LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Well if there's ever a place that you need to air out questions to it's here and I'm sure most of us would be open to a PM if you wanted to address somepony specifically. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART3MIS 23 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm a Christian. It's cool to find other believers here. Think of the possibilities... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm as out-of-the-loop as you are my friend. And while I am a believer, I'm afraid I hold a lack of knowledge, or interest, on any history in the bible. Yeah XD Times like this is when I'm thankful it's by grace we're saved and nothing more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Balance 7,664 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm a Christian. It's cool to find other believers here. Think of the possibilities... You too? That's great. Yeah XD Times like this is when I'm thankful it's by grace we're saved and nothing more Indeed my friend, indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm a Christian. It's cool to find other believers here. Think of the possibilities... Hello! It's so cool to see other Christian bronies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm as out-of-the-loop as you are my friend. And while I am a believer, I'm afraid I hold a lack of knowledge, or interest, on any history in the bible. I'm Catholic, so I don't read the Bible. I'm a Christian. It's cool to find other believers here. Think of the possibilities... What possibilities would those be? Not trying to sound cynical, just wondering what you're thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I'm Catholic, so I don't read the Bible. Lol XD Is it bad that I laughed? Nah, I should be fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Lol XD Is it bad that I laughed? Nah, I should be fine Well laugh it up, but there is more to that joke than it may seem from the outside. You see, Catholicism is not what one would refer to as a strictly Biblical practice. It's generally accepted that the Bible, while important, is not the ultimate and ineffable truth. The practitioners, me, have faith that the clergy read the text and are spiritual enough to read between the lines and pull the truly meaningful wisdom from it. The spirit of the Word rather than the strict letter. Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Well laugh it up, but there is more to that joke than it may seem from the outside. You see, Catholicism is not what one would refer to as a strictly Biblical practice. It's generally accepted that the Bible, while important, is not the ultimate and ineffable truth. The practitioners, me, have faith that the clergy read the text and are spiritual enough to read between the lines and pull the truly meaningful wisdom from it. The spirit of the Word rather than the strict letter. Does that make sense? I can see that So, you're saying that it's really the spirit of the Word that matters and not what's just there in black and white? If so, then I guess I would agree. I may have misunderstood though XD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 I can see that So, you're saying that it's really the spirit of the Word that matters and not what's just there in black and white? If so, then I guess I would agree. I may have misunderstood though XD Would I be wrong in guessing you thought my joke was referring to the Church's history of corruption and violence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Would I be wrong in guessing you thought my joke was referring to the Church's history of corruption and violence? Well, it was more the whole 'Catholic' thing. If you know Northern Irish history, you'd know that there are more than just jokes about Catholics and Protestants alike XD That's why I'm nondenom. I get to laugh at everyone that way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Well, it was more the whole 'Catholic' thing. If you know Northern Irish history, you'd know that there are more than just jokes about Catholics and Protestants alike XD That's why I'm nondenom. I get to laugh at everyone that way Ah, I see. I'm of Irish descent so yes, I get the joke. Strangely Catholicism here in the U.S. doesn't seem to be as much of an entity in the public eye, however appropriate to the circumstance or not, we typically get conflated with Protestantism. Anyway, I'd say even most Protestants would agree with me in that the Bible is not to be taken absolutely literally, at least not all of it. The truth of God and Jesus was how He lived and what He taught. He's long dead . . . twice now so we can't just ring Him up and ask so we must try and connect with Him by being ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 (edited) Ah, I see. I'm of Irish descent so yes, I get the joke. Strangely Catholicism here in the U.S. doesn't seem to be as much of an entity in the public eye, however appropriate to the circumstance or not, we typically get conflated with Protestantism. Anyway, I'd say even most Protestants would agree with me in that the Bible is not to be taken absolutely literally, at least not all of it. The truth of God and Jesus was how He lived and what He taught. He's long dead . . . twice now so we can't just ring Him up and ask so we must try and connect with Him by being ourselves. You'd probably be right about that.But, I've tried being myself. I found out that I'm a pretty sucky person Edited May 5, 2015 by LittleMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphys Hedge 671 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 1:16 Brotha! I am a Methodist Christian, though I don't go to church anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 You'd probably be right about that. But, I've tried being myself. I found out that I'm a pretty sucky person You