JonasDarkmane 19,757 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 Does one have to be a strong believer or is it enough just to believe in God? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 Does one have to be a strong believer or is it enough just to believe in God? All it takes is to believe and accept that Jesus died, rose again and saved us from sin. It's not about how strong you are, it's about whether or not you have accepted that you're forgiven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonasDarkmane 19,757 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 All it takes is to believe and accept that Jesus died, rose again and saved us from sin. It's not about how strong you are, it's about whether or not you have accepted that you're forgiven .... I don't really know about that, we Icelanders are really crazy when it comes to Christianity that other Christians facehoof just looking at us :s. I don't know about this forgiveness, although I do believe in Jesus :T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Black Circle 1,585 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 Any sort of homophobia is wrong. The concept of homosexuality is wrong in of itself, but those people aren't wrong. Also, you have no idea what the stress is like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 (edited) .... I don't really know about that, we Icelanders are really crazy when it comes to Christianity that other Christians facehoof just looking at us :s. I don't know about this forgiveness, although I do believe in Jesus :T.Trust me, it can't be any worse than Northern Ireland's view on Christianity XDMay I ask, by 'not knowing about it' do you mean you are unfamiliar with the idea of Jesus' forgiveness or you don't believe in that aspect? Just in case I misunderstand what you're saying Edited May 19, 2015 by LittleMac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonasDarkmane 19,757 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 Trust me, it can't be any worse than Northern Ireland's view on Christianity XD May I ask, by 'not knowing about it' do you mean you are unfamiliar with the idea of Jesus' forgiveness or you don't believe in that aspect? Just in case I misunderstand what you're saying I am unfamiliar with it. I have learned something recently about it in my Icelandic class, but I was not paying attention since I don't believe religion belongs with language classes :T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 (edited) I am unfamiliar with it. I have learned something recently about it in my Icelandic class, but I was not paying attention since I don't believe religion belongs with language classes :T.Basically, Jesus is God's begotten son, which means He was and is God in human form. The reason He came to earth was because mankind had sinned. Because of sin, man can't have a relationship with God and so, we die.God had a choice. Either a ) have all of mankind be doomed to hell or b ) go to earth to die. Because Jesus chose to die, He took our sin from us. He suffered death for us so we can live. He did that not because of how good we are or that we were worth it but because He didn't want to see us suffer. If someone accepts forgiveness, that basically means they are saved. By accepting that Jesus paid the price for us, that means we are saved Sorry if I'm unclear. If you are interested, this is a link to a very good speaker on YouTube who is much better at explaining these things than I. I think you might enjoy some of what he says Edited May 19, 2015 by LittleMac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 19, 2015 Share May 19, 2015 (edited) .... I don't really know about that, we Icelanders are really crazy when it comes to Christianity that other Christians facehoof just looking at us :s. I don't know about this forgiveness, although I do believe in Jesus :T.Forgiveness of sins is the CENTRAL message of Jesus' teachings though! It's His whole reason for coming to Earth in the first place. EDIT: Mac put it better than I did. Edited May 19, 2015 by Steel Accord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles 2,511 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 All I'm gonna say is this:Do not group all Christians into the same category.And... Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” ---Simply, as a contemporary Christian; and as a pacifistic Libertarian, all I want to say is:Love is the meaning of life.~ Miles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 All I'm gonna say is this: Do not group all Christians into the same category. And... --- Simply, as a contemporary Christian; and as a pacifistic Libertarian, all I want to say is: Love is the meaning of life. ~ Miles Well we are all grouped here but not because we're all the same, just so we can talk about this commonality we share. Please, don't feel that you need to make a statement and go, you can stay and chat with us about your faith in Jesus. No judgment here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles 2,511 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Well we are all grouped here but not because we're all the same, just so we can talk about this commonality we share. Please, don't feel that you need to make a statement and go, you can stay and chat with us about your faith in Jesus. No judgment here. 1. Oh I know. 2. I never said I was gonna leave. 3. Of course not --- Maybe this will be a kickstart of convo: This is something from my profile here: ~ Miles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 1. Oh I know. 2. I never said I was gonna leave. 3. Of course not --- Maybe this will be a kickstart of convo: This is something from my profile here: ~ Miles I love the beatitudes. Why does that first quote resonate with you so much that you put it on your personal profile? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles 2,511 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 I love the beatitudes. Why does that first quote resonate with you so much that you put it on your personal profile? My middle name is Micah. And furthermore: we are all shepherds. We shall spread the Love of God unto others, "shepherding" others to the Love that God can offer. --- As for the Matthew part I have: Because, no matter how down one may feel, no matter the hardships we go through; The Holy Spirit is within all of us, our Lord is with us, and we should look to Him always - in both good and bad times, we should thank the Lord for what he has given; we should repent for our wrongdoings; and we should pray for help when we need it. The Lord will answer our prayers. ~ Miles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 My middle name is Micah. And furthermore: we are all shepherds. We shall spread the Love of God unto others, "shepherding" others to the Love that God can offer. --- As for the Matthew part I have: Because, no matter how down one may feel, no