Emerald Starlight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cstriker 737 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Please, do NOT say something as ignorant and insulting as that. AIDS affects all couples equally, and it doesn't have to involve consenting sex. No. Just no. Path is right here Pinkie. Magic Johnson...oh boy...certainly not a homosexual as we all know. Theres my joke for now. Biologically however it doesn't spread through homosexual contact, but from the transfer of fluids such a blood, mucus, semen, other secretions from our bodies. Infected blood transfusions used to be a big scare until the Red Cross put screening on donors. The virus itself is not selective in who it effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 18,960 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Fair enough, but it didn't COME from heterosexual couples. That, I don't deny. I also heard rumors it came from monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipsAhoyMcCoy 125 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Fair enough, but it didn't COME from heterosexual couples. It did not i agree but it did not come from homosexuals either it came from a monkey in south africa and when hunters hunted it and came into contact with its blood is how humans got infected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 18,960 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 I'm just going to throw this question out there and see who answers it. If someone is bisexual, are they going to hell? If they repent via Jesus, then no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,098 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 That, I don't deny. I also heard rumors it came from monkeys. IIRC, it has been traced back to monkeys (or some form of orangatans) who transmitted it through biting of humans. I can't give full details on it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 AIDS came from a man whom had sex with a monkey and then another man. It then spread to other men through homosexual practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipsAhoyMcCoy 125 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 I'm just going to throw this question out there and see who answers it. If someone is bisexual, are they going to hell? If like A.V. said you repent and turn from the bisexual ways then no you wont go to hell AIDS came from a man whom had sex with a monkey and then another man. It then spread to other men through homosexual practices. False. A man was infected when he hunted a monkey with HIV and came in contact with the blood. After it slowly spread throughout the world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 18,960 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 AIDS came from a man whom had sex with a monkey I could've gone the rest of eternity without such mental imagery, thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 it's just what I've heard from my sources. I'm sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cstriker 737 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 I'm just going to throw this question out there and see who answers it. If someone is bisexual, are they going to hell? As a Christian I am going to say no. No you can be saved and still be bisexual. Here is why. First as I mentioned earlier, you can certainly be a sinner and be a christian. Christ loves the sinner, not the sin. As long as you accpet Christ and try to live by his standards you are saved, even if you sin. Caveat, this does not mean go around raping and pillaging but confess to being a christian (someone will say something I know it), but as he said on the sermon on the mount, that to inherit the kingdom of heaven you must be as innocent as a child. This essentially raised the standard of morallity ABOVE humanity and earthly gains/pleasure. It placed into a world of ideas instead of materialism. We can NEVER attain this stance, achieve his standard, but should strive for it. Again check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0 Ravi talks about pastors and saints that were homosexual and the challenges they faced (these ones did not touch children FYI ). Good question though. Everyone thinks that CHRIST SAID DO NOT SIN OR YOU BURN. He never said that, what he came to earth to do was first to establish the law, then to show the path for redemption, then to sacrifice himself for EVERYONE not matter race, creed, orientation, or favorite Pony! Christ was baller yo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 18,960 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 (edited) Speaking of Hell, never abruptly tell someone their suicidal relative/friend's there. Those priests in the intro to Bram Stoker's Dracula learned so the hard way: Okay, the vampire stuff's clearly a stretch, but you get the idea. Edited June 10, 2014 by A.V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_active 729 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 AIDS can't affect heterosexual couples. AIDS comes from homosexuality. You see, two men having intercourse =/= a man and a woman having intercourse. Two men, an abomination to God. Two women, an abomination to God. One man, one woman, a blessed people. Nice conspiracy theory. Do you have some proof based on scientific facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 Nice conspiracy theory. Do you have some proof based on scientific facts? The Bible. Religion and Science are inseperable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltoist 303 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 im pretty sure the great mogority are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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