shouldn't say such. Besides, anyway that can laugh at their own shortcomings rather than recoil in fear of them has a good heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 You shouldn't say such. Besides, anyway that can laugh at their own shortcomings rather than recoil in fear of them has a good heart. Yeah, I guess. I'm just being brutally honest with myself though. I recognise where God has gifted me and where I'm...not so gifted XD I guess I'm a bit hard on myself. But I usually end up being too hard on myself or just really proud. A middle ground is just hard to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Diamond 7,559 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Something that some of us actually appreciate as we learn better from myths than strict history. Agreed to an extent -- just so long as myth (that is, a meaning divorced from the historical narrative) isn't ported into the New Testament to skirt the challenges of the Gospel, like Christ's Resurrection from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Agreed to an extent -- just so long as myth isn't ported into the New Testament to skirt the challenges of the Gospel, like Christ's Resurrection from the dead. Well I wouldn't expect to. Why would you add things to the Bible in post? The New Testament is just as much a historical document as religious life teachings. Who's going to write "Jesus Christ vs. Hercules" and call it a gospel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Diamond 7,559 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Well I wouldn't expect to. Why would you add things to the Bible in post? The New Testament is just as much a historical document as religious life teachings. Who's going to write "Jesus Christ vs. Hercules" and call it a gospel? What I mean to say is it's been common practice since the 19th century to "mythologize" the life of Jesus, or suggest the facts of his documented life aren't as important as the lessons gleaned from the written accounts. For example, one might say the Resurrection is really a representation of the rise of faith in the disciples rather than an objective historical event. It's eisegesis (inserting interpretations into the text) masquerading as exegesis (interpreting from the text). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 What I mean to say is it's been common practice since the 19th century to "mythologize" the life of Jesus, or suggest the facts of his documented life aren't as important as the lessons gleaned from the written accounts. For example, one might say the Resurrection is really a representation of the rise of faith in the disciples rather than an objective historical event. It's eisegesis (inserting interpretations into the text) masquerading as exegesis (interpreting from the text). Ah I see. Yeah that's not what I meant at all. In fact one of the big reasons why I've concluded that I worship Jesus is not because of his God-like traits, but rather because of His human ones. Walking on water? It's cool and everything but I've seen that done in countless video games, books, and shows. The beatitudes though? Inspired and said by an actual person. In essence, Jesus didn't use miracles to prove His divinity, they were just advertisements for His sermons. So attempting to make Jesus into a post-modern superhero? I mean I wouldn't object to it as a lark, but it's not the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Diamond 7,559 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Ah I see. Yeah that's not what I meant at all. In fact one of the big reasons why I've concluded that I worship Jesus is not because of his God-like traits, but rather because of His human ones. Walking on water? It's cool and everything but I've seen that done in countless video games, books, and shows. The beatitudes though? Inspired and said by an actual person. In essence, Jesus didn't use miracles to prove His divinity, they were just advertisements for His sermons. So attempting to make Jesus into a post-modern superhero? I mean I wouldn't object to it as a lark, but it's not the point. Seeing as Jesus was and is both divine and human, it might be a distinction without a difference. I consider the miracles signs of God acting in history in the person and work of Jesus Christ. They're part of the whole package. All signs, though, indicate the nearness of the Kingdom of God. That's at the heart of Jesus's words and deeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Seeing as Jesus was and is both divine and human, it might be a distinction without a difference. I consider the miracles signs of God acting in history in the person and work of Jesus Christ. They're part of the whole package. All signs, though, indicate the nearness of the Kingdom of God. That's at the heart of Jesus's words and deeds. I understand that, I was just sharing my personal affirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Diamond 7,559 May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 I understand that, I was just sharing my personal affirmation. As was I. It's a beautiful thing that you find the seeds of faith in Christ's humanity. I was only adding on my own testimony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstars111 79 May 18, 2015 Share May 18, 2015 Hallo! I'm Jared. I'm rather new here, and I was directed to this thread. Out of curiosity, what would you say is the ratio of Christians to non-Christians on this forum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 18, 2015 Share May 18, 2015 Hallo! I'm Jared. I'm rather new here, and I was directed to this thread. Out of curiosity, what would you say is the ratio of Christians to non-Christians on this forum? I'm sorry to say it's something like 1:5 most of that one have posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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