matter the hardships we go through; The Holy Spirit is within all of us, our Lord is with us, and we should look to Him always - in both good and bad times, we should thank the Lord for what he has given; we should repent for our wrongdoings; and we should pray for help when we need it. The Lord will answer our prayers. ~ Miles Amen. . . . my middle name is William but my confirmation name is Noah. No one told me not to use Old Testament figures. We shouldn't recieve that sacrament so young. / 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonasDarkmane 19,757 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Basically, Jesus is God's begotten son, which means He was and is God in human form. The reason He came to earth was because mankind had sinned. Because of sin, man can't have a relationship with God and so, we die. God had a choice. Either a ) have all of mankind be doomed to hell or b ) go to earth to die. Because Jesus chose to die, He took our sin from us. He suffered death for us so we can live. He did that not because of how good we are or that we were worth it but because He didn't want to see us suffer. If someone accepts forgiveness, that basically means they are saved. By accepting that Jesus paid the price for us, that means we are saved Sorry if I'm unclear. If you are interested, this is a link to a very good speaker on YouTube who is much better at explaining these things than I. I think you might enjoy some of what he says Ah, I see. Yes, I believe I have heard something of that before. I remember something about him stopping god from destroying everything when he was being crucified, telling him that they who did this to him knew not what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac 3,082 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Ah, I see. Yes, I believe I have heard something of that before. I remember something about him stopping god from destroying everything when he was being crucified, telling him that they who did this to him knew not what they did. That's pretty much it. Except, God never WANTED to destroy the world. He made a choice between doing away with us all or coming as Jesus to die for us, and thankfully, He picked the latter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 (edited) Ah, I see. Yes, I believe I have heard something of that before. I remember something about him stopping god from destroying everything when he was being crucified, telling him that they who did this to him knew not what they did. Specifically, as you said, His words were "Lord, forgive them, they know not what they do." Jesus prayed for those who tortured and humiliated Him. It's one of those moments that reminds me why I worship this guy. He was truly selfless, truly all loving. That's the important part to take, not that God the Father would have smoted the Earth with a meteorite the size of Mars if Jesus hadn't said anything, but that He, the son of God, God in human form, allowed Himself to suffer on our behalf. When all the world hated Him, when His followers had abandoned, and betrayed Him, when He lay dying and in agony, He still had faith . . . in us. Edited May 20, 2015 by Steel Accord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,719 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Not a believer, but I like the ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I used to be a stranger 7,983 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 (edited) This post has been redacted by the author. Edited May 6, 2021 by Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Not a believer, but I like the ponies! If you don't mind my asking, why? Can we not? Every time someone answers that question it opens up a can of worms and it would be nice to have just one thread where "I believe in God" is the norm not the (hotly debated) exception. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Balance 7,664 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Can we not? Every time someone answers that question it opens up a can of worms and it would be nice to have just one thread where "I believe in God" is the norm not the (hotly debated) exception. Speaking of which; I am thoroughly impressed by how far we've come concerning this topic that there have been no heated debates of God's existence or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Speaking of which; I am thoroughly impressed by how far we've come concerning this topic that there have been no heated debates of God's existence or not. And I'd like to keep it that way. In fact, I wouldn't mind non-Christians but theists in general to join us if they wish, considering how utterly hated our lifestyle is by some and on this very forum I am heartbroken to say. Seriously, we're bronies, we should be better than that! Love and tolerance! (Only if it's my kind of love and tolerance, say some implicitly.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Balance 7,664 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 And I'd like to keep it that way. In fact, I wouldn't mind non-Christians but theists in general to join us if they wish, considering how utterly hated our lifestyle is by some and on this very forum I am heartbroken to say. Seriously, we're bronies, we should be better than that! Love and tolerance! (Only if it's my kind of love and tolerance, say some implicitly.) Indeed my friend; I find such irony laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudo Krenton 243 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 To be honest, I've only seen "love and tolerance" used on here as a facade than anything else... specifically when something isn't going one's way(which makes the other person... occasionally back off/feel guilty). And because of that, I don't even understand why so many people cling to that phrase, only to use it like a wild card, if you get what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,657 May 20, 2015 Share May 20, 2015 Indeed my friend; I find such irony laughable. I don't. I find it saddening. Keep in mind I'm a very humorless person as some might attest. To be honest, I've only seen "love and tolerance" used on here as a facade than anything else... specifically when something isn't going one's way(which makes the other person... occasionally back off/feel guilty). And because of that, I don't even understand why so many people cling to that phrase, only to use it like a wild card, if you get what I mean. I use it sincerely. The same way Jesus taught to love and tolerate people that others said were wretched or wicked, Jesus showed them warmth and compassion. Since becoming a brony I have accepted people of lifestyles and schools of thought I would have considered anathema before, based on "love and tolerance" and am a happier and wiser person for it. Forget doubt, it's not a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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